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Old Dec 12, 2012, 04:23 AM   #1
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iPad 4 image retention

Hi all,

My iPad 4 seems to be having image retention issues. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem due to the LG display, so would anyone care to try this and confirm/deny? This is only for iPad 4 users.

Download the attached PNG (it's a screen from Letterpress, since that particular grey seems to highlight the problem particularly well) and load it into Photos on your iPad 4. Zoom in on it a bit to get rid of the text and make the whole screen grey.

Then, eitherů

1. Load the App Store and just leave it sitting on the front page for a couple of minutes without moving it at all, or...

2. Load Chrome and leave it on screen for a couple of minutes.

Then, flip back to the grey picture (get rid of Photo's top and bottom bars to make it fill the screen). Do you see retention of either the app icons from the App Store, or the URL bar and tab top from Chrome?

Post your results!

Cheers,

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Old Dec 12, 2012, 06:20 AM   #2
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Hi, I went through your test with iPad 4 (LG screen) as well as iPad 3 (Samsung).

Well, I can fully confirm screen "burn in" effect on iPad 4.

iPad 3, on the opposite side, had none.

Thanks for submitting that issue, - you made my decision about whether to keep the iPad 3 or stick with iPad 4 very easy: I will return the iPad 4 and stick with 3 waiting for IGZO next iteration.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 06:42 AM   #3
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is it just image retention? or is it actual burn in you are experiencing? I could live with retention b.c that does not last long at all, but that is really bad if it is burning in. Honestly, I would not be surprised at all by retention. I guess I always buy plasma's so I have seen retention a lot of the years and even if I leave a still image on screen for 30+ minutes it goes away after about 5
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 08:57 PM   #4
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Hi, I went through your test with iPad 4 (LG screen) as well as iPad 3 (Samsung).

Well, I can fully confirm screen "burn in" effect on iPad 4.

iPad 3, on the opposite side, had none.

Thanks for submitting that issue, - you made my decision about whether to keep the iPad 3 or stick with iPad 4 very easy: I will return the iPad 4 and stick with 3 waiting for IGZO next iteration.
How can you tell which company manufactured the screen? Is it just judging by their traits (e.g. image retention means it's probably an LG) or is there a definitive way to find out the manufacturer?
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 05:34 AM   #5
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does ipad mini have this problem?
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 02:32 PM   #6
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My iPad4 has it, but it's so minor, really had to look hard for the Chrome address bar, and when I saw it it was quickly fading away. Nothing major , IMO.
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 02:33 PM   #7
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Definitely nothing to sweat too much IMO.

Laptops I could see why it's more of a nuisance though
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Old Jun 7, 2013, 07:40 AM   #8
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my ipad got that problem too, i just surfing the web and the statusbar and the safari tabs got burn in. here the picture : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
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Old Jun 8, 2013, 10:56 PM   #9
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Turn your screen brightness down this will help.
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Old Jul 11, 2013, 03:47 PM   #10
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Turn your screen brightness down this will help.
No it won't. The image retention has to do with the TFT part of the display. The backlight has no effect on image retention.
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Old Jul 11, 2013, 03:45 PM   #11
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does ipad mini have this problem?
Yep. I've tested a brand new iPad mini with this http://www.marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html 2 minutes and I've got the chess squares imprinted on the grey.

My iPad 2 does the same.
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 12:01 PM   #12
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Tried two demo display iPad 4's at best buy. Both of them had IR

AND... The display iPad mini did as well.
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 12:07 PM   #13
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I've always had this problem on my iPad 2.
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 09:03 AM   #14
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How can you tell which company manufactured the screen? Is it just judging by their traits (e.g. image retention means it's probably an LG) or is there a definitive way to find out the manufacturer?
ipad 3 display are made by samsung
ipad 4 display are made by lg
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 09:45 AM   #15
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ipad 3 display are made by samsung
ipad 4 display are made by lg
Apple typically uses multiple display suppliers (like Samsung, LG, Sharp, etc.) and they are picked and used at random depending on stock and availability. While you can try to guess which one you have by color temperature (based on previous posts and complaint patterns here), it's impossible to know for sure unless you take the iPad apart.
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 09:59 AM   #16
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Yep I have it on my ipad 4 . Not a big issue though really. Doesn't affect my general use
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Old Dec 24, 2012, 12:14 PM   #17
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I can confirm I have this, too! I've tested iPads I've come across in stores, and virtually all of them have some degree of image retention.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 05:53 PM   #18
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Not seeing it on my iPad 4 but do have a duller edge.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 07:40 AM   #19
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Oh, it's definitely just retention (so far!), as it goes away after a few minutes. I'm betting they all do it, thanks to LG's crappy screens.

Between this and my green-for-2-seconds-on-waking iPhone 5, my eyes have never been so disappointed in Apple.

Anyone else tried the grey screen test?
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 08:24 AM   #20
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Well, it seem to be a retention, but I did that experiment with drawn bold black test for about 10 minutes... Result: see for yourself.

20 minutes later I can still read it clearly!

It is very dissapointing, since iPad 3 in the same test had nothing at all...

I will bring it back an buy a mini to make the waiting time for the iPad 5 / retina mini somewhat sweeter.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 08:41 AM   #21
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My iPad 4 does the same thing, but it's only on grey background and it only stays several minutes or, at most, a few hours. I just can't notice it in real use, so who cares?
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 09:30 AM   #22
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My iPad 4 does the same thing, but it's only on grey background and it only stays several minutes or, at most, a few hours. I just can't notice it in real use, so who cares?
Well, it's not the end of the world, obviously, but given that I've owned every other model of iPad in the past and not had it happen with any of them, it's also not a 'good thing', is it? I'm not about to start marching up and down with a placard outside my local Apple Store or anything, but I don't have to be happy about it, either.

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Old Dec 15, 2012, 10:43 AM   #23
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I ran your test -- I saw virtually no letter retention. I opened the App Store, left it on screen for a couple minutes then switched back to the grey image that you provided up close -- no image retention.

My brightness is set around 45 - 50
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 03:52 AM   #24
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Hi all,

My iPad 4 seems to be having image retention issues. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem due to the LG display, so would anyone care to try this and confirm/deny? This is only for iPad 4 users.

Download the attached PNG (it's a screen from Letterpress, since that particular grey seems to highlight the problem particularly well) and load it into Photos on your iPad 4. Zoom in on it a bit to get rid of the text and make the whole screen grey.

Then, eitherů

1. Load the App Store and just leave it sitting on the front page for a couple of minutes without moving it at all, or...

2. Load Chrome and leave it on screen for a couple of minutes.

Then, flip back to the grey picture (get rid of Photo's top and bottom bars to make it fill the screen). Do you see retention of either the app icons from the App Store, or the URL bar and tab top from Chrome?

Post your results!

Cheers,

SB
How do you know you have an LG display?
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 06:48 AM   #25
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I did the test, and there's no image retention on my ipad 4.
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