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Old Dec 3, 2012, 09:30 PM   #1
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Apple Responds to Samsung's Request for Information on Trial Jury Foreman




AllThingsD is reporting that Apple has responded to Samsung's claim that jury foreman Velvin Hogan conducted himself improperly during jury selection for the Samsung v. Apple trial. Hogan is under examination for his failure to disclose a previous legal dispute with Seagate, his former employer and one of Samsung's partners.*In November, Judge Lucy Koh said she would "consider the questions" of whether Hogan conducted himself improperly.

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Apple does not accuse juror Velvin Hogan of misconduct -- because there was none -- so what Apple knew and when regarding Mr. Hogan's lawsuit with Seagate nearly two decades ago is irrelevant to any issue raised by Samsung's post-trial motions. Apple does not contend that any past relationship between Mr. Hogan and Seagate, or any lawsuit between them, is anything remotely close to support a challenge for cause.
Hogan has been one of the more visible members of the jury, speaking with a myriad of news organizations about the decision in the case, which concluded earlier this year. The dispute over Hogan's behavior represents one more incident in the ongoing legal drama between Apple and Samsung.

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Old Dec 3, 2012, 09:32 PM   #2
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What apocalypse? Oh right, Apple's destroying Samsung.
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Old Dec 3, 2012, 09:52 PM   #4
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I get accused of improperly conducting myself all the time
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Pants on or off?
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Sometimes both at the same time!
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Curious to see what the Samsung apologists have to say about this.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:41 AM   #8
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Curious to see what the Samsung apologists have to say about this.
What is there to say about an obviously self-serving statement on the part of Apple?
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Curious to see what the Samsung apologists have to say about this.
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Me too! And by someone a lot more scary than Samsung!!

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Apple's disclosure : http://www.groklaw.net/pdf4/ApplevSamsung-2176.pdf

Exhibit A mentionned in the disclosure : http://www.groklaw.net/pdf4/ApplevSamsung-2176ExA.pdf

Not really anything interesting here, it's a one-sided reply to a motion. Much more interesting is that Judge Koh granted full public disclosure of the HTC/Apple licensing terms, except for pricing and royalties which will remain sealed (Samsung lawyers get to see it, not the general public) :

http://www.groklaw.net/pdf4/ApplevSamsung-2179.pdf

So we'll get to know exactly which IP (as in patents) HTC is licensing from Apple and if these patents are the same used against Samsung or not.

The interesting developments are scheduled for the 6th of December, when Judge Koh hears both parties motions for Summary Judgement and Samsung's motion for a new trial.

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The guy improperly instructed the jurors on the how to proceed with determining whether or not Samsung infringe. He also skipped many steps of the instructions the court had given them to follow.
And also failed to recognize proper prior art rules of the USPTO, whereas the Jury found that the Rubber Band patent was valid even though Samsung presented prior art for it, but 2 months later, the USPTO found it invalid in light of the prior art :

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...anding-patent/

This is a serious black eye as far as the Jury's whole decision goes, it really hurts the credibility of their work.

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Curious to see what the Samsung apologists have to say about this.
I'm curious as well, since there really isn't anything about Samsung here, it's a motion filed by Apple after Samsung filed a motion to compel them to disclose their prior knowledge of the Jury foreman's lawsuit with Seagate.

Or maybe I'm just curious to see how people will manage to yet again turn this thread into a *****torm of insults rather than discuss the actual facts behind the case. Good job on already trying to trainwreck this thread.
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And also failed to recognize proper prior art rules of the USPTO, whereas the Jury found that the Rubber Band patent was valid even though Samsung presented prior art for it, but 2 months later, the USPTO found it invalid in light of the prior art :

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...anding-patent/
It's not the same patent that Samsung argued was prior art though. The fact that USPTO has found it invalid based on an earlier patent, is more of a black eye for the USPTO as they then should never have granted it to begin with.
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Apparently bygones aren't bygones anymore
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Honestly, the only thing that wears on me is when jurors, enabled by news media, think that they are part of the story. When asked to appear on <insert talk show here>, I'd like to see/hear "No thanks, we did our time in the box. Our verdict is in the records. We have nothing to add beyond that and have lives to get on with." That some think that this is their 15 minutes kinda bums me out.
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