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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:27 AM   #1
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Apple Reportedly Retakes U.S. Smartphone Sales Lead from Android on iPhone 5 Strength




Research firm Kantar Worldpanel shares its latest data on U.S. smartphone sales, calculating that a strong debut from the iPhone 5 has enabled Apple to retake the lead from Android in the race for the top platform. The report pegs Apple's share of the market during the August-October period at 48.1%, compared to 46.7% for Android.
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Dominic Sunnebo, global consumer insight director at Kantar Worldpanel ComTech, comments: "The last time we saw iOS overtake Android in the US was when the iPhone 4S was released and Apple managed to retain its lead for three consecutive periods. This time we predict that Apple will beat its previous high of 49.3% and achieve its highest ever share of the US smartphone market within the next two periods."

Apple has, however, found stiffer competition from Android internationally, with Android holding 60-80% share in most other markets tracked by Kantar Worldpanel. Notable areas of weakness for Apple include Brazil (0.4%) and Spain (4.0%), but the company continues to perform fairly well in countries such as the the United Kingdom (32.7%) and Australia (29.4%).

The firm's surveys of U.S. iPhone customers finds a healthy 60/40 balance between upgrade buyers and new users, suggesting that Apple is continuing to see loyal customers while also attracting new users with the iPhone 5. According to the report, 92% of current Apple users indicate that they will purchase an iPhone as their next phone.

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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:28 AM   #2
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I live in the UK and a lot of people here are ditching the iphone as the screen is way to small, im sure its only a few but the screen issue is becoming a fact of life.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:30 AM   #3
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I live in the UK and a lot of people here are ditching the iphone as the screen is way to small, im sure its only a few but the screen issue is becoming a fact of life.
How is it too small? I remember people bitching it was too big in 2007. It's a phone, get a tablet if you want a big screen IMO.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:32 AM   #4
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This graph seems wrong...I'm pretty sure RIM has a negative share at this point.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 10:21 AM   #5
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This graph seems wrong...I'm pretty sure RIM has a negative share at this point.
this graph does a great job of showing the race to the bottom.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 12:50 PM   #6
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I've played with a Note 2 and an iPhone 5, and I must say the Note 2 is far superior to the iPhone.

To all of you who think you can't use the phone with one hand, you can, they have a setting "One Handed Operation" that switches the keyboard down and to the left/right depending on if you're right or left handed.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:22 PM   #7
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This graph seems wrong...I'm pretty sure RIM has a negative share at this point.
So the people are actually selling the BB to the companies?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:33 AM   #8
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the biggest reason for so small market share in Brazil for Apple is the very high price.

The iPhone 5 still didn't arrive here, but iPhone 4S is being sold for R$ 1.900,00 (around 900$).
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:35 AM   #9
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The mirroring of the two lines is pretty fascinating. They really are fighting over the same people now.

Gone are the days when they could both gain customers away from dumb-phones and both grow at ridiculous rates. Nope, now a sale for you is literally a customer stolen from the other guy.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:37 AM   #10
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Unfortunately Android will overtake the market cause carriers give them away for free. However I wish all those Android users would just use an iPhone once and realize it is worth the money!
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:38 AM   #11
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The mirroring of the two lines is pretty fascinating. They really are fighting over the same people now.

Gone are the days when they could both gain customers away from dumb-phones and both grow at ridiculous rates. Nope, now a sale for you is literally a customer stolen from the other guy.
If by fighting over the same people you mean they are fighting for anyone who is buying a smart phone, then yes. If you mean to say they are mirroring means Apple is capturing more of the people who debate between Android and Apple that is not what this says at all.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:40 AM   #12
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Considering there is only 1 iphone per year (and only really add significant changes every 2 years) versus over 100 android phones, this is pretty impressive.

As for the screen size, I have no problems with my iPhone5 (heck, I even prefer the smaller iPhone4). I just wish they didn't make it so thin. A thicker/bigger battery would have been more preferable.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 10:36 AM   #13
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The mirroring of the two lines is pretty fascinating. They really are fighting over the same people now.

Gone are the days when they could both gain customers away from dumb-phones and both grow at ridiculous rates. Nope, now a sale for you is literally a customer stolen from the other guy.
just this summer the smartphone usage hit 50% of the US population. every day the mirroring effect you see will become closer to exact. if not disrupted, eventually they will stay constant as two parallel lines.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 10:44 AM   #14
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The mirroring of the two lines is pretty fascinating. They really are fighting over the same people now.

Gone are the days when they could both gain customers away from dumb-phones and both grow at ridiculous rates. Nope, now a sale for you is literally a customer stolen from the other guy.
You seem to be reading the graph wrong. This is sales share of smartphones for the quarter. If one company gains a greater share of all sales, the others have to have a lesser share. It does not necessarily mean anyone is 'switching'.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 10:56 AM   #15
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The mirroring of the two lines is pretty fascinating. They really are fighting over the same people now.
Not necessarily. Market share is a percentage of overall sales so this could be interpreted many ways. And given that so many people are still switching from "dumb" phones to smartphones, it's doubtful your interpretation is accurate. It could also mean that more newcomers to the smartphone market are choosing iPhones while existing users are staying where they are.
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The mirroring of the two lines is pretty fascinating. They really are fighting over the same people now.

Gone are the days when they could both gain customers away from dumb-phones and both grow at ridiculous rates. Nope, now a sale for you is literally a customer stolen from the other guy.
This is a proportion graph, not total sales. See "% Smartphone Sales Share" on the y-axis.

If the iPhone suddenly sells more, the Android line will drop even if Android sales don't actually slow down.
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The mirroring of the two lines is pretty fascinating. They really are fighting over the same people now.

Gone are the days when they could both gain customers away from dumb-phones and both grow at ridiculous rates. Nope, now a sale for you is literally a customer stolen from the other guy.
The main point of the graph is that there are only two os players now.
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According to their charts, Canada has zero iPhone users and zero Android users. In fact, Canada doesn't even exists!
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According to their charts, Canada has zero iPhone users and zero Android users. In fact, Canada doesn't even exists!
That's because Robin Williams was successful with his song:

BLAME CANADA
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I have nothing against two strong contenders! Of course, they will overtake one another every now and then.

I think that are 4 categories for Android and iOS:
1) Those who prefer iOS
2) Those who prefer Android
3) Those who despise iOS/Apple
4) Those who despise Android/Google

To each his own... Although those in #3 and #4 should get a life...

At this point, RIM and MS should just be included in "others". On the other hand, I welcome them for trying.
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I have nothing against two strong contenders! Of course, they will overtake one another every now and then.

I think that are 4 categories for Android and iOS:
1) Those who prefer iOS
2) Those who prefer Android
3) Those who despise iOS/Apple
4) Those who despise Android/Google

To each his own... Although those in #3 and #4 should get a life...

At this point, RIM and MS should just be included in "others". On the other hand, I welcome them for trying.

Well said. Competition is good for Apple. People forget that these are "preferences" not a religion or a lifestyle.
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I have nothing against two strong contenders! Of course, they will overtake one another every now and then.

I think that are 4 categories for Android and iOS:
1) Those who prefer iOS
2) Those who prefer Android
3) Those who despise iOS/Apple
4) Those who despise Android/Google

To each his own... Although those in #3 and #4 should get a life...

At this point, RIM and MS should just be included in "others". On the other hand, I welcome them for trying.
MS is doing more that just trying. In many ways they have out done android.

If they get their marketing in order and get more product out they will become a big player.
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I have nothing against two strong contenders! Of course, they will overtake one another every now and then.

I think that are 4 categories for Android and iOS:
1) Those who prefer iOS
2) Those who prefer Android
3) Those who despise iOS/Apple
4) Those who despise Android/Google

To each his own... Although those in #3 and #4 should get a life...

At this point, RIM and MS should just be included in "others". On the other hand, I welcome them for trying.
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The screen size issue is interesting. If the bigger screens on Android phones are all the better for surfing the net, then why do figures consistently show that more people are surfing the net on iOS devices?

There was an interesting article about this a while ago, the jist of which was that more people in the market for a smartphone are going for iOS, whereas more people in the market for a regular phone are ending up with Android smartphones.
Because figures are statistics, and statistics can be skewed easily, depending on who's benefiting.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 04:12 AM   #24
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I think that are 4 categories for Android and iOS:
1) Those who prefer iOS
2) Those who prefer Android
3) Those who despise iOS/Apple
4) Those who despise Android/Google

To each his own...
I'm in a fifth category. I despise iOS, but I prefer Apple hardware and love my iPhone 5 despite the stale and boring software.
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I have nothing against two strong contenders! Of course, they will overtake one another every now and then.

I think that are 4 categories for Android and iOS:
1) Those who prefer iOS
2) Those who prefer Android
3) Those who despise iOS/Apple
4) Those who despise Android/Google

To each his own... Although those in #3 and #4 should get a life...

At this point, RIM and MS should just be included in "others". On the other hand, I welcome them for trying.
im a 5th category. i hate ios i think it is restrictive. but i love the app store. i love android. lots of freedom. but not impressed with google play store.
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