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View Poll Results: Is your black iPhone 5 scuffed, chipped or scratched?
Flawless 1,155 46.18%
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 04:47 PM   #1
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iPhone 5 - black version scuffs (merged)

Do you think the black bezel, when scratched will show silver or is it black all the way through?
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 04:48 PM   #2
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buy a case

lol no idea hopefully it wont scratch easy
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:49 PM   #3
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buy a case

lol no idea hopefully it wont scratch easy
It always is funny how people brag about how thin a product is and then cover it with a case.

As for not scratching easy... based on Apples track record then you wont last an hour without a mystery scuff mark.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 10:44 AM   #4
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It always is funny how people brag about how thin a product is and then cover it with a case.

As for not scratching easy... based on Apples track record then you wont last an hour without a mystery scuff mark.
To be accurate, you mean "based on anodizing on consumer electronics".
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 12:58 PM   #5
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Scuff marks on a phone??? That wasn't part of the keynote - why the $@&* did I even order this thing?
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 01:52 AM   #6
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I'm going to use the black one for a couple of months if the scuffs are too extreme, i'm just gonna sell it and buy white one...
No problem at all!
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 03:00 AM   #7
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I'm going to use the black one for a couple of months if the scuffs are too extreme, i'm just gonna sell it and buy white one...
No problem at all!
good luck getting 700$ for a scratched up iPhone
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 06:37 AM   #8
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The 4 / 4S edge was superior.

iPhone 5 reminds me of an Android quality phone
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 06:56 AM   #9
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It always is funny how people brag about how thin a product is and then cover it with a case.

As for not scratching easy... based on Apples track record then you wont last an hour without a mystery scuff mark.
+1 Exactly
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 07:06 AM   #10
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Update on my scratched iPhone:

It's shipped already, should receive it within the next day or two. Pretty quick service.

It's a week 36, so hopefully it's better, than the week 35.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 04:57 PM   #11
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is it black all the way through?
No metal is black all the way through.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:05 PM   #12
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The video looks like it is dyed throughout.

I prefer the black this time round but it could look really naff if it gets covered in silver scratches.*

I don't want a case and always look after my phones but occasional bumps are inevitable.*
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:11 PM   #13
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Hmm. Maybe it doesn't look dyed all the way through after all.....
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:15 PM   #14
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No it will show silver. Anodizing does not go through metal its just a coating or a built up surface done by electrically charging particles. Taken with iphone 4. Hopefully my iphone 5 will take better macro .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodizing
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:23 PM   #15
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No it will show silver. Anodizing does not go through metal its just a coating or a built up surface done by electrically charging particles. Taken with iphone 4. Hopefully my iphone 5 will take better macro .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodizing Image
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 07:16 AM   #16
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No it will show silver. Anodizing does not go through metal its just a coating or a built up surface done by electrically charging particles. Taken with iphone 4. Hopefully my iphone 5 will take better macro .
Since it's not out yet that's really difficult to say. I think it's going to have a higher quality finish compared to iPods. MacBooks are anodized and don't seem to scratch easily. I have an anodized "Mil-Spec" flashlight that has yet to scratch and it's about eight years old.

I posted this before but here it is one more time. Straight from Apple's iPhone design webpage (side note half way down the page):

http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/

"Aluminum and Glass Body

The back of iPhone 5 is made of anodized 6000 series aluminum — the same material used in Apple notebooks — with inlays along the top and bottom made of ceramic glass (on the white and silver model) or pigmented glass (on the black and slate model)."

If it's the same quality and thickness of what they use on MacBooks I feel we have little to worry about. I really don't think they'll skimp on a flagship device. Black over silver (aluminum) is risky though, I will say that. If it does scratch through it will be very noticeable. For me it would add character, but I understand that others may not feel the same way.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:10 PM   #17
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No metal is black all the way through.
Anadizing does this if I'm not mistaken.

Should be similar to the iPods anodizing. Anybody have any pictures of ipods scratched?
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Old Sep 24, 2012, 09:18 AM   #18
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Anadizing does this if I'm not mistaken.

Should be similar to the iPods anodizing. Anybody have any pictures of ipods scratched?
You are mistaken. Anodizing only penetrates a few thousandths of an inch into the surface of the aluminum (typically .005" max). The iPod touch website says the color isn't painted on, and is actually part of the metal. To quote the site:

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It’s because they’re bonded right to the aluminum — not just painted on the surface. So you see saturated color that still lets the luster of the metal shine through.
This means that some thickness of the metal actually has the color you see, that it isn't just a layer of paint on top of the aluminum. You cannot anodize a piece of aluminum and introduce a color to its entire thickness unless that aluminum is very, very, very thin.

If you scratch it deeply enough you will go through the anodized/dyed layer, exposing raw aluminum.

Aluminum is softer than glass, so it is always, regardless of where it's used and by whom, more sucseptible to scratching. It is stronger and won't shatter when dropped, but will still scratch.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:32 PM   #19
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Anadizing does this if I'm not mistaken.

Should be similar to the iPods anodizing. Anybody have any pictures of ipods scratched?
Negative. Anodizing simply coats the surface, and the treatment Is anything but scratch resistant..
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 08:04 AM   #20
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No metal is black all the way through.
No it's not. It's anodized. If you scratch it deep enough the aluminum color will show through.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 11:01 AM   #21
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No metal is black all the way through.
No it's anodized, which accelerates the natural coating of Aluminium Oxide and makes it thicker, all Apple Products are anodized, like Macbooks and iMacs, which can then be dyed, like the New iPod touches, Nanos, and Shuffles and the slate color on the iPhone 5, Macbooks, iMacs and white iPhone 5 are not dyed, hence the Anodizing may still come off, but will not be easily noticeable, as a natural coating of Aluminium Oxide will occour, just not as thick. The main source of complaint is the diamond cut, polish edging (the slanted sections) which on the white model has no anodizing. If you are worried get the white model. Anodizing can peel off because it's just a bonded coating of Aluminium Oxide. However, On most Apple products which have not been dyed, when you take a layer of Aluminium oxide off, some remains of the same colour, eventually if you keep going it will become more shiny. I would suggest waiting a month until the products which were rushed in manufacturing, to produce as many units as possible, to meet demand have been sold.

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Old Sep 21, 2012, 11:05 AM   #22
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No it's anodized, which accelerates the natural coating of Aluminium Oxide and makes it thicker.
*Anodized and then dyed black. -- http://www.bluebuddhaboutique.com/blog/tag/anodizing/

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No metal is black all the way through.
Tell that to Dethklok.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 03:34 PM   #24
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No metal is black all the way through.
no its not cos i have a scratch on mine an you can see the silver.
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no metal is black all the way through.
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