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Old Dec 10, 2012, 12:10 AM   #1
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Apple's Massive New Hong Kong Store with 30-Foot Tall Glass Windows Leads Next Weekend's Grand Openings




Apple today officially revealed that its new Causeway Bay retail store at Hysan Place will open this Saturday, becoming the company's third store in Hong Kong. The new store is a massive flagship location, as evidenced by the company's use of "curtain" graphics on the facade as is typically reserved for Apple's most significant openings.


Panorama of Causeway Bay facade with "curtain" graphics (Thanks, Anson!)
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The new store will cover three levels and has been reported to encompass approximately 20,000 square feet of space, with the facade including 30-foot tall glass windows currently covered by the curtain graphics. Playing upon the large facade, Apple's tagline for the premiere is "An opening you simply can't miss."

The new Causeway Bay store is not the only location seeing a grand opening next weekend, as the MixC Chengdu store in Chengdu, China will also be opening on Saturday, December 15. Like the Causeway Bay store, the Chengdu store had previously been profiled as part of Apple's major retail store push into its Greater China market.

Apple is also opening its new Fountain Gate store near Melbourne, Australia on Saturday and will be Apple's fourth location in the state of Victoria.

Update: Apple will also be opening its Emporia store in Malmö, Sweden on Saturday, becoming the company's second store in the country exactly three months after the Täby Centrum store outside of Stockholm debuted.

Article Link: Apple's Massive New Hong Kong Store with 30-Foot Tall Glass Windows Leads Next Weekend's Grand Openings
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It makes SENSE that Apple is making such a HUGE push opening so many stores in ONE CITY given that Hong Kong offers Apple its HIGHEST PROFIT MARGINS in the world.

Why? Hong Kong Island is ONLY 26 miles away from the Foxconn plant in Shenzhen that assembles and packages Apple products.

So instead of shipping their products, say, 7,000 miles from Shenzhen, China to the western border of the US, with the shipping cost BUILT INTO the retail prices of their products, Apple just needs to send their products in a TRUCK for less than the hour commute between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.

AND ironically Apple products are MORE EXPENSIVE in Hong Kong than in the US, even further BOOSTING Apple's profit margin beyond just keeping what it saves on shipping.

And given that there is NO SALES TAX in Hong Kong, Apple doesn't have to ADJUST its retail prices in Hong Kong to accommodate sales taxes like it does in mainland China, so its profit margins are higher in Hong Kong than ANY OTHER major Chinese city.

And given Hong Kong shares a border with Shenzhen, there's less costs for Apple shipping to Hong Kong than to even mainland Chinese cities Shanghai or Beijing.

So for all the people complaining that Apple is screwing them with their high prices for Chinese made goods, just take note of the fact that Apple is SCREWING THE CHINESE even more!
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It makes SENSE that Apple is making such a HUGE push opening so many stores in ONE CITY given that Hong Kong offers Apple its HIGHEST PROFIT MARGINS in the world.

Why? Hong Kong Island is ONLY 26 miles away from the Foxconn plant in Shenzhen that assembles and packages Apple products.

So instead of shipping their products, say, 7,000 miles from Shenzhen, China to the western border of the US, with the shipping cost BUILT INTO the retail prices of their products, Apple just needs to send their products in a TRUCK for less than the hour commute between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.

AND ironically Apple products are MORE EXPENSIVE in Hong Kong than in the US, even further BOOSTING Apple's profit margin beyond just keeping what it saves on shipping.

And given that there is NO SALES TAX in Hong Kong, Apple doesn't have to ADJUST its retail prices in Hong Kong to accommodate sales taxes like it does in mainland China, so its profit margins are higher in Hong Kong than ANY OTHER major Chinese city.

And given Hong Kong shares a border with Shenzhen, there's less costs for Apple shipping to Hong Kong than to even mainland Chinese cities Shanghai or Beijing.

So for all the people complaining that Apple is screwing them with their high prices for Chinese made goods, just take note of the fact that Apple is SCREWING THE CHINESE even more!
Apple products are not more expensive in Hong Kong except the iPhone 5 (its price was raised for 10% in HK compared with 4S). Hong Kong doesn't have any sort of VAT or sales tax, while Apple US prices are ex-tax and you need to add back the VAT/sales tax on the listed prices.

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Apple products are actually cheaper here than they are in the USA, check their website if you don't believe me.
As mentioned Hong Kong doesn't have any sales tax so what you see is what you pay unlike the US Store, with the unfortunate exception of the iPhone 5 which Apple deliberately raised the price from HK$5088 to HK$5588 (~10% increase) while the unlocked US units stay at the same price.

Here are some examples (all US prices are ex-tax!)

iPad 4 WiFi 16GB: HK$3888 = US $501 / c.f. US$499 ex-tax
MacBook Pro with Retina Display 15-inch = HK$16,888 = $2179 ex-tax (HK is $20 cheaper)
iMac 21.5inch = HK$9888 = US $1,275 ex-tax (HK is $24 cheaper)
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 02:28 AM   #6
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Apple products are not more expensive in Hong Kong except the iPhone 5 (its price was raised for 10% in HK compared with 4S). Hong Kong doesn't have any sort of VAT or sales tax, while Apple US prices are ex-tax and you need to add back the VAT/sales tax on the listed prices.

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As mentioned Hong Kong doesn't have any sales tax so what you see is what you pay unlike the US Store, with the unfortunate exception of the iPhone 5 which Apple deliberately raised the price from HK$5088 to HK$5588 (~10% increase) while the unlocked US units stay at the same price.

Here are some examples (all US prices are ex-tax!)

iPad 4 WiFi 16GB: HK$3888 = US $501 / c.f. US$499 ex-tax
MacBook Pro with Retina Display 15-inch = HK$16,888 = $2179 ex-tax (HK is $20 cheaper)
iMac 21.5inch = HK$9888 = US $1,275 ex-tax (HK is $24 cheaper)
WRONG! Not only did I list EXAMPLES (as in PLURAL) where Apple products are MORE EXPENSIVE in Hong Kong than in the US, but YOU DID AS WELL!

Look at your OWN listing for iPad 4.

So please EXPLAIN how "Apple products are not more expensive in Hong Kong except the iPhone 5"???

And yes, I was RIGHT that Hong Kong DOES NOT have a sales tax, but you MISSED the WHOLE POINT I mentioned it which is the fact that the rest of mainland China DOES have a sales tax.

And given Apple is actually charging LESS for its products in mainland China than in Hong Kong once the sales tax is removed from the retail price, that means Apple has an even HIGHER PROFIT MARGIN in Hong Kong than it does in the REST of CHINA.

This is also why I mentioned the proximity of Shenzhen, where Apple products are assembled and packaged, to Hong Kong given than Hong Kong is even CLOSER to Shenzhen than the rest of mainland China, even though Hong Kong technically is NOT part of "mainland China', but rather a "special administrative region" of the PRC.

And how does ANY of your "arguments" address my POINT which is "It makes SENSE that Apple is making such a HUGE push opening so many stores in ONE CITY given that Hong Kong offers Apple its HIGHEST PROFIT MARGINS in the world"?
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It makes SENSE that Apple is making such a HUGE push opening so many stores in ONE CITY given that Hong Kong offers Apple its HIGHEST PROFIT MARGINS in the world.

Why? Hong Kong Island is ONLY 26 miles away from the Foxconn plant in Shenzhen that assembles and packages Apple products.

So instead of shipping their products, say, 7,000 miles from Shenzhen, China to the western border of the US, with the shipping cost BUILT INTO the retail prices of their products, Apple just needs to send their products in a TRUCK for less than the hour commute between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.

AND ironically Apple products are MORE EXPENSIVE in Hong Kong than in the US, even further BOOSTING Apple's profit margin beyond just keeping what it saves on shipping.

And given that there is NO SALES TAX in Hong Kong, Apple doesn't have to ADJUST its retail prices in Hong Kong to accommodate sales taxes like it does in mainland China, so its profit margins are higher in Hong Kong than ANY OTHER major Chinese city.

And given Hong Kong shares a border with Shenzhen, there's less costs for Apple shipping to Hong Kong than to even mainland Chinese cities Shanghai or Beijing.

So for all the people complaining that Apple is screwing them with their high prices for Chinese made goods, just take note of the fact that Apple is SCREWING THE CHINESE even more!
Don't use CAPITAL LETTERS so much, it looks REALLY LAME!!!!111!!
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It makes SENSE that Apple is making such a HUGE push opening so many stores in ONE CITY given that Hong Kong offers Apple its HIGHEST PROFIT MARGINS in the world.

Why? Hong Kong Island is ONLY 26 miles away from the Foxconn plant in Shenzhen that assembles and packages Apple products.

So instead of shipping their products, say, 7,000 miles from Shenzhen, China to the western border of the US, with the shipping cost BUILT INTO the retail prices of their products, Apple just needs to send their products in a TRUCK for less than the hour commute between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.

AND ironically Apple products are MORE EXPENSIVE in Hong Kong than in the US, even further BOOSTING Apple's profit margin beyond just keeping what it saves on shipping.

And given that there is NO SALES TAX in Hong Kong, Apple doesn't have to ADJUST its retail prices in Hong Kong to accommodate sales taxes like it does in mainland China, so its profit margins are higher in Hong Kong than ANY OTHER major Chinese city.

And given Hong Kong shares a border with Shenzhen, there's less costs for Apple shipping to Hong Kong than to even mainland Chinese cities Shanghai or Beijing.

So for all the people complaining that Apple is screwing them with their high prices for Chinese made goods, just take note of the fact that Apple is SCREWING THE CHINESE even more!
I hate this Apple policy. Greedy outside the USA!

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It makes SENSE that Apple is making such a HUGE push opening so many stores in ONE CITY given that Hong Kong offers Apple its HIGHEST PROFIT MARGINS in the world.

Why? Hong Kong Island is ONLY 26 miles away from the Foxconn plant in Shenzhen that assembles and packages Apple products.

So instead of shipping their products, say, 7,000 miles from Shenzhen, China to the western border of the US, with the shipping cost BUILT INTO the retail prices of their products, Apple just needs to send their products in a TRUCK for less than the hour commute between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.

AND ironically Apple products are MORE EXPENSIVE in Hong Kong than in the US, even further BOOSTING Apple's profit margin beyond just keeping what it saves on shipping.

And given that there is NO SALES TAX in Hong Kong, Apple doesn't have to ADJUST its retail prices in Hong Kong to accommodate sales taxes like it does in mainland China, so its profit margins are higher in Hong Kong than ANY OTHER major Chinese city.

And given Hong Kong shares a border with Shenzhen, there's less costs for Apple shipping to Hong Kong than to even mainland Chinese cities Shanghai or Beijing.

So for all the people complaining that Apple is screwing them with their high prices for Chinese made goods, just take note of the fact that Apple is SCREWING THE CHINESE even more!
Looking at your past posts, you clearly hate Apple - question: is this a hobby for you to frequent MacRumors and bash Apple and others? It's quite transparent.
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Looking at your past posts, you clearly hate Apple - question: is this a hobby for you to frequent MacRumors and bash Apple and others? It's quite transparent.
Yes, I hate Apple so much I've had numerous MacBooks, 2 iPads, every iPhone that's come out, numerous iPods, and various Apple and Mac desktops throughout the years since the Apple 2+ including the Lisa and the ORIGINAL Macintosh.

If I mentioned Lemonade Stand, you'd have NO CLUE what I was talking about, would you? What was YOUR first Apple product, the iPod mini?

But oh, if anyone says anything FACTUAL about Apple, they must HATE Apple right?

WRONG! It's called "thinking for yourself". You should try that sometime.

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It makes SENSE that Apple is making such a HUGE push opening so many stores in ONE CITY given that Hong Kong offers Apple its HIGHEST PROFIT MARGINS in the world.
While you may be right, China is the largest market in the world, and Hong Kong is one of the most dense cities on the planet. So there are several compelling reasons why any tech company would want to make a flagship store in Hong Kong.

Foxconn makes the Wii U, XBox 360, and PS3. Nintendo Wii U is made in Senzhen and Nintendo has an office in Hong Kong http://www.nintendo.com.hk/ I wonder if there is any relation there.

Pegatron in Taiwan makes Microsoft Surface, and soon Taiwan will have Microsoft Surface, at $91 higher than US retail price ($590 vs 499), even though the plant is right next store http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-s...2&MainCatID=11
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While you may be right, China is the largest market in the world, and Hong Kong is one of the most dense cities on the planet. So there are several compelling reasons why any tech company would want to make a flagship store in Hong Kong.

Foxconn makes the Wii U, XBox 360, and PS3. Nintendo Wii U is made in Senzhen and Nintendo has an office in Hong Kong http://www.nintendo.com.hk/ I wonder if there is any relation there.

Pegatron in Taiwan makes Microsoft Surface, and soon Taiwan will have Microsoft Surface, at $91 higher than US retail price ($590 vs 499), even though the plant is right next store http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-s...2&MainCatID=11
WRONG! Apple is opening its THIRD store in Hong Kong, not just one, and the reasons I've stated are ABSOLUTELY valid.

China is also NOT "the largest market in the world" for Apple, that would be the US. In fact, Apple is currently only the SIXTH best-selling smartphone brand in China. Samsung, of course, is number 1 in China (and the world for that matter), but Apple is even being beat by local Chinese smartphone companies like Coolpad and ZTE.

Plus, I was clearly drawing a distinction between Hong Kong and mainland China given Hong Kong gets not only a DIFFERENT pricing structure for Apple products from China, but also a different RELEASE SCHEDULE. In fact, Apple considers them to be SEPARATE markets, as do MOST tech companies.

But you wouldn't know that would you because you've clearly demonstrated you have NO CLUE what you're talking about with regards to Hong Kong, China or anything else for that matter.
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Yeah, really.. closest apple store to me is a 6 hr drive.
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Wow, can't help but wonder when the saturation point will be reached. They're obviously not there yet, especially in emerging markets such as China, India, Brazil and Russia, to name a few.
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The store might be in your country and your city, but apple will be dodging taxes that would normally go towards improving your country and city, via another country and city.

Of course they are far from the only multinational following this practice but that doesn't make them exempt from criticism, nor the fact that they make keeewwwl iStuff.

Next time some of us *wonder* how come half the world is steeped in famine and disease, 1/4 is barely getting buy, and the "developed" 1/4 is mostly in a deep financial depression, we might want to have a look at all this capital of multinational companies flying around the world via loopholes....
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They should really see about putting at least ONE in each of the US states before putting more in Hong Kong, though I am not complaining one bit.

We got one here in Alaska.
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These are cool, but we could use a few more of these iconic stores back at home in the U.S. I don't think there are any fancy Apple stores within 1000 miles of me. But honestly I'd take just a regular Apple Store that isn't 130 miles away. The one in Best Buy just doesn't cut it.

However, I can see the importance of such stores in places like China. No copycat stores can pull off these landmark structures. You know these are legit!
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Still waiting for a flagship superstore here in the city of Melbourne. Unfortunately, from what I've read, Apple are EXTREMELY particular about the criteria for such a building, and as yet there are no feasible locations.

A bummer, for sure, particularly after seeing the flagship stores in Paris, London, and Japan, one here in Melbourne would be just dandy. And no worries finding popularity, as the other 3 Apple stores in the suburbs of Melbourne are ALWAYS packed, with the stores themselves looking rather small.

Anyhow, for now, go Fountain Gate.
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These are cool, but we could use a few more of these iconic stores back at home in the U.S. I don't think there are any fancy Apple stores within 1000 miles of me. But honestly I'd take just a regular Apple Store that isn't 130 miles away. The one in Best Buy just doesn't cut it.

However, I can see the importance of such stores in places like China. No copycat stores can pull off these landmark structures. You know these are legit!
Apple's working on the highest traffic areas first I'd imagine. Someday we'll all have an Apple Store next door.
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These are cool, but we could use a few more of these iconic stores back at home in the U.S. I don't think there are any fancy Apple stores within 1000 miles of me. But honestly I'd take just a regular Apple Store that isn't 130 miles away. The one in Best Buy just doesn't cut it.

However, I can see the importance of such stores in places like China. No copycat stores can pull off these landmark structures. You know these are legit!
I haven't seen any copycat Apple Stores in Hong Kong. It was in western part of mainland China.
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AND ironically Apple products are MORE EXPENSIVE in Hong Kong than in the US, even further BOOSTING Apple's profit margin beyond just keeping what it saves on shipping.

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Apple products are actually cheaper here than they are in the USA, check their website if you don't believe me.
HK apple products are cheapest in the world. did you even do any research before making outlandish comments?

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And given that there is NO SALES TAX in Hong Kong, Apple doesn't have to ADJUST its retail prices in Hong Kong to accommodate sales taxes like it does in mainland China, so its profit margins are higher in Hong Kong than ANY OTHER major Chinese city.
... sales tax is added before the price is advertised, unlike in america (where the consumer sees it).

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And given Hong Kong shares a border with Shenzhen, there's less costs for Apple shipping to Hong Kong than to even mainland Chinese cities Shanghai or Beijing.
errr, have you any idea how hostile it is between China and Hong Kong?.....
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HK apple products are cheapest in the world. did you even do any research before making outlandish comments?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! "HK apple products are cheapest in the world""??? You are CLUELESS. Read my previous post with LINKS completely disproving your "outlandish comment".

YOU are the one that should do some "research" before completely EMBARRASSING yourself!


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... sales tax is added before the price is advertised, unlike in america (where the consumer sees it).
WRONG AGAIN! There is NO SALES TAX in Hong Kong other than on alcohol and cigarettes.

http://www.discoverhongkong.com/nz/p...-questions.jsp

Seriously, do some fact-checking before making yourself look like a TOTAL JOKE!


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errr, have you any idea how hostile it is between China and Hong Kong?.....


Are you SERIOUS???? Hong Kong is a PART OF CHINA!!!! Wow. The ignorance on this thread (and by extension this ENTIRE BOARD) is ASTOUNDING. You TRULY are an embarrassment to us Apple users.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong

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Don't use CAPITAL LETTERS so much, it looks REALLY LAME!!!!111!!
Not as LAME as not knowing how to USE the SHIFT KEY. What on earth is "!!!!111!!"?

And why NINE "attempted" exclamation marks? That's way more LAME than using capitalization for EMPHASIS.
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errr, have you any idea how hostile it is between China and Hong Kong?.....
Hong Kong became a part of China (PRC). You are confusing HK with Taiwan.
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Hong Kong became a part of China (PRC). You are confusing HK with Taiwan.
Interesting discussion here made me register an account.

For those who are interested in this topic:

Professor at City University of Hong Kong wrote: "Hong Kong-Mainland Tension on the Brink of Explosion"
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