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Old Nov 6, 2012, 10:42 AM   #1
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Fourth-Generation iPad Models Now 'In Stock' at Many Online Apple Stores




Following last Friday's launch of the fourth-generation iPad, Apple has apparently already come close to meeting demand for the new device. As noticed by 9to5Mac, Apple is now listing all Wi-Fi models of the new iPad as "in stock" in the company's U.S. online store.

The immediate availability appears to extend to a number of Apple's online stores around the world, including the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, and Singapore. Shipping estimates remain at 3-5 business days in most of Apple's other online stores for countries where the device has launched, but it is not unusual for changes in Apple's shipping estimates to roll out to different regions on slightly different schedules.

The iPad mini remains in short supply, with Apple continuing to quote shipping estimates of two weeks for new orders of Wi-Fi models. Cellular-capable models appear to remain on track, with Apple quoting "Mid November" in the United States and "Late November" in other countries.

Article Link: Fourth-Generation iPad Models Now 'In Stock' at Many Online Apple Stores
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 10:45 AM   #2
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I think people who want iPads mostly have them and are satisfied with their current models. It may foreshadow a slower upgrade cycle on iPads versus iPhones.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 10:45 AM   #3
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Can't wait to visit the Apple Store and see how much better it is than my 3rd generation.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 10:48 AM   #4
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I walked into the local Walmart last night (Markham) and they had several iPad 4's. I picked one up no problem. 498.00. Also note, I bought the Smart CASE, and it was 49.00 as opposed to 55.00 at Apple. Buying power of Wally World is strong my friends.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 10:50 AM   #5
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Thanksgiving is two weeks away

holiday sales needs to start kicking in high gear in two weeks.

I bet iPad mini will be in stock in two weeks as well.
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It seems like this incremental upgrade may be easier to build, which could help AAPL meet demand.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 11:01 AM   #7
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It seems like this incremental upgrade may be easier to build, which could help AAPL meet demand.
That and demand for the 4th iPad is not as big as when the 3rd came out. People see it as an incremental upgrade (the new chip is quite a bit faster, so that is debatable)

Many people who wanted a retina iPad already got one, the lightning port is not much of a draw.

But it should be a good, steady seller for the holiday season.

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True but in a few months we will be closer to the iPad 5th gen. I think the next update will focus on size/weight and that is more important to me as a 3rd gen owner.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 11:05 AM   #8
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It seems like this incremental upgrade may be easier to build, which could help AAPL meet demand.
...or more likely, no one wants one because they already have a 2 or 3, and see no reason to upgrade?

Apple rushed this out too quick without substantial upgrades to define a purchase, consumers responded appropriately.

iPad 2 had a better form factor, iPad 3 had Retina, iPad 4 has new internals. One of these is not like the other when it comes to sales.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 10:57 AM   #9
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holiday sales needs to start kicking in high gear in two weeks.

I bet iPad mini will be in stock in two weeks as well.
Possibly they only "Nearly" sold out of them.
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Possibly they only "Nearly" sold out of them.
64GB still available. Lost opportunity is a lost sale.
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Can't wait to visit the Apple Store and see how much better it is than my 3rd generation.
Not that much actually, no noticeable changes in size/weight and the Games I tested did not have noticeable increases in frame rates. Interesting considering that the GPU is so much better. Actually, the iPad Mini ran "MetalStorm" at a much higher framerate then the iPad 4th gen (though it looked worse due to resolution).

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It seems like this incremental upgrade may be easier to build, which could help AAPL meet demand.
They pretty much only changed the logic board/port. So yeah, 90% of the parts are the same.
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Can't wait to visit the Apple Store and see how much better it is than my 3rd generation.
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Not that much actually, no noticeable changes in size/weight and the Games I tested did not have noticeable increases in frame rates. Interesting considering that the GPU is so much better. Actually, the iPad Mini ran "MetalStorm" at a much higher framerate then the iPad 4th gen (though it looked worse due to resolution).
In a few months you may notice the difference more, as games take advantage of the new chip.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 10:59 AM   #13
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In a few months you may notice the difference more, as games take advantage of the new chip.
True but in a few months we will be closer to the iPad 5th gen. I think the next update will focus on size/weight and that is more important to me as a 3rd gen owner.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 02:09 PM   #14
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True but in a few months we will be closer to the iPad 5th gen. I think the next update will focus on size/weight and that is more important to me as a 3rd gen owner.
That depends on when the 5th generation model comes out. If it comes out in March / April, then i agree it will focus solely on size / weight. If it comes out in the Fall then I think it will focus on more than that. By this time next year the Rogue GPU will be available and there's a good chance Apple may use that GPU. At the same clock rate, the Rogue GPU is supposedly around 2X faster (if not more) at the same clock speed, than the current iPad GPU.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 01:55 AM   #15
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True but in a few months we will be closer to the iPad 5th gen. I think the next update will focus on size/weight and that is more important to me as a 3rd gen owner.
In a few months? I believe this time is going to be more like a year. I wouldn't hold my breath for a march new launch.
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In a few months you may notice the difference more, as games take advantage of the new chip.
Nope. They said this for the iPad 2 to iPad 3 and a few apps use the power.
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Nope. They said this for the iPad 2 to iPad 3 and a few apps use the power.
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In a few months you may notice the difference more, as games take advantage of the new chip.
Exactly, btw I love your avatar picture, MST2K was the best
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Not that much actually, no noticeable changes in size/weight
If they can drop the weight, the larger iPad will fly off the shelf.
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It is Magical!

It is truly magical how every single new product Apple releases goes out of stock very shortly after going on sale, creating a frenzy for people who want to be lucky enough to acquire one - only to be followed by adequate stock being available very shortly thereafter.

But one thing we can be certain of - this is NOT a marketing ploy by Apple to inflate demand.




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It is truly magical how every single new product Apple releases goes out of stock very shortly after going on sale, creating a frenzy for people who want to be lucky enough to acquire one - only to be followed by adequate stock being available very shortly thereafter.

But one thing we can be certain of - this is NOT a marketing ploy by Apple to inflate demand.




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I find it really incredible that there are a fair number of people on these forums that actually believe nonsense like this. No successful company is going to deliberately create a shortage of their products right before the holiday season to create a frenzy for it or long lines to get into the press, period.

People like this seem to be in the same camp as people who actually believe that Apple only sells millions of iDevices because the gullible hypnotized "sheep" will buy anything with an Apple logo on it. Slap an Apple logo on a turd, and millions will buy it. It has nothing to do with the fact that Apple makes great products that people want.
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I find it really incredible that there are a fair number of people on these forums that actually believe nonsense like this. No successful company is going to deliberately create a shortage of their products right before the holiday season to create a frenzy for it or long lines to get into the press, period.

People like this seem to be in the same camp as people who actually believe that Apple only sells millions of iDevices because the gullible hypnotized "sheep" will buy anything with an Apple logo on it. Slap an Apple logo on a turd, and millions will buy it. It has nothing to do with the fact that Apple makes great products that people want.
I am with you. The number of haters and trolls is probably even higher than the number of dedicated fanboys on this site at this point. I suppose it's out of the question that apple can't keep up with demand at first and then supply catches up after the initial rush. Crazy talk, right?? Has to be a plot of some kind. Good grief.

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"band-aid approach" Hahaha, nice.

You know, while it was a major reason for me to upgrade, I totally dig on the lightening connector - not just the current and future technical potential, but the ease of use. The old 30 pin combined with the connector being on a curved surface was my least favorite part of the iPad 3 design.

We will both be moving to iPhone 5 in the very near future, so we'll pretty much be all Lightening at that point (we'll probably have a lingering iPad 1 just for testing...)
I agree, it's a big draw for me too, but probably not quite enough of one. It's a pain to need different cables now. But I don't know if that justifies the upgrade from my trusty iPad 2 with its excellent battery life, thin profile, and faster charge time.
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I find it really incredible that there are a fair number of people on these forums that actually believe nonsense like this. No successful company is going to deliberately create a shortage of their products right before the holiday season to create a frenzy for it or long lines to get into the press, period.

People like this seem to be in the same camp as people who actually believe that Apple only sells millions of iDevices because the gullible hypnotized "sheep" will buy anything with an Apple logo on it. Slap an Apple logo on a turd, and millions will buy it. It has nothing to do with the fact that Apple makes great products that people want.
Maybe, but I will say that more of the "average" users out these days will buy a new Apple product over another similar product. Apple is the "cool" thing these days (pun on English court ruling intended) and I know a ton of people (girls mainly lol) who have bought every iPhone even out of contract, just bc they wanted the Apple product. They didn't even know or use the new features lol.
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It is truly magical how every single new product Apple releases goes out of stock very shortly after going on sale, creating a frenzy for people who want to be lucky enough to acquire one - only to be followed by adequate stock being available very shortly thereafter.

But one thing we can be certain of - this is NOT a marketing ploy by Apple to inflate demand.




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It isn't a marketing ploy, it is called physics. I'm going to introduce you to a few concepts that you might not be familiar with so see if you can follow along. Making new products takes "time". You don't just place an order for millions of complicated devices and get them constructed over a weekend. Also you can only start making the new product after you have fully designed and tested the prototypes. So "time" before completing the design and testing can't be used for making the product.
When a new product is introduced, customers have not yet acquired it. So there is this thing called "demand", which in the case of Apple often peaks right at the introduction because it is at that point that the highest number of customers who do not have the product exist. As the product is delivered to customers, demand is satisfied. So demand decreases as the products are delivered.
Also, while the product is being delivered Apple gets more "time". Apple uses this time to make new products.
Eventually equilibrium is reached as demand starts matching the time Apple has to have more of the product made.

The only way for Apple to have on hand enough product to satisfy the initial surge of demand is to hold off on announcing and selling the product. Apple could then get more time. Apple could have made iPad Minis for two months and secretly stockpiled them (with many invariably slipping out). But that would have just allowed Amazon, Google, and Microsoft more time to play in the mini tablet space without an Apple competitor. That would have been a terrible strategic decision.

There are only so many factories in China with so many workers that are capable of making these machines and all the various components. You also can't, at this point, just increase the number of factories devoted to a product for a couple of weeks. Configuring a factory (and training employees) to make a product like this takes time and money. The factory needs to stay devoted to the same product for a significant period of time to spread those costs out in an economic fashion.
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