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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:39 AM   #1
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Nokia Launches Free Mapping Alternative for iOS: 'HERE Maps'




Last week, Nokia announced that they would be launching extending its mapping service to iOS with a new free app. Nokia's new HERE Maps app for iOS launched last night, promising offline mode, transit and walking directions:
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HERE Maps helps you feel like a local anywhere you go. See where you are, search and discover nearby places, and get a feel for the place. Collect places to remember or for later discovery. Explore new destinations and know instantly how to get there on foot, by car or on public transport. HERE Maps is based on the world-class NAVTEQ mapping data used in 90% of in-car navigation systems in the world.
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o Map views - Pick the map you need from map view, live traffic view, public transport line view or satellite view
o Save map areas & wander without data coverage
o Maps, search and place coverage for nearly 200 countries
o Step-by-Step voice-guided walk navigation
o Walk navigation through pedestrian routes, parks, alleyways, and more
o Public transportation and driving directions

The Verge spent some time with the new app, and came away with mixed impressions.
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Obviously this is Nokia's first stab at an iOS client for its new mapping service, and in many ways it's more functional than Apple's native Maps client, but for now, many of the additional features don't work as well as they ought to.
Nokia's iOS map launch is significant due to the issues many users have had with Apple's Map application that ships with iOS 6. Apple's solution has drawn considerable criticism due to incomplete data and poor coverage in many areas.

Nokai's HERE Maps is available as a free download from the App Store [iTunes link].

Article Link: Nokia Launches Free Mapping Alternative for iOS: 'HERE Maps'
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:40 AM   #2
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It lacks one of the most important features: a compass.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:41 AM   #3
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This is just a wrapper over a web app. It's slow and text isn't very easy to read.

Personally, I'm fine with Apple Maps. But if someone is going to come out with an actual good mapping solution, it's Google.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 06:39 PM   #4
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This is just a wrapper over a web app. It's slow and text isn't very easy to read.

Personally, I'm fine with Apple Maps. But if someone is going to come out with an actual good mapping solution, it's Google.
by the time that happens Apple maps will be fine for most of the users.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 06:46 PM   #5
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This is great for Apple. This makes Apple Maps look incredible. There is a MUCH bigger gap between this and Apple Maps than between Apple Maps and Google Maps.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 01:20 PM   #6
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This is just a wrapper over a web app. It's slow and text isn't very easy to read.

Personally, I'm fine with Apple Maps. But if someone is going to come out with an actual good mapping solution, it's Google.
It's slow over 3G, I had it for a week and uninstalled it from my iPhone. Still have it on my iPad though.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:41 AM   #7
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The detail where I am (Northern England, UK) is absolutely terrible. Incorrect place names and very poor quality imagery.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:42 AM   #8
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At first glance looks a billion times better than Apple Maps...

(Still can't get over the Apple Maps disaster)...
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 11:00 AM   #9
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At first glance looks a billion times better than Apple Maps...

(Still can't get over the Apple Maps disaster)...
You're not alone, I've been a very loyal Apple customer since 1991. I am simply shocked at the stupid decision Apple has made. Shocked, but not surprised.

If there's one thing this proves (again), is that Apple thinks so highly of themselves, they honestly believe they can do anything and everything better than any other company on the planet.

The _World_ uses Google Maps... why reinvent the wheel?

What a total waste of time & resources. All in the name of vanity & ego.
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You're not alone, I've been a very loyal Apple customer since 1991. I am simply shocked at the stupid decision Apple has made. Shocked, but not surprised.

If there's one thing this proves (again), is that Apple thinks so highly of themselves, they honestly believe they can do anything and everything better than any other company on the planet.

The _World_ uses Google Maps... why reinvent the wheel?

What a total waste of time & resources. All in the name of vanity & ego.
Apple wanted turn by turn directions and Google wouldn't give it to them (exclusive to Android). Apple had to release a map app to compete.

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Nokia Maps are slightly better than Apple Maps, but worse than Google Maps. So hurry up Google!
Based on the comments I have read, it seems like people in the US are generally happy with Apple maps while people outside of the US (especially the UK) dislike Apple maps.
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 12:17 PM   #11
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It lacks one of the most important features: a compass.
Ironic that this app has a distinctive 'compass' icon!

I suspect Apple wants to hold the keys on compass integration like a dog in a manger. Can anyone confirm?
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A good article on the technology behind the Apple map app is here. I wasn't aware that the Apple map app will somewhat work offline (not connected). Note - The vector mapping that Apple uses takes up much less storage. The Apple map app will only work offline if you first examine the route you are taking or look at the area of interest in the Apple map app while connected. You need to be zoomed into the detail you want to see while looking at the map and you want to look at the entire route. The non-vectored map apps will also store map data but are much more limited on range.

I tried it on a 150 mile route (it took a little while to look at the entire route ) but all the detail is there when I'm offline.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:41 AM   #13
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Meh, Apple Maps works for me, though I do miss street view. Flyover is more of a gimmick than anything.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:43 AM   #14
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Maps are blurry. Almost as if they're images always being displayed "zoomed in".

Geez, you'd think Nokia could do better. This is just sad.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 09:11 AM   #15
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Maps are blurry. Almost as if they're images always being displayed "zoomed in".

Geez, you'd think Nokia could do better. This is just sad.
Depends on your location I suppose, Google, Apple also have the same issues - quality of the satellite imaginary.

I like Here overall, small, fast to start up. Off line maps aren't really offline as per Navigon et al.

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This app is poor in quality. Lacking a lot of information, most POIs are wrong, the interface is ugly. It makes Apple maps seem like the epitome of mapping solutions.
Example of lacking information, incorrect POI?

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Old Nov 20, 2012, 09:51 AM   #16
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Maps are blurry. Almost as if they're images always being displayed "zoomed in".

Geez, you'd think Nokia could do better. This is just sad.
I agree - this is really disappointing too. Looks like raster mapping, and not even close to Apple's vector engine in terms of look and feel. Plus it doesn't really do any better than one of Apple's Maps biggest fails - the colour coding of roads. In the UK it should be blue for motorways, green for Primary A roads, and red for non Primary A roads. Here gives us pink for motorways, and an almost indistinguishable slightly lighter pink for all A roads. Cartographically this is basic stuff to be getting wrong.
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Really awful. It's showing me POIs in my neighborhood that have been closed for 10 years and not showing ones that should be there. Maps are blurry, the interface is very sluggish

Apple and Google Maps are both far better.
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Maps are blurry. Almost as if they're images always being displayed "zoomed in".

Geez, you'd think Nokia could do better. This is just sad.
Obviously they just rushed it out after Apple Maps started hitting the news for not being so great. And it shows, because it's just as bad.
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The privacy policy is a little weird - they don't sell your information but can engage in 'joint marketing'. Also all bets regarding privacy are off if Nokia are merged, reorganized or acquired.

Anyways, where I am the maps are already showing errors (most importantly, the local health centre is shown where it was years ago, but it has moved since. Also, my street is depicted as going through a row of houses). I think HERE is just as inaccurate as iOS maps.....
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Meh, Apple Maps works for me, though I do miss street view. Flyover is more of a gimmick than anything.
This is the key for me. No one's going to come up with a street view service anytime soon. The sooner Google get an iOS app approved the better..
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:42 AM   #21
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Yay! It looks like a great app. Should definitely be a good solution for people like me who need transit directions. I always liked Nokia Transport and maps on Windows Phone.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 08:43 AM   #22
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If anything it should prove that Google's own app will be approved by Apple.
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If anything it should prove that Google's own app will be approved by Apple.
Google were just complaining about nothing to draw attention from not being ready. Apple obviously never made any suggestions to the effect that mapping applications would now be refused.
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Google were just complaining about nothing to draw attention from not being ready. Apple obviously never made any suggestions to the effect that mapping applications would now be refused.
Oh I don't disagree with you at all. In fact, I'm quite happy with Apple Maps. But it's not a bad thing if Google has theirs in the store, too.
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If anything it should prove that Google's own app will be approved by Apple.
Not necessarily. GM could still be reject for private API use or some other issue.

The fact that Waze etc were approved shows that being a map app isn't the issue
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