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Old Nov 19, 2012, 07:40 AM   #1
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MacPro or PC (OSX or Windows)

I'm currently at an editing job that is ALL PC based (except for the graphics department, as they are all on Macs). The company purchased a NexGen 30TB fiber storage system and says we will be able to edit directly from the server.

Question is, I'm trying to push them to purchase a MacPro, as I've edited on a Mac for the last 9 years (CS6 now) and they are worried Apple might stop hardware support on MacPros. They think the Fiber storage will reject the Macintosh and have constant network connection drops.

Should I accept PC? Or should I push the argument for a Macintosh? And they won't do a Hackintosh (or custom PC builds at that).

Thoughts?
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 07:55 AM   #2
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I'm currently at an editing job that is ALL PC based (except for the graphics department, as they are all on Macs). The company purchased a NexGen 30TB fiber storage system and says we will be able to edit directly from the server.

Question is, I'm trying to push them to purchase a MacPro, as I've edited on a Mac for the last 9 years (CS6 now) and they are worried Apple might stop hardware support on MacPros. They think the Fiber storage will reject the Macintosh and have constant network connection drops.

Should I accept PC? Or should I push the argument for a Macintosh? And they won't do a Hackintosh (or custom PC builds at that).

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CS6 actually runs faster on Windows. Seems to be because of better drivers.

Actually a high-end iMac should do also fine, you could also ask for some of them.

I don't see any reason why Fiber-storage wouldn't work on OS X...
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 08:05 AM   #3
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CS6 is the same on Windows as OSX.

You won't notice any difference using it apart from the fact that it will be quicker on Windows as others have said.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 08:15 AM   #4
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The reason for the MacPro is I'm using a G-Speed RAID10 with a PCIe 4x controller on my HP desktop.

IT doesn't like Macs really, which is what I think it boils down to. Their argument is that Apple might stop supporting it's hardware down the road and their OS (Mountain Loin). I'm trying to make a solid argument with facts before I ask for a MacPro.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 08:51 AM   #5
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Obvious choice, Windows.
Why? Windows is the lead platform for Adobe and that translates in increased reliability and performance of the apps you're running, not to mention Windows's much better drivers and the more wide, up to date, graphics card selection (CS6 has apps that leverage CUDA).
As for the Mac Pro, it's EOL, end of the storyline.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:17 AM   #6
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No point in getting a Mac if it will have troubles with current system. Also Mac Pro has old processors and ancient GPU.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:58 PM   #7
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Should I accept PC? Or should I push the argument for a Macintosh? And they won't do a Hackintosh (or custom PC builds at that).

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why on earth would they not allow custom pc builds...

Anyway, accept the PC is my two cents. Not worth the fuss at your place of business.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:05 PM   #8
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The IT department has a point regarding support. All of us are disappointed that Apple is leaving the professional market, but it seems to be the case. Windows 7 x64 is a rock solid OS and will do your work just fine IMO. I use Windows all day for work but use OS X at home for home office and work, and I like both.

It would be hard to go wrong with a good HP or Dell Precision Workstation with Windows 7 (avoid 8).
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:10 PM   #9
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All of us are disappointed that Apple is leaving the professional market, but it seems to be the case.
These are facts? with a new Mac pro coming out next year that has to be heresay.

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Windows 7 x64 is a rock solid OS and will do your work just fine IMO. I use Windows all day for work but use OS X at home for home office and work, and I like both.
So true. It's just a shame Windows Cleartype is so horrid. I can't stand the skinny fonts.

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It would be hard to go wrong with a good HP or Dell Precision Workstation with Windows 7 (avoid 8).
Can't say I trust OEM generic power supplies. What are Dell like? as I only trust what I build, which is just personal preference.
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These are facts? with a new Mac pro coming out next year that has to be heresay.
It still is hearsay, but with the way they did the iMac this year and needlessly removed functionality and serviceability, if they do come out with a Mac Pro, how slimmed down will it be? What will they remove because we don't "need" it? No optical drives, no optical bays is what I predict. Perhaps 2.5" drive bays as well. Who knows.


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Can't say I trust OEM generic power supplies. What are Dell like? as I only trust what I build, which is just personal preference.
I haven't had any issues with them personally, but they do have good warranty service on site if one does encounter issues.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 11:06 PM   #11
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Yes, the IT department won't allow custom builds just to avoid service issues with individual hardware pieces vs a complete box. I agree Windows 7 is solid but I have 8 years of OSX shortcuts under my belt that I can't let go of!

My first argument was telling IT "Imagine placing all of accounting on Macs, they'd freak out!"

I might just accept Windows 7 as my lord and savior at work. The CMD and CTRL keys swaps I'll just get used to.

I wish we knew more about Apple's pro-market. But I think toys are more fun to sell and have more profit. It's too bad because I really felt like Apple was taking over the market.

On the other hand, AVID does the same crap. They make you update hardware for major upgrades.

ADOBE FTW!
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It still is hearsay, but with the way they did the iMac this year and needlessly removed functionality and serviceability, if they do come out with a Mac Pro, how slimmed down will it be? What will they remove because we don't "need" it? No optical drives, no optical bays is what I predict. Perhaps 2.5" drive bays as well. Who knows.
Whats so bad with hooking up external optical drives? I do that with my PC. You can even get slim versions.

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I agree Windows 7 is solid but I have 8 years of OSX shortcuts under my belt that I can't let go of!

My first argument was telling IT "Imagine placing all of accounting on Macs, they'd freak out!"

I might just accept Windows 7 as my lord and savior at work. The CMD and CTRL keys swaps I'll just get used to.
I have to admit I end up pressing alt all the time on Windows keyboards. Oh and some of the Adobe buttons are around the wrong way which is annoying. The dialogs.
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 01:05 PM   #13
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If you....

want the better hardware, better integration with the current infraestructure in your work and no complaints/refusing of service from the IT guys, go with a PC. Other arguments have been poured: Better graphics, CS6 more speedier and so on. The thing is, you are the only user of that computer, right? So you have to had a choice that works for you. But then, the enterprise have persons making decissions over your level.

No important to me to discuss EOL things. Nobody knows for sure about Mac Pros in EOL. Only there are educated guesses/opinions.

So, being a Mac Pro user, based in your post, I advice you to stick with a PC

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