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Old Nov 6, 2012, 05:58 PM   #1
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After Driving on sidewalk to Avoid School Bus, Woman must wear "Idiot" sign

I think this one we all can agree on and say, "stupid ******* idiot!"

Read, and shake your head in disgust.

Oh.. video is included of her doing it multiple times, plus her getting stopped by police.

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After Driving On Sidewalk To Pass School Bus, Woman Must Wear 'Idiot' Sign

by Mark Memmott
November 06, 2012 4:11 PM

"Justice has been served!" declares the man who helped police in Cleveland nab a woman who had been driving up on a sidewalk many mornings to get around a stopped school bus with children on board.

It's something 32-year-old Shena Hardin had done many times before, apparently, and for which a judge has now ordered her to wear a sign reading "Only an idiot would drive on the sidewalk to avoid the school bus."

Hardin will have to wear the sign "for an hour per day, next Tuesday and Wednesday morning" and stand near the scene of the crime, according to Fox8 Cleveland. She's also had her license suspended for 30 days and must pay a $250 fine.

She had been seen pulling her dangerous stunt several times this school year. The bus driver, who had tipped off police about what she was doing, used a camera phone to catch Hardin in the act and was recording as she got pulled over by officers.

Fox8's report, which includes video of the crime, is here.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 06:00 PM   #2
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Wow... humans at there finest
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 06:01 PM   #3
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Yup, what a ****ing idiot. Good lord...
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 06:33 PM   #4
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Yup, what a ****ing idiot. Good lord...
Just saw this a couple of minutes ago, and can't help but completely agree with you.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 06:36 PM   #5
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i remember when the video was posted and thought it was great that she finally got caught, this is an even better outcome.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 06:45 PM   #6
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Punishment fits the crime.
The fine on the other hand, could have been a little steeper.
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Old Nov 6, 2012, 07:11 PM   #7
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Driver deserved to be caught and fined, and have their license suspended. The sign part is just medieval. Harks back to the stockade and pillory.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 11:10 AM   #8
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Punishment fits the crime.
The fine on the other hand, could have been a little steeper.
Fitting? Hardly. It should be much more servere. She endangered school kids. Heck, if someone pulled that sort of stunt around my kid's bus, I'd take a wrecking bar and go Gordon Freeman on him.
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Just made the connection to the Scarlet Letter. I like that judge, they should have handled the Apple v. Samsung case
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 11:16 AM   #10
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Wow, she got off with a slap on the wrist for that stupid move? How about no license for a year and community service to earn it back, maybe as a crosswalk guard?
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 02:23 PM   #11
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This is insane. I've witnessed people passing a school bus but never driving on the sidewalk. It's funny how she thinks passing on the sidewalk makes it OK? Laws here in PA are similar to passing a school bus. The punishment she got is funny.

- 60 Day License Suspension
- 5 Points on your license
- $250 fine.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 11:27 AM   #12
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 12:06 PM   #13
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Oh good... the US justice system is now part of the entertainment industry.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 02:37 PM   #14
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Oh good... the US justice system is now part of the entertainment industry.
It gets better! Straight from the Dumb*** News of the Day:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=165044525

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'I Stole From A 9-Year-Old': Court-Ordered Shaming

by The Associated Press
November 13, 2012

A woman caught on camera driving on a sidewalk to pass a Cleveland school bus was ordered this week to hold a sign at the intersection reading, "Only an idiot would drive on the sidewalk to avoid a school bus." It was the latest example of creative, and sometimes controversial, sentences handed out by judges to publicly shame offenders. Some other examples from around the country:

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UTAH: PONYTAIL CUT OFF

The mother of a 13-year-old Utah girl chopped off her daughter's ponytail in court in order to reduce her community service sentence.

The teen had landed in court in May because she and another girl used dollar-store scissors to cut off the hair of a 3-year-old they had befriended at a McDonald's.

A judge agreed to reduce the teen's community service time if her mother chopped off her daughter's ponytail in court. The mother has since filed a formal complaint, saying the judge in Price intimidated her into the eye-for-an-eye penalty.

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HOUSTON: 'I AM A THIEF'

Daniel and Eloise Mireles were convicted of stealing more than $265,000 from the crime victims fund in Harris County, Texas.

In addition to restitution and jail time, the Houston couple were sentenced in July 2010 to stand in front of the local mall for five hours every weekend for six years with a sign reading, "I am a thief."

A sign was also posted outside their house stating they were convicted thieves.

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PENNSYLVANIA: 'I STOLE FROM A 9-YEAR-OLD'

Western Pennsylvania residents Evelyn Border and her daughter, Tina Griekspoor, 35, were caught stealing a gift card from a child inside a Wal-Mart.

In November 2009, the Bedford County district attorney said he would recommend probation instead of jail time because the women stood in front of the courthouse for 4 1/2 hours holding signs reading, "I stole from a 9-year-old on her birthday! Don't steal or this could happen to you!"

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WISCONSIN: 'I WAS STUPID'

A man who crashed his car into the gates at a Wisconsin waste water treatment plant spent eight hours holding a sign saying, "I was stupid."

Shane McQuillan decided he would rather do that than spend 20 days in jail on a charge of criminal damage to property.

McQuillan had a blood alcohol level of 0.238 percent, nearly three times the legal limit for driving, at the time of the 2008 accident in Eau Claire.

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OHIO: 'SORRY FOR THE JACKASS OFFENSE'

An Ohio judge ordered a man and woman who vandalized a baby Jesus statue in a church's outdoor nativity to march through town with a donkey to apologize.

Jessica Lange and Brian Patrick admitted to defacing the statue at St. Anthony Roman Catholic Church on Christmas Eve 2003. They led a donkey provided by a petting zoo through the streets of Fairport Harbor carrying a sign that said, "Sorry for the jackass offense."

After the 30-minute march, the pair were taken to serve 45-day sentences that included drug and alcohol treatment. They also were ordered to replace the statue.

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TEXAS: FROM COURTHOUSE TO DOGHOUSE

Curtis Robin Sr. made a deal with Texas prosecutors to spend 30 consecutive nights in a 2-by-3-foot doghouse after pleading guilty to whipping his stepson with a car antenna.

Robin served the sentence outside his home in Vidor in 2003 so he could avoid jail time and continue working as a foreman for a demolition company.

Police were assigned to randomly check on Robin to ensure he was in the doghouse each night from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. Robin was allowed to have a sleeping bag, mosquito netting, plastic tarp or similar protective items.
I understand that people are stupid, but really.. REALLY?!!?!?

It's only a short while before each one of these are photographed for People of WalMart.

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Old Nov 15, 2012, 12:20 PM   #15
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Just shared this on G+ so the world could see what a stupid bi*** she is.

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Break the law, face the consequences. Regardless of what they may be. If my friends or relatives are stupid enough to endanger peoples lives, they deserve what they get. If I get so engrossed in my life so as to endanger someone else's, then I deserve what I get. This POS could have killed someones child at some point.

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Something that seems to have eluded a number of posters is that what is 'good enough' for this one person is also 'good enough' for them. Nobody goes through a month without breaking at least one law, even if by accident. If the US 'vengence' system is in fact reverting to a form of punishment that dates back to the Roman Empire, or the Dark Ages - you, your parent, your partner, your child - may be next person splashed on the front page of your hometown paper. Of course, at that point, you will still feel that the humiliation was a just one. Even as friends, enemies, work colleagues, etc post the photos in a locker, an office, a favourite coffee shop for everyone there to share in the spectacle.


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She shouldn't be allowed to face away from traffic, and she should be forced to show her face.

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....Break the law, face the consequences. Regardless of what they may be. If my friends or relatives are stupid enough to endanger peoples lives, they deserve what they get. If I get so engrossed in my life so as to endanger someone else's, then I deserve what I get. This POS could have killed someones child at some point. ...
So.... you're saying that any punishment, as long as it was 'lawful' is OK. So if the law says you should have a foot amputated for trespassing - As long as it was written down, you'd be OK with losing a foot because you cut a corner one day and walked across someone's lawn?

Or have an eye removed because one night someone across the alley was getting undressed in front of their window, and instead of pulling your drapes immediately you became a peeping tom because you watched.... just for 3 seconds? You'd be OK with that, then?

Yes... extreme examples... but that is what you are saying.

And I hope you do ever condemn other cultures for their seemingly barbaric punishments, because those punishments are also 'lawful' for them. Or are you saying it's just your own justice system that gets to be barbaric?
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 12:54 PM   #17
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So.... you're saying that any punishment, as long as it was 'lawful' is OK. So if the law says you should have a foot amputated for trespassing - As long as it was written down, you'd be OK with losing a foot because you cut a corner one day and walked across someone's lawn?

Or have an eye removed because one night someone across the alley was getting undressed in front of their window, and instead of pulling your drapes immediately you became a peeping tom because you watched.... just for 3 seconds? You'd be OK with that, then?

Yes... extreme examples... but that is what you are saying.

And I hope you do ever condemn other cultures for their seemingly barbaric punishments, because those punishments are also 'lawful' for them. Or are you saying it's just your own justice system that gets to be barbaric?
Interesting you note your extreme examples.. for it is those same examples that the 8th Amendment would be applied to, making your examples obsolete. In this case, her punishment is neither cruel nor unusual.

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Interesting you note your extreme examples.. for it is those same examples that the 8th Amendment would be applied to, making your examples obsolete. In this case, her punishment is neither cruel nor unusual.

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The person I'm responding to didn't exclude any options. Plus, I would argue that holding the sign is in fact 'cruel and unusual'. Well maybe not that unusual it turns out, in the US at least.

I'm not sure how one can argue that singling out someone, by the government, for public ridicule is not cruel. Holding the sign became entertainment. We are spending money to eliminate bullying in the schools, and yet you condone bullying by the court system.
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I'm not sure how one can argue that singling out someone, by the government, for public ridicule is not cruel. Holding the sign became entertainment. We are spending money to eliminate bullying in the schools, and yet you condone bullying by the court system.
Cruel is in the eye of the beholder.

Frankly, she got off easy. They should have put her at a school cross walk for a week and taken her license. Driving is a privilege and not a right, abuse it and lose it.
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Yes... extreme examples... but that is what you are saying.
I can't for the life of me figure out why you are taking this "punishment" as too extreme.

The worst that can happen is that she might get a paper cut from the sign, or a cold from standing outside.

Hell, she had everything on but a full burka anyway.
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I can't for the life of me figure out why you are taking this "punishment" as too extreme.

The worst that can happen is that she might get a paper cut from the sign, or a cold from standing outside.

Hell, she had everything on but a full burka anyway.
It's the principle. The State (as in the Government, not Ohio specifically) is not supposed to use the justice system for vengence, or for our entertainment, or to make us feel better. This isn't justice, it's ridicule. What's next, putting people on a horse backwards with a sign? I suppose so - since that was also popular 500 years ago in the dark ages.
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She deserves to be ridiculed for driving on a sidewalk, because she felt too important to stop for a school bus loading/unloading children. She did this multiple times otherwise the bus driver never would have been able to film it.
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It's the principle. The State (as in the Government, not Ohio specifically) is not supposed to use the justice system for vengence, or for our entertainment, or to make us feel better. This isn't justice, it's ridicule. What's next, putting people on a horse backwards with a sign? I suppose so - since that was also popular 500 years ago in the dark ages.
So your fear is that this is a 'gateway' ridicule?

Very much a stretch.
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WTF?!?! She got off easy. She should've gone to jail!
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