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Old Dec 11, 2012, 11:24 PM   #1
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Retina Macbook Air [ Will it happen on 2013? ]

Title says it all. Dunno whether to buy now or wait for it in June, imagine haswell with retina. Pretty sweet.
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 11:28 PM   #2
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Hope it will be available soon
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 11:35 PM   #3
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 12:04 AM   #4
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Yeah, and I hope they wouldn't charge $1499 for a base model eleven inch with 64 gigabyte ssd. that will be too funny.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 12:11 AM   #5
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If you're expecting a 13" MB retina in a macbook air body, just expect the price to be unreasonable.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 12:11 AM   #6
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Yeah, and I hope they wouldn't charge $1499 for a base model eleven inch with 64 gigabyte ssd. that will be too funny.
Im expecting 1,500$ for the 13inch base more likely with 256gb but probable of 128gb since the ssd price has been really going down.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 12:32 AM   #7
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Im expecting 1,500$ for the 13inch base more likely with 256gb but probable of 128gb since the ssd price has been really going down.
If that's really the case, those that bought the base model thirteen pro retina will feel a bit shafted. Lol
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:35 AM   #8
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Not any time soon

I dont really think the MBA will get retina till late 2014 simply because it would need total reengineering like they did with the rMBP and the actual screen thinness of the rMBP it is thicker than the MBA. So therefore it will take to much money into the research and to be honest with you its not even worth it to have retina on a air you would need a power house to benefit from a retina i mean with the features on the air is not sufficient to do any thing intense but on the pro you and do intense work e.g. programming photoshop.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:39 AM   #9
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I'd rather a faster CPU and larger SSD for the same price. 1440x900 is sufficient for productivity. Retina introduces a whole host of new problems, and the value just isn't there on non-touch devices at this stage.

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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:49 AM   #10
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That is not a significant jump in resolution. Also, notice the review actually says "it's a bit squinty for my eyes" ..

Also that review is funny to me, it's basically saying if you want a Macbook Air but are over 40 and are convinced that you need windows, and for some reason don't want to get an MBA and install Windows on it, this is the laptop that you have been waiting 3 long years for. Except it's also a lot more money than an MBA and made out of plastic, and several months later to market. With a way worse SSD.

I mean, come on. I can't believe you actually referenced that lol

Lighter and thinner than a 13 MBA. Better resolution. Matte screen. Offers a 15in size.

It also sells for a comparable price to a comparable MBA. I mean come on. I can't believe you didn't know that. Lol


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That's speed-talk. I'm just trying to say that people are having expectations that are way to high. I'm loving the display on my air, very low glare and high-res. For my usage I don't need a "retina".

If you don't want to see pixels, get your eyes off the screen and sit back 30cm.

And for those that REALY need the extremely high resolution, ok, you deserve a "retina" display. But that's maybe 3-5% of all the users?
When Tim Cook comes out and shows off the rMBA you will be one of the fanboys gawking at how amazing it is. Might as well start now.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 03:29 PM   #11
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Lighter and thinner than a 13 MBA. Better resolution. Matte screen. Offers a 15in size.

It also sells for a comparable price to a comparable MBA. I mean come on. I can't believe you didn't know that. Lol


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3285.html




When Tim Cook comes out and shows off the rMBA you will be one of the fanboys gawking at how amazing it is. Might as well start now.
Haha, I'm sure that's not going to happen I don't believe in "retina".
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 03:41 PM   #12
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Lighter and thinner than a 13 MBA. Better resolution. Matte screen. Offers a 15in size.

It also sells for a comparable price to a comparable MBA. I mean come on. I can't believe you didn't know that. Lol

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3285.html

When Tim Cook comes out and shows off the rMBA you will be one of the fanboys gawking at how amazing it is. Might as well start now.
The Samsung Series 9 doesn't have anything close to a Retina Display. It has the same vertical resolution as a MBA, with a 11% higher horizontal resolution due to the fact that it uses a 16:9 screen instead of 16:10.

The day a Retina MacBook Air comes out will be amazing, because it'll have 300% more pixels, not 11%. That's quite a big difference. Oh and it'll also probably be IPS, like all Retina Displays in the past.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 03:58 PM   #13
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Will haswell only come on Q3 2013 for the mobile? Then Q2 for the desktop processors?
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The Samsung Series 9 doesn't have anything close to a Retina Display. It has the same vertical resolution as a MBA, with a 11% higher horizontal resolution due to the fact that it uses a 16:9 screen instead of 16:10.

The day a Retina MacBook Air comes out will be amazing, because it'll have 300% more pixels, not 11%. That's quite a big difference. Oh and it'll also probably be IPS, like all Retina Displays in the past.
The new (prototype) Samsung 9 ultrabook will offer 2560x1440 in 13.3". That is 221 ppi which is comparable to the 15" rMBP at 220 ppi and 14" rMBP at 227 ppi. All in a form factor lighter and thinner than a 13" MBA.

Sure is better than anything Apple has offered to date with MBA.
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The new (prototype) Samsung 9 ultrabook will offer 2560x1440 in 13.3". That is 221 ppi which is comparable to the 15" rMBP at 220 ppi and 14" rMBP at 227 ppi. All in a form factor lighter and thinner than a 13" MBA.

Sure is better than anything Apple has offered to date with MBA.
Sure, but you're comparing an existing product to a prototype. It's not even a product that has been announced but hasn't released yet, it's a prototype. I'm comparing two existing products.

Apple doesn't show its prototypes. The fact that Samsung chose to build up hype buy showing theirs doesn't mean that Apple won't be first to market an ultrabook-type computer with Retina resolution.

If that happens, it would be normal to be impressed by them, fanboy or not.

I'm still not sure your original comment saying "Might as well start now." was referring to the current Samsung Series 9, I may have read that wrong.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 04:55 PM   #16
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The rMBP is essentially an ultrabook. It is only slightly heavier than an air and the air is only like .07" thinner. The 13" rMPB actually has a smaller footprint than a 13" MBA. So anyone that wants an ultraportable laptop with retina screen can get one right now. There would be way too much crossover to offer a retina on the MBA. The specs are practically identical to what you can get in a MBA beyond the screen. MBA are going to remain the entry level into the mac laptop world. If they actually do this I can imagine the threads now. $1700 13" rMBA vs $1700 13" rMBP.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 05:28 PM   #17
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Btw, look how glossy the Apple screen is compared to the Samsung. I hope Apple offers matte screen in the future. I know they probably won't.
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Btw, look how glossy the Apple screen is compared to the Samsung. I hope Apple offers matte screen in the future. I know they probably won't.
I am a lover of matte screens as well but that battle was already lost. Standard consumers love the gloss screens with deep blacks despite the downside of glare. Non-glare is only offered on the pro line and I doubt that will change. I wish it were different.
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I want this more than anything, but I the more I think about it the more I realize it won't happen for a while. The 11 inch may also not be introduced until a few months after the 13 inch, like what happened with the rMBPs.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:16 PM   #21
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Its not coming that soon.
It is, and i bet they would steppen the power from macbook pro retina so that they can differentiate the difference between rMBA and rMBP when it comes out.
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It is, and i bet they would steppen the power from macbook pro retina so that they can differentiate the difference between rMBA and rMBP when it comes out.
I dont think Apple can sufficiently give a Macbook Air a retina display just yet. The current 13 rMBP suffers from lag, and a very steep price, for internals very similar to a current Air. I can see Apple making the Pro's more powerful next year, but they will leave the Macbook Air's as the affordable, consumer model. I expect a big battery jump for the next Airs, however
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 08:36 PM   #23
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It is a curious question you ask about a retina 13" Air. It seems the screen might be too power hungry for the Air form factor and too big and yet I get the feeling that Apple eventually wants retina on everything so ... who knows? It's a good question though, makes me wonder.
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They're not looking to make their 13' Retina Pro irrelevant. If it happens, it'll be $1700+.
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What I'm interested in is not having a higher resolution - at all - but rather having more screen real estate.
With the rmbp's (as far as I know) you have the option of either going with ultra crispy regular size (where each pixel is quadrupled) or ultra small content on the screen (with quadrupled screen real estate).

I'm interested in neither because as far as I'm concerned the mba already has a plenty crisp screen (I'm not interested in using more of my rare graphics performance for improving this marginally).
While quadrupling the real estate would make everything so small as to making it hard to read (and I wouldn't want to use my already limited graphics performance on that either - I'd consider it a downgrade).

What I would be interested in is a larger screen - that could be the best thing ever - the bezel for our 13" screen is huge - if we could gain an inch or two of screen there that would be freaking epic but even if that wasn't possible just increasing the resolution to like 1600 x 900 preferably or perhaps even 1920 x 1080 would be great - because we would get a crispier display but also more screen real estate.

It shouldn't be either crispier display or more real estate and it should not come at such a high performance cost - but give us a smaller increase in BOTH at the same time - which would actually come at a much lower performance cost - as far as I know anyway.

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It shouldn't be:
sharpness (improved marginally) x real estate (unchanged) x content size (unchanged) x graphics cost (worsened severely)
or
sharpness (improved marginally) x real estate (improved greatly) x content size (worsened severely) x graphics cost (worsened severely)
but
sharpness (improved or unchanged) x real estate (improved reasonably) x content size (decreased responsibly) x graphics cost (worsened slightly)

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