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Old Oct 1, 2012, 03:43 PM   #1
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Apple and Virgin Mobile USA Planning to Launch iPhone 5, But Timeframe Unknown






While the three major U.S iPhone carriers launched the iPhone 5 on September 21 and prepaid carrier Cricket and a number of regional carriers followed suit on September 28, one U.S. brand has been curiously silent about its plans for the iPhone 5: Sprint's prepaid Virgin Mobile unit. Virgin launched the iPhone 4S and iPhone 4 in late June, offering prepaid plans for as low as $30 per month to customers willing to pay full retail price for their iPhones.

But while no official iPhone 5 announcement has been made, MacRumors has confirmed that Apple does indeed have Virgin-specific CDMA iPhone 5 units lined up and ready to go. The full suite of Virgin Mobile USA iPhone 5 model numbers includes:

Black
- MD250LL/A: 16 GB
- MD489LL/A: 32 GB
- MD574LL/A: 64 GB

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- MD355LL/A: 16 GB
- MD566LL/A: 32 GB
- MD591LL/A: 64 GB

A timeframe for an iPhone 5 launch on Virgin Mobile USA is currently unknown, and it is unclear why the carrier did not introduce the iPhone 5 last week alongside competitor Cricket. Among the sixteen official iPhone carriers in the United States, only Virgin Mobile and regional carrier Alaska Communications have yet to introduce the iPhone 5. When asked about Virgin Mobile's iPhone 5 plans last week, a representative simply told MacRumors that the carrier has "made no announcements about this".

Article Link: Apple and Virgin Mobile USA Planning to Launch iPhone 5, But Timeframe Unknown
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Old Oct 1, 2012, 03:45 PM   #2
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What about T-Mobile?
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great news. I can't bring myself to signing a contract with the us bloodsuckers.
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great news. I can't bring myself to signing a contract with the us bloodsuckers.
I'm really curious to see how good their service is. Do you have any idea?
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I'm really curious to see how good their service is. Do you have any idea?
I think it's based on Sprint's network. If I'm right, that's not good, but the price is awesome.
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If you assume most iPhone users pay $75/month, a $30 plan would save them $45/month. That means the initial monetary outlay for the iPhone 5 would be made up in 14-18 months, depending on which model you buy. After that it's all money in the bank. You'd be a minimum of $270 ahead after two years.

Of course, this all assumes that the $30/month quote includes both voice and data. (Since iMessage came about, I don't think we need include texting in calculations anymore.)
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Yep! Hell, I could have submitted this rumor. When I got my iPhone swapped at the genius bar it wan an unactivated model. It didn't have a sim card in it so when I set it up it asked me the carrier. It gave me Verizon, Sprint, and Virgin Mobile as options. It gave me two warnings saying it will be locked to that carrier before letting me continue.
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What about T-Mobile?
Buy a GSM unlocked (when available) phone directly from Apple and take it to T-Mobile, they will provide you with a SIM.

You won't get LTE obviously, but some markets (including the San Francisco Bay Area) are getting 3G HSPA+ compatibility with the same frequency band that AT&T uses, so that you aren't stuck on Edge speeds.

In the long term, T-Mobile should start rolling out LTE sometime in 2013, but I wouldn't necessarily be counting on it.
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Buy a GSM unlocked (when available) phone directly from Apple and take it to T-Mobile, they will provide you with a SIM.

You won't get LTE obviously, but some markets (including the San Francisco Bay Area) are getting 3G HSPA+ compatibility with the same frequency band that AT&T uses, so that you aren't stuck on Edge speeds.

In the long term, T-Mobile should start rolling out LTE sometime in 2013, but I wouldn't necessarily be counting on it.
Why would I waste $650, when I could just buy a new iPhone 5 on contract for $200 and have my parents pay for the bill.
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Buy a GSM unlocked (when available) phone directly from Apple and take it to T-Mobile, they will provide you with a SIM.

You won't get LTE obviously, but some markets (including the San Francisco Bay Area) are getting 3G HSPA+ compatibility with the same frequency band that AT&T uses, so that you aren't stuck on Edge speeds.

In the long term, T-Mobile should start rolling out LTE sometime in 2013, but I wouldn't necessarily be counting on it.

Don't be stupid and DO NOT get T-Mobile either. A fool and his money is soon parted. Think about this for a minute. With T-Mobile you have to pay full price for the iPhone elsewhere and then T-Mobile will charge you $50 per month minimum for only 200MB - (yes that is far less than a 1GB).

If you want more, you'll have to pay $60, $70 a month - this is the same price you'll get from the other carriers and you won't have to pay full phone price and you will get faster speeds.

So to recap, T-Mobile will charge you the same as other carriers, you have to pay full price for your phone and you won't get faster speed. It just makes sense to pay $60/month get the phone for only $199 and experience faster LTE. Or choose T-Mobile and spend $650 for your phone plus $70 a month for the slower speed.

I looked on line today but T-Mobile has changed their bring your phone plan but it's still not competitive.

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I inquired about iphone 5 on Virgin a month or so ago and wound up talking to someone on another continent who was clueless.
The iPhone 5 has been available with Virgin Mobile since day 1 - in Australia and Canada.

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Unfortunately VM 3G speeds are nowhere near AT&T's 3G speeds. I've had iPhone 4 on AT&T for about a year before switching to VM (different phone). Highest speed I ever got on VM was ~1.2 Mbps (~0.5 Mbps avg) while I frequently got 5-7 Mbps on the iPhone with AT&T. However, $30 plan on VM is a good deal even if you have to pay full price for the phone especially if you frequently use wifi.
I have a blackberry on T-Mobile - it's faster if you use wifi but T-Mobile still charges you the same rate even though you are technically using Verizon Fios and not T-Mobile towers. Why would anyone want to go to T-Mobile???

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I used to be Sprint's biggest advocate on this board (check my older posts), we had an awsome first 10 months, but the past two months have been absolutely horrendous, and with the iPhone 5 launch I decided to break my contract and go prepaid with an iPhone 5 (and sell the 4s)
So, which carrier do you have as your prepaid iPhone 5 with?

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As a Virgin Mobile user for the past 16-17 months, I do. However, the iPhone 5 will probably be too absurdly priced on VM for me to bother.
You do know that even after the 2 year contract is up - you have already paid for your phone in full and the carrier has already made a killing on the higher subsidized price, you will still be paying for the phone (same high rate) as long as you use your phone.

In other words - long after you have paid for the phone, you will still be paying for the phone. But with VM $30 - you will not.
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Old Oct 2, 2012, 11:51 AM   #12
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Don't be stupid and DO NOT get T-Mobile either. A fool and his money is soon parted. Think about this for a minute. With T-Mobile you have to pay full price for the iPhone elsewhere and then T-Mobile will charge you $50 per month minimum for only 200MB - (yes that is far less than a 1GB).

If you want more, you'll have to pay $60, $70 a month - this is the same price you'll get from the other carriers and you won't have to pay full phone price and you will get faster speeds.

So to recap, T-Mobile will charge you the same as other carriers, you have to pay full price for your phone and you won't get faster speed. It just makes sense to pay $60/month get the phone for only $199 and experience faster LTE. Or choose T-Mobile and spend $650 for your phone plus $70 a month for the slower speed.

I looked on line today but T-Mobile has changed their bring your phone plan but it's still not competitive.
Very true except you can get a $30 prepaid "Walmart" plan that gives you 100 min/unlimited text/unlimited data (5GB throttled). However, you won't get 3/4G on the iPhone in most places.
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Don't be stupid and DO NOT get T-Mobile either. A fool and his money is soon parted. Think about this for a minute. With T-Mobile you have to pay full price for the iPhone elsewhere and then T-Mobile will charge you $50 per month minimum for only 200MB - (yes that is far less than a 1GB). If you want more, you'll have to pay $60, $70 a month - this is the same price you'll get from the other carriers and you won't have to pay full phone price and you will get faster speeds.
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T-Mobile has a $30 prepaid plan that includes 150 anytime minutes, with unlimited data and text. I never need that many phone minutes, so that's perfect for me.
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T-Mobile has a $30 prepaid plan that includes 150 anytime minutes, with unlimited data and text. I never need that many phone minutes, so that's perfect for me.
Actually, it's 100 min. However, it's only $.10/min after 1st 100 so extra $5 for 50 min.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 08:42 AM   #15
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T-Mobile has a $30 prepaid plan that includes 150 anytime minutes, with unlimited data and text. I never need that many phone minutes, so that's perfect for me.
I bet you can't get this deal with an iPhone though.

I can get a T-Mobile Blackberry prepaid (gold rewards) $100 card that won't expire for a year. I believe it is only $1/day for internet access. But the problem is... the screen is way too small and the condensed format is far too ridiculous and primitive to use or to be of any benefit (now you know why berry is going down), and even if you don't use it everyday, the phone automatically check the internet everyday (I suppose to update itself or checks stuff out) - so you get charged for using the internet even when you didn't.

And never try arguing with the rep that you never used the net, they'll have the phone records of net access and the time and you can't prove it was the phone and not you.

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The price will probably drop if they are not selling or to clear inventory for the 5. Yep, I'm not paying full price for an obsolete phone.

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Thing that riles me is that the price on the iPhone 4/4S have not dropped at all on Virgin. I was waiting for the price drop to get a plan for my wife. But as it stands, the 4S has the same price as a same-spec 5. Wife doesn't need an iPhone 5, but I'm certainly not going to buy the older phone for the same price. Lack of a price drop also makes me consider staying with Sprint family plan we have now, where I can get a 4S for $99, much as I hate having the bloated bills - since family plan makes the cost difference smaller.


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If its on Sprint's slow data network, then its not worth it.
You basically have to compare if $30 is justified as a savings plan or being taking for a fool at $70/month is better. While it is true that the $70 is part payment for the iPhone over 2 years - after two years you will still be paying for the phone.

This is like the best scam in the world - keep charging for a product that the customer has already paid for. Note: Companies are not your friends. They are here to milk you for every penny they can get. Guess who is laughing all the way to the bank with their million dollar bonuses?
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This could be my next (and first) iPhone. But I don't think it's a secret why it's not available yet. Sprint - owners of Virgin in the U.S. - would rather sell you...well, Sprint service. As long as iPhones are supply-constrained, why would they offer their cheap option?

Very good to see they'll have more than just the 16GB version.
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If Sprint sucks for data speeds in the States why would anyone pick this phone up for Virgin? Virgin is constrained to the same horrible speeds that Sprint has right? This news seems like moot in my opinion.
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If Sprint sucks for data speeds in the States why would anyone pick this phone up for Virgin? Virgin is constrained to the same horrible speeds that Sprint has right? This news seems like moot in my opinion.
Sprint's CDMA network is no star, as it typically deliveres around 1mbps down, but NO company can beat the price. VM offers 300 minutes, and unlimited DATA and text for just $30 a month off contract. I think that vast majority of people would take a speed cut for what they are charging.

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I'm really curious to see how good their service is. Do you have any idea?
It is run off the Sprint Network. I live in the Chicago area, and the service is excellent. Data speeds over the 3G CDMA network aren't exactly the best, as I manage around 1mbps down, but it always works, which is important for me.

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I think it's based on Sprint's network. If I'm right, that's not good, but the price is awesome.
Yes, VM is a subsidiary of Sprint and as such they use the same network. I have been all across the country and Sprint through my VM phone worked fine. I drove From Chicago to Atlanta last year and me and the other occupants of the car used my phone for about 10 hours total. Not once did we ever find a dead spot...

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Sprint's CDMA network is no star, as it typically deliveres around 1mbps down, but NO company can beat the price. VM offers 300 minutes, and unlimited text AND UNLIMITEDDATA for just $30 a month off contract. I think that vast majority of people would take a speed cut for what they are charging. If you get the EVO 3D, with WiMAX support, you get around 10-15mbps down at the same price, meaning VM itself is a great company.
Sprint offers LTE in come areas. Chicago (where I am) being one of them.

http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/i...D=vanity:4GLTE

This list is somewhat out of date, but still promising.
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Sprint's CDMA network is no star, as it typically deliveres around 1mbps down, but NO company can beat the price. VM offers 300 minutes, and unlimited DATA and text for just $30 a month off contract. I think that vast majority of people would take a speed cut for what they are charging.
Their website says that they do throttle after 2.5 GB/month (3.5 GB/month if $15/month hotspot is purchased), but when your whole plan costs the same as just the data of competitors, it's worth considering if the coverage is up to snuff in your area.
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$25/month plan with unlimited data (throttled after 2.5 GB), 300 minutes voice, unlimited texts.

That leaves an awful lot of money left over for other things, compared the price of contract/subsidized plans (even with employee discounts, which I have for each of the "big 4" carriers).

The speeds could be faster, but they are just fine for the most common smartphone tasks.


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If Sprint sucks for data speeds in the States why would anyone pick this phone up for Virgin? Virgin is constrained to the same horrible speeds that Sprint has right? This news seems like moot in my opinion.
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This could be my next (and first) iPhone. But I don't think it's a secret why it's not available yet. Sprint - owners of Virgin in the U.S. - would rather sell you...well, Sprint service. As long as iPhones are supply-constrained, why would they offer their cheap option?

Very good to see they'll have more than just the 16GB version.
I don't see how more network providers can be anything but a good thing!
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Right ? What the hell is wrong with you apple add t mobile.
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I have a sprint iphone 5 would I be able to cancel my plan and move over to virgin? The fee that I'd have to pay would be like 300$ so fee +200$ that I payed would be like I payed full price for iPhone 5 and jus go to virgins 30$ a
Month? ...... Does anyone know if a sprint iphone 5 would work for virgin?
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I have a sprint iphone 5 would I be able to cancel my plan and move over to virgin? The fee that I'd have to pay would be like 300$ so fee +200$ that I payed would be like I payed full price for iPhone 5 and jus go to virgins 30$ a
Month? ...... Does anyone know if a sprint iphone 5 would work for virgin?
There going to do what's financially beneficial for them, not you.
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