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Old Nov 29, 2012, 03:25 PM   #1
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iTunes 11, good or bad?

while the new features are nice, how has it been performing for you?
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 03:36 PM   #2
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while the new features are nice, how has it been performing for you?
it's so fast! I cannot even see the "bounce" effect.

i7 2011 air, 40gb library.

and it's beautiful!

(it looks like it's still very slow on windows... but who cares..)
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 03:52 PM   #3
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Very fast. Much faster then 10.7

Impressed.
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 03:58 PM   #4
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The Up Next is incredible, they made it really really good! When opening and album, the background of that window changes color to that of the cover art. Beautiful. Adding items to playlists is also great. The mini-player is finally useable and really good, all because of Up Next.

The downside is the lay-out of the Store, the horizontal scroll with sidebar on top of that.

I don't spend much time in the Store though, so for me it's minor.
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:04 PM   #5
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All these people saying it's so fast - have you tried it in full-screen mode?

That's how I usually use iTunes. I'm finding it awfully slow. Much worse than 10.7. Once I stick it in to windowed mode, performance improves a bit. But that's not how I like to use it.

I don't love or hate this new release. The 'up next' thing is long overdue, the UI in general is nice although it clearly needs more work. So there are some positives.

On the other hand, it's become much slower for me (RMBP). Also, the column track layout is very poorly thought out (e.g. it mixes disks in to the same columns). That's something I actually think Steve Jobs would have noticed; being a long-time music lover. Typically (going right back through CDs, cassettes and vinyl), "SIDE A" and "SIDE B" were shown in separate columns. (example here).

If Apple had gone that route, the new iTunes layout would look beautiful and slide right in to music history. Right now it's just a sloppy mess.

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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:55 PM   #6
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All these people saying it's so fast - have you tried it in full-screen mode?

That's how I usually use iTunes. I'm finding it awfully slow. Much worse than 10.7. Once I stick it in to windowed mode, performance improves a bit. But that's not how I like to use it.

I don't love or hate this new release. The 'up next' thing is long overdue, the UI in general is nice although it clearly needs more work. So there are some positives.

On the other hand, it's become much slower for me (RMBP). Also, the column track layout is very poorly thought out (e.g. it mixes disks in to the same columns). That's something I actually think Steve Jobs would have noticed; being a long-time music lover. Typically (going right back through CDs, cassettes and vinyl), "SIDE A" and "SIDE B" were shown in separate columns. (example here).

If Apple had gone that route, the new iTunes layout would look beautiful and slide right in to music history. Right now it's just a sloppy mess.
I use it in fullscreen mode 90% of the time. it's lightning fast.

However, i have an SSD and I believe that anyone that buys/uses a new mac (post 2011) without some sort of SSD does not know what he is doing.
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Old Dec 2, 2012, 01:27 AM   #7
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The Up Next is incredible, they made it really really good! When opening and album, the background of that window changes color to that of the cover art. Beautiful. Adding items to playlists is also great. The mini-player is finally useable and really good, all because of Up Next.

The downside is the lay-out of the Store, the horizontal scroll with sidebar on top of that.

I don't spend much time in the Store though, so for me it's minor.
I really want to see Up Next come to iOS.
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Old Dec 2, 2012, 01:48 AM   #8
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Dang it I keep thinking I really don't like about it. The new layout that matches the background color with the album art. It's not a huge deal but I honestly don't like how it fades the artwork into the background. I would rather it have a clean break from the artwork to the background color. This is mostly because the album artwork is sometimes a part of the artform and I like to see it in its entirety.
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Old Mar 18, 2013, 08:55 PM   #9
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When opening and album, the background of that window changes color to that of the cover art. Beautiful.
It's hideous. I don't want to be squinting through colors at information. I want consistency, not kindergarten fingerpaint nonsense.

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Adding items to playlists is also great.
It takes MORE steps/clicks than it used to. You can't choose things as quickly. You have to switch views sometimes, and then move between different windows to arrange the playlists as you want.

This 'upgrade' gets a big stinking F.

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1) iTunes DJ

2) Ability to open separate windows.

Used to, you could create a playlist, and then open it separately from the main window. Then you could just scroll through and drag and drop things where YOU wanted them in the list as you went. If you wanted to add something later, you could highlight the song you wanted, then look in the other list for where you wanted to put it, rather than trying to drag it up a (possibly) long list of songs flying by.

Now, you have to add things to the playlist THEN go to the playlist and arrange it how you want.

That's MORE steps and more TIME than it used to take.

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Old Dec 9, 2012, 02:40 AM   #10
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it's so fast! I cannot even see the "bounce" effect.

i7 2011 air, 40gb library.

and it's beautiful!

(it looks like it's still very slow on windows... but who cares..)
Try it when you have a 160gb library, it's a POS! and thats on a 2011 imac 3.4ghz,24gb RAM, 2GB video! I'd hate to think what it's like on a slower machine!
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 06:41 AM   #11
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keeps freezing.

very counter intuitive

I rarely had to use the "force quit" before on any application but having to each time this is used.

Even leaving it for an hour or two I still have the revolving rainbow ball of W.A.I.T.I.N.G...

dreadful. truly dreadful.
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 07:01 AM   #12
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Just to provide another data point: I have a 350GB library with ~11000 music files and a few hundred movies,TV episodes, iTunes U items, podcasts and apps, and I have no issues with the speed of the application at all. If anything, it's slightly faster than iTunes 10.

The dropdown search works instantaneously. I suppose the speed of the filtering of results in the main window (after pressing 'Enter') could be slightly improved, but I had issues with that in previous versions as well, especially when the column browser was visible. I certainly don't get any beach balls or anything like that. And no other noteworthy slowdowns when using the app at all (maybe with one exception being Metadata editing, which I feel should be a bit faster).

I don't know, maybe it's because I'm on an SSD (Fusion setup). I'm not using the latest hardware either (C2D MBP). I feel like the app is still riddled with bugs, I miss the cover art in list view a bit and I wish the album view was somewhat more configurable, but speed isn't among my complaints. I'm on 10.8.2 by the way.

I love the improved search – especially the fact that it shows playlists (smart playlists for your most listened to composers for example), too – and the new mini player.
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 12:25 PM   #13
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I have my iTunes playing on a mac mini hooked up to my HiFi and control what I want playing using Remote on my iPhone.

If I choose an artist then an album to play it will play the album, but at the end of that album it goes on to play the next album sorted alphabetically by album title and son on until there are no more albums by that artist. Whereas before it would just play the one album then stop.

To get iTunes 11 to only play one album I now have launch Remote to got More then Select Albums then have to search through the 1541 (yup!) albums to find the one I want to play.

So I am not liking iTunes 11.
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 12:11 PM   #14
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I like the new iTunes. It has been made easier to use and I am rediscovering music I hadn't listened to for years because of the "Up Next" feature.

So for me at least, it's been a good update.
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 05:32 PM   #15
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Try it when you have a 160gb library, it's a POS! and thats on a 2011 imac 3.4ghz,24gb RAM, 2GB video! I'd hate to think what it's like on a slower machine!
The Specs: i5 750 (4 cores, 2.67 GHz), 12 GB RAM, Windows 7 x64, iTunes library on boot drive SSD, all content on 5400 RPM WD Green drive, 486 GB library, 28000+ songs.

The Comparison: So my library is 3x the size of yours, and my machine is slower with half the RAM, and it's running Windows, which everyone knows is a POS, because iTunes is designed for the Mac and is nothing less than virus bloatware on Windows, and it sucks, hard, by definition, right?

The Reality: iTunes 11 freaking flies. I am seriously impressed at how fast this thing is, from starting up to moving around in the UI. It is better than iTunes 10, which was no slouch itself. For comparison purposes, iTunes 10 was much, MUCH faster than the Zune software, and it was perfectly usable, unlike the Zune software, which was downright miserable. iTunes 11 is even better than 10.

The Conclusion: The iTunes bashers all have nicked chamfering on their iPhones, which spontaneously bend while held gently in the hand, and the only question is, which will they return more often in the first week, their iPhones or iPads?
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:03 PM   #16
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I like.

The only gripe is I really liked the grid feature of the artists, rather than the being listed to the side. But I guess I'll get used to it.

But overall, it looks and works pretty slick.
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:05 PM   #17
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Love it.

Now it has the look of an Apple product.

Which is a good thing.

Only small thing i dont like is, i cant use the mini player when i have iTunes in full screen mode.

So for that, i will stick with Bowtie.
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:06 PM   #18
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I really like it. Even fast with movies and TV shows stored on my NAS So far, one happy camper!
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Love the 'play next' and 'add to play next'. It's what DJ (or whatever it was called) should've been.

I'm disappointed that multiple genre's didn't make it in.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 09:13 AM   #20
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LOVE the "play next" feature. I've been wanting something like that for AGES. I also love the new album layout, it looks lovely.
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:14 PM   #21
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Yeah, seems okay so far
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:34 PM   #22
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I love it, much better than the previous versions.
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 05:41 PM   #23
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Love it.

Now it has the look of an Apple product.

Which is a good thing.

Only small thing i dont like is, i cant use the mini player when i have iTunes in full screen mode.

So for that, i will stick with Bowtie.
If you click on the album art at top of iTunes you will get an album art windows just like Bowtie even in full screen... is cool.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 08:19 AM   #24
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MiniPlayer

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Love it.

Only small thing i dont like is, i cant use the mini player when i have iTunes in full screen mode.

So for that, i will stick with Bowtie.
Seems to work if you go to the Window menu and uncheck iTunes, then check MiniPlayer, then check the iTunes window again.
Also, you may want to "Keep MiniPlayer on top of all other windows" in the Advanced Preferences window.
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 04:05 PM   #25
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Only thing I don't like about is that I prefer the classic view that the 'Songs' section has, but you can't display album artwork that way.
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