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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:02 AM   #1
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New iMac and iPad Mini to Be in Short Supply Until 2013




DigiTimes reports that shipments of both the iPad mini and iMac are expected to be constrained throughout 2012. In both cases, display production appears to be the limiting factor.

For the iPad mini, the panels have reportedly seen low yield rates, especially from one of Apple's suppliers. As a result, Apple may only reach 6 million of an estimated 10 million target for iPad mini shipments in the fourth quarter of 2012.

Meanwhile, the newly announced iMacs will also see constrained supplies due to issues with iMac panels from LGD.
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Additionally, the sources said new iMac models use panels sourced only from LGD. The company has had to develop a new production process for mass producing the iMac panels and has limited capacity, which is delaying shipments.
Yields of both products aren't expected to reach target goals until the first quarter of 2013.

Apple just announced that the new iMac would go on sale on Friday, November 30th, but the 27" model wouldn't start shipping until December.

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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:07 AM   #2
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:08 AM   #3
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:19 AM   #4
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Apple needs to get their **** together!
That is exactly what is happening. Apple is in the process of changing suppliers for all LCD panels. These issues had been resolved previously with Samsung but since they are divesting all business with Samsung they have to work with new suppliers to ramp up to meet needs.

Apple attempted to settle all the issue with Samsung so they could remain partners but that is not going to be possible since Samsung won't agree to a settlement, even when using binding arbitration.

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I thought Tim Cook was supposed to be a supply-chain guru

This is Tim changing suppliers. It would be worse if he was not a guru..
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:22 AM   #5
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That is exactly what is happening. Apple is in the process of changing suppliers for all LCD panels. These issues had been resolved previously with Samsung but since they are divesting all business with Samsung they have to work with new suppliers to ramp up to meet needs.

Apple attempted to settle all the issue with Samsung so they could remain partners but that is not going to be possible since Samsung won't agree to a settlement, even when using binding arbitration.

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This is Tim changing suppliers. It would be worse if he was not a guru..
I think there is much more to this than just that; I feel there is a disconnect between design and manufacturing abilities as well as quality control issues at play. If Apple gave the manufacturer enough lead time they could produce enough displays, however it seems Apple is playing things too tight and not giving the suppliers time to ramp up and build up supply. This is not a supply chain guru at work....Supply Chain cannot solve irrational lead times and design decisions that are hard to produce in great numbers with high quality...
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:24 AM   #6
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That is exactly what is happening. Apple is in the process of changing suppliers for all LCD panels. These issues had been resolved previously with Samsung but since they are divesting all business with Samsung they have to work with new suppliers to ramp up to meet needs.

Apple attempted to settle all the issue with Samsung so they could remain partners but that is not going to be possible since Samsung won't agree to a settlement, even when using binding arbitration.
Looks like a grim transition for Apple. Samsung panels outcompete any other brand and from the looks of it, it's clearly evident that other suppliers can't handle the demand nor the yield percentages that Samsung was able to. Oh, and the quality.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this affects their entire product line over the next year.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 09:27 AM   #7
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Looks like a grim transition for Apple. Samsung panels outcompete any other brand and from the looks of it, it's clearly evident that other suppliers can't handle the demand nor the yield percentages that Samsung was able to. Oh, and the quality.
Other suppliers will ramp up. It takes time.

As for quality, are you referring to the level of quality that caused gray splotches to appear on my Samsung TV after it went out of warranty? The same splotches that I saw in a sports bar on five of their Samsung TVs?

It wasn't even screen burn-in, it's randomly shaped gray splotches.

Quality, indeed.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 07:15 PM   #8
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it's clearly evident that other suppliers can't handle the demand ... and the quality.
I'm writing from an HP LP2475w, based on an LG panel, and I have to say it is the best display I've ever worked on. So, I would not fear about quality too much.

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Old Nov 28, 2012, 05:14 AM   #9
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That is exactly what is happening. Apple is in the process of changing suppliers for all LCD panels. These issues had been resolved previously with Samsung but since they are divesting all business with Samsung they have to work with new suppliers to ramp up to meet needs.

Apple attempted to settle all the issue with Samsung so they could remain partners but that is not going to be possible since Samsung won't agree to a settlement, even when using binding arbitration.

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This is Tim changing suppliers. It would be worse if he was not a guru..
Are you serious? Apple had no intention of reaching an agreement with Samsung. They offered terms they knew Samsung could not agree too. There is no binding arbitration, what are you on?

As for Tim changing suppliers, they should have already had the excess supply in the system to allow such a large transition. You don't leave one supplier and then a day later think oh crap, better find a knew one. That would be pee poor management.

A small company you could understand there being problems, but not a company with over $100bn in the bank doing nothing.

If they were hoping for a holiday sales boost then they have fluffed it. People aren't going to want to wait 2 months for something Apple said you should you be able to buy in November, they will go elsewhere.
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That is exactly what is happening. Apple is in the process of changing suppliers for all LCD panels. These issues had been resolved previously with Samsung but since they are divesting all business with Samsung they have to work with new suppliers to ramp up to meet needs.

Apple attempted to settle all the issue with Samsung so they could remain partners but that is not going to be possible since Samsung won't agree to a settlement, even when using binding arbitration.

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This is Tim changing suppliers. It would be worse if he was not a guru..
Samsung wasn't agreeing to a settlement on Apple's terms which are only approved, again, in the US. Honestly, Apple is getting what they deserve for stealing ideas, then suing other people for stealing the same ideas.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 08:11 AM   #11
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This is Tim changing suppliers. It would be worse if he was not a guru..
The crap you guys make up. I love it when people here act like they have some kind of personal insight into the inner-workings of Apple and its top executives.

The most powerful corporation on the planet does not launch a new product line during the holidays with an expectation the supply chains will be choked off. Somebody screwed up.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 09:45 AM   #12
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That is exactly what is happening. Apple is in the process of changing suppliers for all LCD panels. These issues had been resolved previously with Samsung but since they are divesting all business with Samsung they have to work with new suppliers to ramp up to meet needs.

Apple attempted to settle all the issue with Samsung so they could remain partners but that is not going to be possible since Samsung won't agree to a settlement, even when using binding arbitration.

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This is Tim changing suppliers. It would be worse if he was not a guru..

Apple's getting the b!tchslap back. They angered samsung to begin with right with all the patent lawsuits?
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:23 AM   #13
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:44 AM   #14
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It's not life or death. People just need to be patient.
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OMFG yet more shipment delays, it's the end of the world...

...except it's not, is it?
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 03:36 AM   #16
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...except it's not, is it?
Not at all .. People should be used to that by now - Either queue for days or pay overpriced ones on eBay ..
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...except it's not, is it?
It may feel that way for the people expecting to give them as gifts.
I hope your gifts get delayed until next year so you can see how it feels.
Don’t be so ignorant.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 02:49 AM   #18
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...and July 2013 new model! Even thinner with touch screen, 2TB SSD, 5GB GPU DDR7, but because someone stops delivers of sand to Apple, the new iMac will be delayed for the 33th of the March 2025 ?
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I am exactly the intended market for this computer (the high-end 27" at least). However, the more I read about this new imac, I think I'm gonna stick with my 2.93 i7 for at least another year or so. If Apple had ditched the very carefully thought-out up-sell strategies that dictate all the options of what we can and can't get (and how much it all costs) and just gave us a very powerful, flexible all-in-one imac for a (generally) competitive price, I would buy it the day it was available.

I wonder how many people that requested things for the next imac asked for the edges of their next desktop computer to be thinner?

This is a company that is no longer interested in what any professional user wants or needs. Looking at it from a businessman's standpoint, Apple wants to take as much money as possible, in any way it can think of, from my small company. I have been a vocal fan and buyer of numerous Apple computers for well over 15 years. However, after the last few years of anemic Mac Pro "updates" and now this Imac, I'm gonna pass. Mac Pro models are a terrible bargain, and the new Imac seems to be gradually moving in the same direction. New Imac? No thanks, Apple.
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It's not life or death. People just need to be patient.
Patience has a limit.

I have been waiting for the iMac since December 2011.

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They haven't failed at anything here. Do your reaserch.
Releasing in the last day of November (still to be seen, in my opinion) is still November, but looks more like one of those lawyer things where technicalities are all that matters.

In this case, the release date is supposed to be meant for the customers, not for someone tracking the calendar. November in my head meant start of, or middle of, not the last day
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Patience has a limit.

I have been waiting for the iMac since December 2011.

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Releasing in the last day of November (still to be seen, in my opinion) is still November, but looks more like one of those lawyer things where technicalities are all that matters.

In this case, the release date is supposed to be meant for the customers, not for someone tracking the calendar. November in my head meant start of, or middle of, not the last day
They said in november which has 30 days. Very clear to me.
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Patience has a limit.

I have been waiting for the iMac since December 2011.

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Releasing in the last day of November (still to be seen, in my opinion) is still November, but looks more like one of those lawyer things where technicalities are all that matters.

In this case, the release date is supposed to be meant for the customers, not for someone tracking the calendar. November in my head meant start of, or middle of, not the last day
I think it is a double edged sword for Apple. If they wait for supply to pick up before going on sale then people will get mad since they have been waiting for a new iMac for awhile. They don't want those people going out and buying a new computer for Christmas so they announced it now so you will preorder early or at least wait a little longer.
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[QUOTE=madrag;16379112]Patience has a limit.

I have been waiting for the iMac since December 2011.[COLOR="#808080"]

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you don't know what patience is, I'm still waiting for a powerbook G5!!!
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Patience has a limit.

I have been waiting for the iMac since December 2011.

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Releasing in the last day of November (still to be seen, in my opinion) is still November, but looks more like one of those lawyer things where technicalities are all that matters.

In this case, the release date is supposed to be meant for the customers, not for someone tracking the calendar. November in my head meant start of, or middle of, not the last day
If you placed your order on day 1 then you aren't going to be affected. If you've been waiting for a year then you obviously placed a pre-order.
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It's not life or death. People just need to be patient.
Shouldn't have to be this patient bud.


and also I see iPad mini's everytime I walk into a store. Maybe its just here....
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