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Old Nov 23, 2012, 02:15 PM   #1
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So I got an iPhone 5 but I have a G5 iMac and can't sync...

Well I got my first ever smartphone and got an iPhone 5. I went to hook it up and sync it up to my iTunes account on my iMac G5 and BAM it tells me I need iTunes 10.7 and you need an intel Mac for that. So WTF am I supposed to do??

I have a MacBook Pro that I use from work that I could use to set up my iPhone, also all of my iTunes library is on an external HD so could I plug that into the MacBook and get the music onto the iPhone that way?
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 02:35 PM   #2
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Unfortunately no way to do this on a G5. Going to have to use a newer Mac or borrow someone's trusty Windows machine. Shame that a 10+ year PC can do this but a 6 year old Mac can't.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 02:39 PM   #3
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Unfortunately no way to do this on a G5. Going to have to use a newer Mac or borrow someone's trusty Windows machine. Shame that a 10+ year PC can do this but a 6 year old Mac can't.
Well said.
Its pure Greed.
Not like a G5 cannot run itunes or support syncing an iphone.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 02:41 PM   #4
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Well ain't that some bull$@#+ I spend money on another Apple product because I am in the ecosystem only to be screwed for being a loyal customer...
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 04:15 PM   #5
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Well ain't that some bull$@#+ I spend money on another Apple product because I am in the ecosystem only to be screwed for being a loyal customer...
Not that I disagree, but the requirements for the iPhone 5 are/were clearly posted at Apple's website. The system requirements for iTunes 10.7 were/are clearly posted there as well. iTunes 10.7 was released two days before the iPhone was announced and when Apple announced the iPhone 5 it made clear that you needed iTunes 10.7 to sync with it.

I made my preorder purchase on the 14th of September knowing full well I could not sync with the phone. Both the PowerPC forums here and the iPhone forums at Apple had many discussions on this.

That said, there are alternatives. PhoneView will at least allow you to see and interact with the iPhone file system. Dropbox allows you to get photos back and forth as well. But to do a true sync you will need (as has been mentioned) an Intel Mac or a PC.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 04:26 PM   #6
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Not that I disagree, but the requirements for the iPhone 5 are/were clearly posted at Apple's website. The system requirements for iTunes 10.7 were/are clearly posted there as well. iTunes 10.7 was released two days before the iPhone was announced and when Apple announced the iPhone 5 it made clear that you needed iTunes 10.7 to sync with it.
Good point. The requirements were well known.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 02:34 AM   #7
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Well said.
Its pure Greed.
Not like a G5 cannot run itunes or support syncing an iphone.
It's more that they don't want to code for an operating system that maybe .01% of iOS users still have at home. I suppose they could allow syncing with older versions of iTunes, but that has never been Apple's style. You can go out and buy a cheap used PC for $50, and Apple gains nothing from that, so I don't feel greed is really their goal here.

EDIT: I see that was already discussed. My bad. But I still just see it as Apple not seeing this as a valuable expenditure of their resources. If you want to translate that to "greed", well ok.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:14 PM   #8
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Unfortunately no way to do this on a G5. Going to have to use a newer Mac or borrow someone's trusty Windows machine. Shame that a 10+ year PC can do this but a 6 year old Mac can't.
A 10+ year PC can run hackintosh. It's not the software, but the hardware.
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Your computer is nearly 7 years old, running a RISC chip. You need to update to an intel based system, man. You can't expect your antiquated architecture to be supported indefinitely, can you?
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 03:36 PM   #10
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Your computer is nearly 7 years old, running a RISC chip. You need to update to an intel based system, man. You can't expect your antiquated architecture to be supported indefinitely, can you?
Have to agree, it is time to upgrade OP.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 11:12 PM   #11
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Your computer is nearly 7 years old, running a RISC chip. You need to update to an intel based system, man. You can't expect your antiquated architecture to be supported indefinitely, can you?
Far older Windows computers can run the latest version of iTunes.

It's a bit embarrassing that PCs made in the 90s can run iTunes on Windows, but something made by Apple in 2006 can't.

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You do know that iPhones are now PC-free. Just use iCloud-based backup/syncing. Problem solved.
The OP clearly stated that they want to sync their music collection.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 11:22 PM   #12
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Far older Windows computers can run the latest version of iTunes.

It's a bit embarrassing that PCs made in the 90s can run iTunes on Windows, but something made by Apple in 2006 can't.



The OP clearly stated that they want to sync their music collection.
Exactly.
Its not that non-intell macs or older 6 year old macs cannot run the latest itunes or recognize the new iphone.
Its that Apple doesnt allow it for obvious reasons. $$$$$$
Its funny how my 15 year old windows XP computer installs the latest itunes and syncs and recognizes the iphone 5 fine but a newer mac doesnt.
Maybe in 3-4 years your now new mac wont get any more updates by apple so wont be able to recognize your then new iphone, ipad or ipod, apple tv and so on.
So in order to have the newer gadget and be able to use it you will have to keep buying new Apple computers.
Very shady IMO.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:36 AM   #13
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Exactly.
Its not that non-intell macs or older 6 year old macs cannot run the latest itunes or recognize the new iphone.
Its that Apple doesnt allow it for obvious reasons. $$$$$$
Its funny how my 15 year old windows XP computer installs the latest itunes and syncs and recognizes the iphone 5 fine but a newer mac doesnt.
Maybe in 3-4 years your now new mac wont get any more updates by apple so wont be able to recognize your then new iphone, ipad or ipod, apple tv and so on.
So in order to have the newer gadget and be able to use it you will have to keep buying new Apple computers.
Very shady IMO.
Or you could just bootcamp and have a windows install and never have to deal with this problem...
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:40 AM   #14
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Or you could just bootcamp and have a windows install and never have to deal with this problem...
I like that idea.
That's thinking out of the box.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:03 AM   #15
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Or you could just bootcamp and have a windows install and never have to deal with this problem...
You can only bootcamp on Intel based macs! As the RISC architecture isn't compatible with Windows!
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Or you could just bootcamp and have a windows install and never have to deal with this problem...
Not going to work, apple introduced bootcamp after the intel macs hit the street. Since PowerPC Macs cannot run windows, there was no reason for apple to introduce bootcamp.

OP, I understand your frustration but seriously, a 10 year old computer cannot be expected to run and interface with the latest and greatest products. Its not pure greed but rather economics. The number of PPC based Macs are but a tiny percentage at this point and apple as long since dropped PPC from being supported in OSX.

I'd recommend a second hand Mac Mini or MBP if your budget is an issue, otherwise grab a new MBP, iMac or Mac Mini at this point
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Or you could just bootcamp and have a windows install and never have to deal with this problem...
That is how I see it...
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Exactly.
Its not that non-intell macs or older 6 year old macs cannot run the latest itunes or recognize the new iphone.
Its that Apple doesnt allow it for obvious reasons. $$$$$$
Its funny how my 15 year old windows XP computer installs the latest itunes and syncs and recognizes the iphone 5 fine but a newer mac doesnt.
Maybe in 3-4 years your now new mac wont get any more updates by apple so wont be able to recognize your then new iphone, ipad or ipod, apple tv and so on.
So in order to have the newer gadget and be able to use it you will have to keep buying new Apple computers.
Very shady IMO.
It's the difference in chips. Apple aren't going to write software for anything other than intel chips. They make that very clear and have dropped all support for POWERPC with Lion.

I bet the 10+ year old PC wouldn't be usable while running iTunes with a library more than a few songs due to the RAM constraints.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:48 PM   #19
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It's the difference in chips. Apple aren't going to write software for anything other than intel chips. They make that very clear and have dropped all support for POWERPC with Lion.

I bet the 10+ year old PC wouldn't be usable while running iTunes with a library more than a few songs due to the RAM constraints.
The windows pc works and runs fine with half a GB of ram and syncs tons of songs, videos, apps with no probs.
you gotta admit its a business decision and not a hardware issue that cannot support the new iTunes on older macs.
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I bet the 10+ year old PC wouldn't be usable while running iTunes with a library more than a few songs due to the RAM constraints.
That doesn't hold up. How would 40GB iPod owners have coped back in 2003?
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Exactly.
Its not that non-intell macs or older 6 year old macs cannot run the latest itunes or recognize the new iphone.
Its that Apple doesnt allow it for obvious reasons. $$$$$$
Its funny how my 15 year old windows XP computer installs the latest itunes and syncs and recognizes the iphone 5 fine but a newer mac doesnt.
Maybe in 3-4 years your now new mac wont get any more updates by apple so wont be able to recognize your then new iphone, ipad or ipod, apple tv and so on.
So in order to have the newer gadget and be able to use it you will have to keep buying new Apple computers.
Very shady IMO.

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Welcome aboard bro.
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Exactly.
Its not that non-intell macs or older 6 year old macs cannot run the latest itunes or recognize the new iphone.
Its that Apple doesnt allow it for obvious reasons. $$$$$$
Its funny how my 15 year old windows XP computer installs the latest itunes and syncs and recognizes the iphone 5 fine but a newer mac doesnt.
Maybe in 3-4 years your now new mac wont get any more updates by apple so wont be able to recognize your then new iphone, ipad or ipod, apple tv and so on.
So in order to have the newer gadget and be able to use it you will have to keep buying new Apple computers.
Very shady IMO.
XP itself isn't even 15 years old. The simple fact is that you need to upgrade. This has nothing to do with apple wanting money. This is OP being a little too precious with his old hardware. It's going to get newer and as stated before, the specs were known. So it's his own fault.

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XP itself isn't even 15 years old. The simple fact is that you need to upgrade. This has nothing to do with apple wanting money. This is OP being a little too precious with his old hardware. It's going to get newer and as stated before, the specs were known. So it's his own fault.
I didn't say the OS is 15 years old.
The computer used is. Big difference.
And I'm not talking out of my rear end, sorry
It's pure greed wether you see it or not.
Stating it before on the specs doesn't change the fact IMO.

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