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Old Nov 10, 2012, 03:21 AM   #1
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High end Mac Mini and Photoshop CS6

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I use Photoshop CS6 and Lightroom 4 mainly as I am a photographer. It involves both programmes live and some huge PSD files kicking around. I would be interested in hearing from any one who does similar on a high end mac mini. I am thinking of getting the high end new i7 with 16g and an SSD.
Any good ?
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 03:34 AM   #2
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This has been discussed to a degree in other threads. I would call it inconclusive. One person mentioned having trouble using a mini with a CG275w (27" display) with large layered files. Large is a relative thing. I've loaded files that had to be specifically saved out in large document format due to sheer size. My old mac pro handled them well enough. My early 2011 macbook pro can handle them, although it gets annoyingly hot. Certain people have mentioned problems related to lag in things like screen redrawing. I don't think this is an issue of raw power, but more one of drivers, bugs, and general tuning.

My suggestion would be test it out. Above the mid mini, I doubt you'd notice any difference. The quad core option is the biggest differentiation in performance. Beyond that differences are minimal. I would suggest 16GB of ram, and possibly an ssd if scratch space is still required. Using third party ram, you can get 16GB for under $100. Just test ram when you get it to ensure against errors. Especially if you're dealing with large comps, it can make a difference. Photoshop has always pushed a lot of data around, and these days it's possible to hold a large portion of it in ram.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 03:40 AM   #3
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Thank you Kev
I am hoping its a cheaper way to go than an imac and i can utilise my existing monitor. I suppose my main worry is the onboard graphics chip and how that will perform on a 24" monitor. I read some where that CS6 utlises the graphics card more than CS6. I just like the flexibility the mac mini.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 04:05 AM   #4
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I read some where that CS6 utlises the graphics card more than CS6. I just like the flexibility the mac mini.
CS6 utilizes (we like to switch S's for Z's in the US) the graphics card more than CS6? They've leveraged it more and more since CS4, which implemented OpenGL drawing options. Of course the implementation in CS4 was kind of slow on any gpu. CS6 leverages specific things.


Note that some of these are tied to Photoshop Extended. I'm not sure which version you have. I would personally try the cheapest quad core model, purchased directly from Apple. If it lags, return it. If you're keeping it, I would max the ram. It's not entirely necessary for basic testing, but there are times where it will provide a significant advantage. Either it gives you better stability with larger files or you don't have to worry about background applications when working with them. Given the mixed responses related to gpu concerns, I would suggest you try it to make sure it meets your needs. Beyond that model, the gains aren't that amazing. You're better off upgrading more frequently than spending too much on getting a perfectly maxed out model.

http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/...l#cs6_features

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GPU-enhanced features added in Photoshop CS6

Adaptive Wide Angle Filter (compatible video card required)
Liquify (accelerated by compatible video card with 512 MB of VRAM)
Oil Paint (compatible video card required)
Warp and Puppet Warp (accelerated by compatible video card)
Field Blur, Iris Blur, and Tilt/Shift (accelerated by compatible video
card supporting OpenCL)
Lighting Effects Gallery (compatible video card required with 512 MB
of VRAM)
New 3D enhancements (3D features in Photoshop require a compatible video card with 512 MB of VRAM):
Draggable Shadows
Ground plane reflections
Roughness
On-canvas user interface controls
Ground plane
Light widgets on edge of canvas
IBL (image-based light) controller
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I am very interested in some real time feedback about CS6 and the "new" minis. Much of the info I'm finding is about the previous model.

I did find one very interesting post about the HD 4000 graphics and CS6
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http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/art...celeration-161

This is my first time posting - not sure if I'm doing this link right.
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These tests are interesting I will go run them on my PC and MacBook Pro which has an onboard and dedicated GFX card. Report back later
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I am very interested in some real time feedback about CS6 and the "new" minis. Much of the info I'm finding is about the previous model.

I did find one very interesting post about the HD 4000 graphics and CS6
here...

http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/art...celeration-161

This is my first time posting - not sure if I'm doing this link right.
Interesting test. I just ran it on my 2011 mini (2.7 i7, AMD, 16Gb ram).

Results (using the Ducati image):

Field: 17.9
Iris: 15.7
Tilt: 13.6
Oil: 2.9
Lighting: 6.9
Smart: 38.5
Rotate: 1.2
Resize: 0.6
Motion: 1.9

Hopefully someone will post 2012 mini results.

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