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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:24 PM   #1
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LaCie d2 External Hard Drives Upgraded With Thunderbolt Ports




LaCie's popular d2 series of hard drives have been upgraded with Thunderbolt, in addition to the existing USB 3.0 ports. There is a 3TB model for $299 and a 4TB unit for $399, both coming with 3-year warranties.

LaCie promises top performance from the drives, though they are hampered a bit by the legacy hard drives inside. Solid state drives are needed to achieve the highest transfer speeds. That said, for those needing maximum storage, these drives should do the trick.
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Deadlines rule our world. When digital storage is critical for your project, it had better be as fast and reliable as you are. In every office setting, it has to connect to any computer, deliver more than enough speed for the most demanding applications, and be completely reliable. Enter the LaCie d2 USB 3.0 Thunderbolt Series.
The drives are available from LaCie's online store.

Article Link: LaCie d2 External Hard Drives Upgraded With Thunderbolt Ports
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:28 PM   #2
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It's great to finally see Thunderbolt trickling down to consumer price levels. Not a steal, but for a quality, well-designed product it's not too bad at all.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:30 PM   #3
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Wait don't sayt it. Cable's not included?
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:31 PM   #4
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What don't sayt it. Cable's not included?
the cable IS INCLUDED!!!

Box Content:
LaCie d2 USB 3.0 Thunderbolt Series
* USB 3.0 cable (USB 2.0 compatible)
* Thunderbolt cable
* Drive stand for upright use
* Rubber feet for horizontal use
* External power supply
* Quick Install Guide
* CD with User Manual and software
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:32 PM   #5
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the cable is included!!!

Box content:
Lacie d2 usb 3.0 thunderbolt series
* usb 3.0 cable (usb 2.0 compatible)
* thunderbolt cable
* drive stand for upright use
* rubber feet for horizontal use
* external power supply
* quick install guide
* cd with user manual and software
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:33 PM   #6
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Not a bad price considering the $50 thunderbolt cable is included. However, I'm skeptical of the 180 MB/s speeds... And is too much to ask for two thunderbolt ports for those of us that need to daisy chain?
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:58 PM   #7
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Not a bad price considering the $50 thunderbolt cable is included. However, I'm skeptical of the 180 MB/s speeds... And is too much to ask for two thunderbolt ports for those of us that need to daisy chain?
Maybe if you only write for.. half a second :-)

The price is improving. However USB 3.0 HDDs are going for under $150 and have over 100MB per second throughput. Thunderbolt is hard to justify unless you have a MBA, 2011 MBP or 2011 iMac. Thunderbolt for a external RAID or SSD makes sense, but for HDD.. not so much if you can swing USB 3.0.

I'd pick one up though if it gets close to $200... since I have a 2011 MBP

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Wait! 1 Thunderbolt port, I'd pass. I'm not doing the monitor/drive swap thing That makes me sad.

The photo shows 3 stacked, USB 3.0 I guess. Thunderbolt is turning out to a sad joke for most consumers.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:37 PM   #8
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Thunderbolt pricing is improving.

As the article mentions, spinning drives cannot keep up but Thunderbolt does open the option doing a RAID across external drives and not being bus limited.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:43 PM   #9
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Even considering the inclusion of Thunderbolt cable, the drive is at least $100 overpriced. The fact is made worse considering USB 3.0 offers more than plenty speed for hard disks. Macs with USB 2.0 (but without FireWire) may benefit from this drive, but even still, I rather spring $29 for Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter and be done with it.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:56 PM   #10
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Still i wonder if this is a normal Thunderbolt cable or some sort of proprietary connector on one end and normal Thunderbolt on the other?
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 01:59 PM   #11
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Good to finally see Thunderbolt prices dropping. Maybe by the next time I'm in the market for a new drive I'll actually be able to afford TB. For now FW800 is fast enough for my editing and USB 2.0 is good enough for backups.

Edit: Unfortunately I also only just noticed the one thunderbolt port. Some of us need that second monitor and don't want to spend $1000 for the apple thunderbolt display. Daisy chain is a key.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 02:03 PM   #12
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I guess like any Mac you're paying for more than the basic specs, you pay for quality given the fact you can get USB3 drives from WD and Seagate at a fraction of the price and it will do just as good a job.

ETA - I'm looking at getting a 1.5Tb Seagate GoFlex with USB3 for less than $80AU to backup my 1Tb Fusion iMac when it gets here.

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Even considering the inclusion of Thunderbolt cable, the drive is at least $100 overpriced. The fact is made worse considering USB 3.0 offers more than plenty speed for hard disks. Macs with USB 2.0 (but without FireWire) may benefit from this drive, but even still, I rather spring $29 for Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter and be done with it.
I'm not sure there are many $199 drives that are going to deliver the metal chassis, kensington lock, software and more that the D2 lineup has.

Sure you can buy a cheap plastic drive at Best Buy but the D2 lineup has been pretty solid for Lacie over the years.
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I'm not sure there are many $199 drives that are going to deliver the metal chassis, kensington lock, software and more that the D2 lineup has.

Sure you can buy a cheap plastic drive at Best Buy but the D2 lineup has been pretty solid for Lacie over the years.
If LaCie gets around to selling an empty enclosure that is also easy to add your own disk, I would agree with you.
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Seems pretty good for the guy or gal that needs to shuttle lots of huge files between different computers - USB 3.0 for most PCs or Macs that have USB 2.0 or 3.0 interface, a likely scenario, or Thunderbolt if the computer has it. It's one drive that can do a lot; a desktop version of LaCie's Rugged USB 3.0 Thunderbolt drive.

Daisy-chain? NOT! But there are alternative drives that hold multiple drives that can benefit from the speed, and connect to other devices.

180MB/sec? Sure, I've seen this kind of performance from 3TB and 4TB drives when un-RAIDed inside the 2big Thunderbolt from LaCie that comes with 7200RPM drives. The Seagate and WD dual-drive enclosures come with slower 5400 RPM and green drives, so can't deliver that kind of speed from a single drive.

For USB performance, you'll be wanting to make sure that UAS is supported for the best possible performance when connected via USB 3.0. The LaCie drives in the Apple Store support this, so I suppose this one does too.

Don't have the dollars? Then pick up one of the less expensive USB3 drives from several vendors.

Good to see some improvements in the desktop drive space. Will have to see if the piggy bank can spring for this drive to add to the Thunderbolt collection. Nice to see that the Thunderbolt cable is included, too!
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 02:22 PM   #16
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I rather spring $29 for Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter and be done with it.
FireWire 800 gets you somewhere around 80-90MB/s, which is far slower than this drive.
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And another worthless thunderbolt device with only ONE TB port.

Sorry, I need to daisy chain my TB devices, Lacie.
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And another worthless thunderbolt device with only ONE TB port.

Sorry, I need to daisy chain my TB devices, Lacie.
Damn. Not a wise decision. It could be a limitation of the cheaper TB chipset.
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Empty enclosures, please! :-)
I'm waiting for Other World Computing to announce their Thunderbolt enclosures.
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The Thunderbolt "glacier" actually moved...
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Can't these be an external "Fusion" drive with the latest OSX? If so these drive boards should include a SSD stick slot in addition to whatever hard drives they might use to get price and capacity figures that sell drives.

Apple does not disclose plans giving them a near year first mover advantage, which they typically also squander while they prevent their third party ecosystems from implementing. TB is the superior example and Lightning is a close second.

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Did a 25 GB file transfer yesterday on what I presume was USB2 and it took 7 hours.
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Did a 25 GB file transfer yesterday on what I presume was USB2 and it took 7 hours.
Something is wrong with your USB drive.

A USB 2.0 hard drive should be able to transfer at 20 - 30MB/s... 25GB should only take ~30 minutes.

Were you transferring a lot of small files? If so, Thunderbolt won't help since random I/O is a bottleneck for mechanical drives.
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Something is wrong with your USB drive.

A USB 2.0 hard drive should be able to transfer at 20 - 30MB/s... 25GB should only take ~30 minutes.

Were you transferring a lot of small files? If so, Thunderbolt won't help since random I/O is a bottleneck for mechanical drives.
Maybe one of the two ends or the hub was USB1.
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Did a 25 GB file transfer yesterday on what I presume was USB2 and it took 7 hours.

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Something is wrong with your USB drive.

A USB 2.0 hard drive should be able to transfer at 20 - 30MB/s... 25GB should only take ~30 minutes.

Were you transferring a lot of small files? If so, Thunderbolt won't help since random I/O is a bottleneck for mechanical drives.

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Maybe one of the two ends or the hub was USB1.
That sounds likely.

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Performance comparison: Transfer of 25GB HD movie:

USB 1.1: 9.3 hours

USB 2.0: 13.9 minutes

USB 3.0: 70 seconds
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I routinely transfer that amount of data (36MP RAW + JPG images). If it took hours I would have given up long ago. I've since updated my card reader to USB 3.0 and love it.
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