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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:06 PM   #1
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Apple Introduces New 7.9-Inch iPad Mini Starting at $329




As rumored, Apple announced the new iPad mini at today's media event. The device features a 7.9-inch display with a resolution of 1024x768 pixels, measures just 7.2 millimeters thin and weighs 0.68 pounds.

Internally, the iPad Mini has a dual-core A5 processor, a Facetime HD camera on the front and a 5-megapixel camera on the rear, 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi connectivity, and 4G LTE cellular connectivity in some models. Despite its smaller size, the iPad mini still offers up to 10 hours of battery life.
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"iPad mini is every inch an iPad. With its gorgeous 7.9-inch display, iPad mini features the same number of pixels as the original iPad and iPad 2, so you can run more than 275,000 apps designed specifically for iPad," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. "iPad mini is as thin as a pencil and as light as a pad of paper, yet packs a fast A5 chip, FaceTime HD and 5 megapixel iSight cameras and ultrafast wireless-all while delivering up to 10 hours of battery life."
With the same resolution as the iPad 2, all existing iPad apps that work on the older iPad 2 will work on the iPad mini without any need for developers to make modifications to their existing apps.

The iPad mini starts at $329 for the 16 GB Wi-Fi model, with the 32 GB Wi-Fi model priced at $429 and the 64 GB Wi-Fi model coming in at $529. The models with cellular capability cost an additional $130. All models are available in the same black/slate and white/silver color schemes seen on the iPhone 5.

Pre-orders for the iPad mini will start on Friday, October 26 with the Wi-Fi models shipping on November 2 and the cellular models starting to ship two weeks later.

Apple has also introduced new polyurethane iPad mini Smart Covers in six different colors, priced at $39 each. Apple also now has a full suite of Lightning adapters to support USB camera connections, SD cards and VGA or HDMI connectivity.

Article Link: Apple Introduces New 7.9-Inch iPad Mini Starting at $329
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:10 PM   #2
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iPhone 5 gets an A6 and this stays with the A5? I guess we already know something about what we can expect with the next iPad Mini update.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:32 PM   #3
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iPhone 5 gets an A6 and this stays with the A5? I guess we already know something about what we can expect with the next iPad Mini update.
Maybe because Apple does not have any A6 to spare?
Cant make enough iPhone 5's.

And the A5X was for the Retina, so useless for mini.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 03:48 PM   #4
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iPhone 5 gets an A6 and this stays with the A5? I guess we already know something about what we can expect with the next iPad Mini update.
iPhone 5 has a retina display, the iPad mini doesn't, for starters.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 07:53 PM   #5
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iPhone 5 gets an A6 and this stays with the A5? I guess we already know something about what we can expect with the next iPad Mini update.
Nothing to be confused about. Totally expected, since this is Apple. As you said, guess what will be in the next update... but could have been there already from the start.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:13 PM   #7
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No retina display and priced over $300 = no buy for me.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:15 PM   #8
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Lack of retina means this will probably be one of the shortest product life cycles in history - maybe as short as my iPad3
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:35 PM   #9
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Lack of retina means this will probably be one of the shortest product life cycles in history - maybe as short as my iPad3
Doubt it, as Mini will remain as a lower end version.
11 months at least.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:37 PM   #10
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:37 PM   #11
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I was in the market for a mini but the price point is a turnoff.

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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:38 PM   #12
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Don't mind that much that it doesn't have a retina display, but an A5 processor seriously? I would have expected at least a A5x processor. This really is a Ipod touch + iPad 2 fusion. I can't believe I sold my iPad 3rd generation for this. I think I'll go for the Nexus 7 for the next couple of months while waiting for the updated iPad mini next summer.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:36 PM   #13
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Lack of retina means this will probably be one of the shortest product life cycles in history - maybe as short as my iPad3
Good one mate! I was thinking just that.

I think I'm gonna hang on to my 3 too (no reason to upgrade) and see if the new size grows on me, if so, I'll go for the Retina version that will get released in... 4 months
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Lack of retina means this will probably be one of the shortest product life cycles in history - maybe as short as my iPad3
Apple couldn't make the iPad mini retina, it had to be 1024x768. Unlike Android, when Apple releases a new screen resolution for iOS app developer have to update their apps to support that new resolution. The two iPad (4:3) resolutions that Apple has made devs support are 1024x768 and 2048x1536. Apple is relying on the fact that the iPad mini will run current iPad apps, so the iPad mini had to be one of these two, developer don't want to have to rewrite their apps for some new resolution, 2048x1536 is just too high for a 7/8" tablet in terms of graphics power required and cost, so it had to be 1024x768. This meant the iPad mini could not be retina and many similar sized Android tablets are higher resolution.
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Apple couldn't make the iPad mini retina, it had to be 1024x768. Unlike Android, when Apple releases a new screen resolution for iOS app developer have to update their apps to support that new resolution. The two iPad (4:3) resolutions that Apple has made devs support are 1024x768 and 2048x1536. Apple is relying on the fact that the iPad mini will run current iPad apps, so the iPad mini had to be one of these two, developer don't want to have to rewrite their apps for some new resolution, 2048x1536 is just too high for a 7/8" tablet in terms of graphics power required and cost, so it had to be 1024x768. This meant the iPad mini could not be retina and many similar sized Android tablets are higher resolution.
Agreed. This point was clearly made during today's presentation. Needs to be able to run apps from earlier and larger device. Personally, I love my iPad "3" or "new" iPad, but it is just a bit to big to throw in my purse and take every day. So my iPad is my second computer at home. Use it mostly upstairs, iMac downstairs. I can do everything on it that I can do on my iMac. Love dictation which helps compensate for keyboarding on smaller devices. Watch all my cable channels live anywhere in the house. It really is a second computer, so getting the new mini, is just going to serve the purpose of a carry-along computer. I got 64GB on iPad and will get 64GB on mini with cellular. Don't have to worry about what I put on it. Time will tell. I see this as being an alternative for schools as well, for children, for e-text books. Also, with another device in the ecosystem, work done on one is in all. Can't beat that.

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Old Oct 24, 2012, 02:28 AM   #16
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Apple couldn't make the iPad mini retina, it had to be 1024x768. 2048x1536 is just too high for a 7/8" tablet in terms of graphics power required and cost, so it had to be 1024x768. This meant the iPad mini could not be retina and many similar sized Android tablets are higher resolution.
2048x1536 is exactly the same pixel density as an iPhone 4/5...
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Apple couldn't make the iPad mini retina, it had to be 1024x768. Unlike Android, when Apple releases a new screen resolution for iOS app developer have to update their apps to support that new resolution. The two iPad (4:3) resolutions that Apple has made devs support are 1024x768 and 2048x1536. Apple is relying on the fact that the iPad mini will run current iPad apps, so the iPad mini had to be one of these two, developer don't want to have to rewrite their apps for some new resolution, 2048x1536 is just too high for a 7/8" tablet in terms of graphics power required and cost, so it had to be 1024x768. This meant the iPad mini could not be retina and many similar sized Android tablets are higher resolution.
You are only partially correct. Apple certain could have made the iPad Mini Retina. There are definitely no technological barriers for them to do so. Saying that Apple "couldn't" is completely false and you will be witness to this fact next year when the Mini's next iteration has a Retina screen. We have seen this story play out time and time again. Apple's gen 1 devices are always lacking.

And developers will have to rewrite their apps at some point to accommodate this change in resolution. Apple will not worry about that. It's simple economics, write code for a new resolution or lose sales. Apple doesn't really care. If you don't write for a new resolution, another developer will and God knows there are enough of them. We see Natural Selection occurring daily in the App Store. The writing is on the wall now.

Now, I will agree with you that placing a RD in today's iPad Mini would cut into the Mini's profit margin. With today's technology, adding a RD would likely require higher graphics power as well as a better battery to power the device (or sacrifice battery life). These additions likely made the addition of RD prohibitive. But it could be done certainly, but at the cost of lower revenues. Nevertheless, to say that a RD "couldn't be done" is false.
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Looks like a great unit but I can see that price keeping sales down. I'm sure they'd be making a decent profit even at $249 (or somewhere inbetween like 279). Especially when the $199 kindle has higher resolution, it's weird to see Apple introduce a product with lower resolution and ppi than what's already available.
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This will be a very popular product for the holidays.

I think the price is a little high, but suspect the market will bear it.
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Comparing the new 32GB Nexus 7 to the 32GB Mini, the Nexus has a far faster CPU, a slightly better GPU, a standard USB port, a higher resolution screen and thus a far higher PPI, but yet costs over $180 less. Sure, the new iPad Mini will be a hit.... People will also surely love the new crApple maps app on iOS 6, which will work even better since the wi-fi mini will not a have a GPS, unlike the Nexus 7, and passbook will work great, especially with no NFC capabilities, again, unlike the Nexus 7. What a failure of a product Apple has excreted...

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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:19 PM   #22
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this is way too expensive for non retina
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Comparing the new 32GB Nexus 7 to the 32GB Mini, the Nexus has a far faster CPU, a slightly better GPU, a standard USB port, a higher resolution screen and thus far higher PPI, but yet costs over $180 less. Sure, the new iPad Mini will be a hit.... People will also surely love the new crapple maps app on iOS 6, which will work even better since the wi-fi mini will not a have a GPS, unlike the Nexus 7 and passbook will work great, especially with no NFC capabilities, again, unlike the Nexus 7. What a failure of a product Apple his excreted...
Buying a Nexus 7 would be pointless for me. It's not just about the hardware. It is that Apple has created an eco system that is damn near impossible to escape. If you have invested heavily in the Apple eco system this is a no brainer.

If you have flexibility then go with the Nexus or whatever else they are doing.
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Comparing the new 32GB Nexus 7 to the 32GB Mini, the Nexus has a far faster CPU, a slightly better GPU, a standard USB port, a higher resolution screen and thus a far higher PPI, but yet costs over $180 less. Sure, the new iPad Mini will be a hit.... People will also surely love the new crApple maps app on iOS 6, which will work even better since the wi-fi mini will not a have a GPS, unlike the Nexus 7, and passbook will work great, especially with no NFC capabilities, again, unlike the Nexus 7. What a failure of a product Apple has excreted...
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