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Old Aug 30, 2012, 11:54 AM   #1
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Parallels 8 or VMWare 5

Heya!

I'm looking for a new virtual machine client, and have used Parallels since I started using a Mac. Now, I tried VMWare, and seem to like that too. What I'm wondering is if anyone has come across a comparison of the newest of each.

I can get Parallels for $45 and VMWare for $50.

What do I do? Does anyone have suggestions?

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Old Aug 30, 2012, 03:40 PM   #2
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Heya!

I'm looking for a new virtual machine client, and have used Parallels since I started using a Mac. Now, I tried VMWare, and seem to like that too. What I'm wondering is if anyone has come across a comparison of the newest of each.

I can get Parallels for $45 and VMWare for $50.

What do I do? Does anyone have suggestions?

Thanks,

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Parallels has screwed me enough times that I no longer care to give them money. Add to that they also have advertising that cannot be turned off in their application.

If I were to spend money on any of them, it would be VMWare.
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Old Aug 30, 2012, 03:42 PM   #3
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Parallels has screwed me enough times that I no longer care to give them money. Add to that they also have advertising that cannot be turned off in their application.

If I were to spend money on any of them, it would be VMWare.

Thanks for your input... but, can you tell me how Parallels has "screwed" you?

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Old Aug 30, 2012, 04:39 PM   #4
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Thanks for your input... but, can you tell me how Parallels has "screwed" you?
For me, I was an avid Parallels user from the day it was released. Around version 3 I ran into a problem where it wouldn't run anything. It would just start and then crash back to the desktop. I tried everything even a clean wipe of my machine and it still did the same thing. They told me that there was a new version coming out and I should upgrade to that because it will fix the problem. It came out, I upgraded, it didn't fix the problem. At that point, they told me they had no idea and refused me any further support.

I switched to VMWare and have been happy with it.

Today I considered Parallels 8 because of the good deal via NewEgg. But their website leads me to believe that they won't give a free upgrade to 7 because it is an OEM edition. So I tried emailing them, calling them and online chatting with them about this. In all cases I was refused customer support because I didn't actively have a license with them. So in other words, they didn't want to help a potential customer answer a question. So screw them, no desire to buy it now.
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Old Aug 30, 2012, 05:01 PM   #5
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Arstechnica has announced they will probably be doing a Parallels 8 vs Fusion 5 review. Similar to what they did last time. I'm personally hoping they will not do that because it was a really really bad review (and judging by the comments on that review I'm definitely not the only one). The only thing they did was test the main items in the release notes instead of things like how well some Windows games run, how well you can run Linux, etc. It wasn't a proper in-depth test, it was too simplistic and too shallow.

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Old Aug 30, 2012, 05:33 PM   #6
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Arstechnica has announced to will probably be doing a Parallels 8 vs Fusion 5 review...
Thanks for the heads-up! I'll keep my eyes open for this.

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Old Sep 7, 2012, 01:53 PM   #7
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For me, I was an avid Parallels user from the day it was released. Around version 3 I ran into a problem where it wouldn't run anything. It would just start and then crash back to the desktop. I tried everything even a clean wipe of my machine and it still did the same thing. They told me that there was a new version coming out and I should upgrade to that because it will fix the problem. It came out, I upgraded, it didn't fix the problem. At that point, they told me they had no idea and refused me any further support.

I switched to VMWare and have been happy with it.

Today I considered Parallels 8 because of the good deal via NewEgg. But their website leads me to believe that they won't give a free upgrade to 7 because it is an OEM edition. So I tried emailing them, calling them and online chatting with them about this. In all cases I was refused customer support because I didn't actively have a license with them. So in other words, they didn't want to help a potential customer answer a question. So screw them, no desire to buy it now.
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Old Sep 14, 2012, 10:30 PM   #8
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After 4 years of using Vmware it has my vote. It just keeps getting better.
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Old Sep 8, 2012, 12:55 AM   #9
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For me, I was an avid Parallels user from the day it was released. Around version 3 I ran into a problem where it wouldn't run anything. It would just start and then crash back to the desktop. I tried everything even a clean wipe of my machine and it still did the same thing. They told me that there was a new version coming out and I should upgrade to that because it will fix the problem. It came out, I upgraded, it didn't fix the problem. At that point, they told me they had no idea and refused me any further support.

I switched to VMWare and have been happy with it.

Today I considered Parallels 8 because of the good deal via NewEgg. But their website leads me to believe that they won't give a free upgrade to 7 because it is an OEM edition. So I tried emailing them, calling them and online chatting with them about this. In all cases I was refused customer support because I didn't actively have a license with them. So in other words, they didn't want to help a potential customer answer a question. So screw them, no desire to buy it now.
Hmm I feel for you. I had a different experience though. When I got my Parallels Desktop 5 license, it was pretty close to the release of Parallels Desktop 6 and it was about 1-2 weeks earlier than the eligibility for the free upgrade to version 6. I emailed them about it and they actually did provide me with a free upgrade. Maybe you can try emailing them again? Or reach them via their twitter account?

Anyways, I too recently got hold of both VMware Fusion 5 and Parallels Desktop 8 to see which was the better one from the usability standpoint, not from some synthetic benchmark. I wrote them up here at my blog (http://www.atpeaz.com/index.php/2012...arison-report/) to avoid repeating myself everywhere. It's a pretty long one on the features that one would find useful, but in summary:-

- Performance is pretty decent on both VMware Fusion and Parallels Desktop 8. But startup time, suspending and resuming is still faster on Parallels.
- Parallels handled Windows 8 much better than Fusion
- If Win 7 is your target host, Parallels Desktop 7 and VMware Fusion 4 are good enough.
- If Win 8 is what you wanna run, Parallels Desktop 8 is the way to go.
- If Linux is your thing, VMware has better supportability for all the different distributions out there. Also, its likely you'd also want to meddle with the advanced (virtual) networking settings with VMware Fusion.
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Old Sep 8, 2012, 12:11 PM   #10
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- If Win 7 is your target host, Parallels Desktop 7 and VMware Fusion 4 are good enough.
- If Win 8 is what you wanna run, Parallels Desktop 8 is the way to go.
Would P8 be faster than P7 on Win7? 'Which is good enuf'
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Old Aug 31, 2012, 06:10 AM   #11
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Thanks for your input... but, can you tell me how Parallels has "screwed" you?
I just wrote this in another forum.

I ran Parallels 6 for a while, after having switched from Fusion. Through Parallel's in-program advertising, I received a promotion to upgrade to Parallels 7 for $40. The promotion ended on June 25th. First time, I ignored it because I didn't need to upgrade. Second time, I thought, eh, why not and upgraded. This was two weeks before the end of the promotion.

Cost to upgrade to Parallels 8 for Parallels 6/7 users? $50.

Cost to upgrade to Parallels 8 for people who upgraded to it or bought after June 25? $0

Cost for me because to go from 6 -> 8 because they offered me a "special promotion" for (then) current loyal customers? $90.

It would be different had I needed it for a new machine and bought it in a bad bit of timing. Instead, they used their in-program advertising mechanism to actively squeeze me right before an upgrade cycle. To me, this isn't about the money (I buy a lot of software annually) so much as Parallels' business practices and attitude towards them.

I'll read the comparison reviews if they come soon and if Fusion and Parallels are even remotely in the same league, I am going with Fusion 5 over Parallels 8.
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Old Aug 31, 2012, 07:54 AM   #12
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I usually upgrade to Parallels in the first month of it coming out. Never been "screwed" by Parallels. I have had every version of Parallels and tried VMWare 3 and 4. The Network Editor for VMWare got my attention only because I would like to create custom virtual networks for testing. I only picked Parallels a long time ago because that company seems to focus on Macs where VMWare is covers more of an Enterprise solution and Macs is not their focus. I would recommend Parallels 8 over VMWare 5 if you are a home user.
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Old Aug 31, 2012, 04:09 PM   #13
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I've used both for years.

I have recently favored Parallels because I was able to find answers to support questions more easily on their web site. I have tended to use it a lot with XP and old serial devices and whatnot, and for some reason they just had more advice on that than VMWare. But otherwise they're both great ripping programs.

Just wish I could run SL on one of them...still have no idea why Apple doesn’t allow that considering how relatively lax they are with OS licensing.
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Me too. Parallels runs seemlessly and integrates windows 7 well, near flawlessly
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I am running VM and have no issues. Great product and the VM brand is what you find big companies and data centers running on. So that was a selling point for me. If I go from 4 to 5, I'm not sure as I only need the Windows machine for SQL Server classes and some Excel development.
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I'm running P version 8 and I love it. I've tried both products over the years and was never happy with either one. But I have found nothing to complain about with this new version of P. I'm writing this in IE 10 under Windows 8 in coherence mode right now.
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No one has mention the convinience of the iPad App on Parallels 6/7/8
this is the feature I like most on Parallels. I would like to see VMWare to do the same.
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I am wondering which has better performance for running off bootcamp partition to play games(I hate restarting). Mostly I play older games (pre-2005).


Also is it faster or slower to run off bootacamp partition that to do that usual IN parallels/VM install?


My Machine is macbook 2.0GHz , 6GB ram, GeForce 9400m.
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I run Fusion for Win 7 only because of Photoshop.

Think Parallels' upgrade policies are bad? Try going from Photoshop on PC to Mac: $600, no exceptions.

Screw Adobe. $50 bucks for Fusion plus $99 for Win 7 was a lot cheaper.

I'm very happy with Fusion, but barely use, or even know about, it's many features.
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I am wondering which has better performance for running off bootcamp partition to play games(I hate restarting). Mostly I play older games (pre-2005).


Also is it faster or slower to run off bootacamp partition that to do that usual IN parallels/VM install?


My Machine is macbook 2.0GHz , 6GB ram, GeForce 9400m.
It's Slower. You'll get better results installing your OS in a VM than running from BootCamp. I tried in a faster in a more recent iMac and it shows. It's also buggier - the worst part.
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No one has mention the convinience of the iPad App on Parallels 6/7/8
this is the feature I like most on Parallels. I would like to see VMWare to do the same.
How stable is the iPad App for Parallels?

I noticed that VMWare has one... does anyone know about this?

Also, thanks for everyone answering me. It looks like Parallels is the most popular thus far...

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How stable is the iPad App for Parallels?

I noticed that VMWare has one... does anyone know about this?

Also, thanks for everyone answering me. It looks like Parallels is the most popular thus far...

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Very stable, very happy with the performance of the iPad App.

The VMWare View application does not work on Fusion, it only works on the VMWare enterprise products.
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For me, I was an avid Parallels user from the day it was released. Around version 3 I ran into a problem where it wouldn't run anything. It would just start and then crash back to the desktop. I tried everything even a clean wipe of my machine and it still did the same thing. They told me that there was a new version coming out and I should upgrade to that because it will fix the problem. It came out, I upgraded, it didn't fix the problem. At that point, they told me they had no idea and refused me any further support.

I switched to VMWare and have been happy with it.

Today I considered Parallels 8 because of the good deal via NewEgg. But their website leads me to believe that they won't give a free upgrade to 7 because it is an OEM edition. So I tried emailing them, calling them and online chatting with them about this. In all cases I was refused customer support because I didn't actively have a license with them. So in other words, they didn't want to help a potential customer answer a question. So screw them, no desire to buy it now.
It was free. I am using version 8 from version 7 that I bought from newegg 2 days ago.
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It was free. I am using version 8 from version 7 that I bought from newegg 2 days ago.
Yup I got it for free when I bought my Parallel 7 back in Aug 3 from Amazon. And I notice that Parallel 8 is snappier, not as memory hog as Parallel 7 and everything just works.

The last time I used VM Ware, when I got VM ware 3. Which turn me off because of its performance. But I heard version 4 and 5 is way much better.

But I will stick with Parallel right now, until the next update... until my Parallel does not work in the latest MAC OS integration.
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I can get Parallels for $45 and VMWare for $50.
At this point, I believe its personal preference. I like Vmware so I use that. From what I hear, if you buy parallels the app will subject you to advertisements in their app which is not cool at all.

Vmware typically has a reputation of being more stable, and parallels has a reputation of being a bit faster for games.
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