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Old Nov 2, 2012, 09:52 AM   #1
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Apple Removes UK Website Statement Regarding Galaxy Tab Design, Publishes Newspaper Acknowledgement




Yesterday, we reported that Apple had been ordered a UK court to alter its published statement on its website acknowledging that the Samsung Galaxy Tab does not infringe upon the protected design of the iPad. The statement was required by an earlier court order, but Apple's version of the included additional content, playfully quoting statements from the judge's ruling saying that the Samsung Galaxy Tab was "not as cool" as the iPad and noting that it had won cases against Samsung in other jurisdictions.

The judges were clearly unhappy with Apple's version of the notice and ordered the company to alter it within 48 hours, while Apple argued that it would take up to two weeks to revise and post the notice. As noted by TechCrunch, Apple has already removed its version of the notice from its UK website, but has yet to publish a revised version satisfying the court's demands.

The Next Web also reports that the first of Apple's newspaper advertisements similarly required by the court has appeared in The Guardian today.
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In this morning's Guardian, Apple has taken out a small advertisement, including the same statement that it ran on its website, but minus the additional commentary that originally got the company into trouble. It also appears to have been printed in 14-pt Arial font, as required in the original ruling.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 09:54 AM   #2
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 09:56 AM   #4
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How long will it take the first fanboy to come up with some absurd pretend technical reason why Apple can't change the text in an hour? Poor apple, they think they can bend the reality of anyone who has ever published any text on the web, or edited a post. Or used a word processor. This is insane.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 09:57 AM   #5
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I tell you, you know the U.K courts are screwed when they require you to use Arial. Talk about having zero taste.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 09:59 AM   #6
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I'm no big fan of Apple on this one - but didn't public humiliation as a penalty go out the door some century or so ago.

If Apple did wrong - they pay up, if they didn't do wrong - they don't.
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Surprising by Apple to miss a space between "and" and "Wales", and to change kerning to fit that url in on one line
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 07:47 PM   #8
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Surprising by Apple to miss a space between "and" and "Wales", and to change kerning to fit that url in on one line
Steve Jobs wouldn't have allowed that...
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I'm no big fan of Apple on this one - but didn't public humiliation as a penalty go out the door some century or so ago.

If Apple did wrong - they pay up, if they didn't do wrong - they don't.
Completely agree.

What would stop a judge from telling Apple - in every 30 second commercial you air, the last 5 seconds must be an 'I'm sorry, Samsung' graphic with the Samsung logo 50% of the screen?

No matter what side you're on, what they're making Apple do is completely ludicrous. I can understand paying Samsung money - and Samsung can then do whatever they want with the money. Samsung themselves could air these ads, why force Apple to? So 1800s.

Apple should sue the judge now for 'forcing Apple to damage their reputation' or some such nonsense.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 10:09 AM   #10
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Apple should sue the judge now for 'forcing Apple to damage their reputation' or some such nonsense.
This the part that irks me. It seem lost on the judge that the public could misinterpret this as admission of "wrongdoing" on part of Apple. I'm surprised Apple's lawyers didn't bring this up.

Well, it too late now unless they appeal again. But given that Apple didn't appeal immediately probably means they aren't interested in doing so.
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Old Nov 2, 2012, 10:18 AM   #11
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Apple should sue the judge now for 'forcing Apple to damage their reputation' or some such nonsense.
That was the whole point of the judgement.
After Apple had already lost the deign case in the UK, they continued to call Samsung a copier.
In the court's eyes, this caused harm to Samsung's reputation.
So in return for Apple's continued slandering of Samsung's name, the court determined that no monetary judgement would undo the harm.
So they came up with this remedy instead.

Personally I don't think it's effective, but Apple should have done it as instructed and moved on.
Adding their own commentary simply pissed off the judge. Not something you want to make a habit of doing.
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Apple should sue the judge now for 'forcing Apple to damage their reputation' or some such nonsense.
And the argument to sue ALL 4 judges would be....

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If judges don't want their rulings quoted then perhaps they should leave out those parts. The ad was specified down to the font size; if the judge had wanted specific text and nothing else on the page, then he should have said so.
And they did so, have you read the ruling?
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I'm no big fan of Apple on this one - but didn't public humiliation as a penalty go out the door some century or so ago.

If Apple did wrong - they pay up, if they didn't do wrong - they don't.
They made a public statement that undermined the court's decision so the punishment fits the crime (another public statement).
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I tell you, you know the U.K courts are screwed when they require you to use Arial. Talk about having zero taste.
At least it wasn't......

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Such a shame...

Personally, I think that Apple has the right to publish the reason why Samsung didn't infringed Apples patent.
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At least it wasn't......

COMIC SANS
If I we're Tim Cook and they forced me to use Comic Sans I'd withdraw my products from the U.K. All common sense must then have been lost.
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If I was Apple, I would close the UK web and retail stores. The amount of jobs lost would piss off a lot of people and the government.
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At least it wasn't......

COMIC SANS
Why can't it be an OLD ENGLISH font - that's really hard to read. This is the UK afterall.

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So at what point can Apple sue the judge who keeps making Apple do these things? All of this extra press is now hurting Apple's image, the same reason Apple has to post this ridiculous documentation..
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I tell you, you know the U.K courts are screwed when they require you to use Arial. Talk about having zero taste.
Better than Comic Sans

(edit: Looks like someone beat me to it!)
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The Kangaroo Court. IMO. : 0 )
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How long will it take the first fanboy to come up with some absurd pretend technical reason why Apple can't change the text in an hour?
Because they don't have to 'hurry up and do it'.

Apple is clearly upset with the verdict and is dragging their feet. Of course they could do it in just a few minutes, but because they don't HAVE TO, they won't do it. This is their little LEGAL way of annoying the judge.

For example: You get a parking ticket for $15 which you don't deserve. You fight it in court. The judge won't have it. You have 30 days to pay the $15, so to get a little sense of victory, you wait until the 30th day and pay the fine in pennies.

Petty? Yes. Legal? Yes.
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Apple is clearly upset with the verdict and is dragging their feet. Of course they could do it in just a few minutes, but because they don't HAVE TO, they won't do it. This is their little LEGAL way of annoying the judge.
Actually, the judge asked the message to be put up between 24 and 48 hours, and if Apple can't comply, Tim Cook himself will have to provide a written affidavit of why exactly they can't.

You'd know if you read the previous article, it was all in there.

For your reference, from Ars Technica's coverage :

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Apple tried to argue that it would take 14 days to post an updated notice on its website, but the request was shot down. In fact, Judge Jacob made it clear that Apple's actions are beginning to make him testy.

"I would like to see the head of Apple make an affidavit setting out the technical difficulties which means Apple canít put this on" its site, Jacob said. "I just canít believe the instructions youíve been given. This is Apple. They cannot put something on their website?"
So at this point, they better comply.
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How long will it take the first fanboy to come up with some absurd pretend technical reason why Apple can't change the text in an hour?
Because PR would like to have time to craft it. Nothing wrong with demanding that.
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