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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:21 PM   #1
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Did Apple Get Exactly What it Wanted for Users in Google Maps Spat?




The Loop reader Keith Huss shared an interesting look at how the Apple Maps fiasco actually turned out really well for end users, now that Google Maps has gone live on iOS.

In the end, Apple has gotten exactly what it wanted for its users when it introduced its own mapping solution: turn-by-turn directions and lots of choice in mapping. Additionally, Apple is prominently displaying third-party map apps on the App Store (with Google Maps at the front), and delivering perhaps the best maps experience on mobile.

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Situation: Apple cannot get Google to update its maps app on iOS. It was ok, but Google refused to update it to include turn-by-turn directions or voice guidance even though Android had these features forever. Apple says, "Enough" and boots Gmaps from iOS and replaces it with an admittedly half-baked replacement. The world groans. Apple has egg on its face. Google steps up it's game and rolls out a new, free new maps app in iOS today that is totally amazing, I'm sure to stick it in Apple's face... Ooops.

Bottom line: Apple took one for the team (ate some ****) and fooled Google into doing exactly what Apple has been asking for years. Users win.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:23 PM   #2
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Strat-e-gery....
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:25 PM   #3
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It's good for all.

The simple (read native) solution is to use the built in Maps app. For those that love Google products they can download. I'm sure that developers will implement a link to GM if it's installed in some apps.

Both Apple Maps and Google Maps will be divergent and Apple will be free to take their technology down the path they prefer and likewise for Google.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:25 PM   #4
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"Bottom line: Apple took one for the team (ate some ****) and fooled Google into doing exactly what Apple has been asking for years."

Sure. And Ping was just a way to get Facebook to update their iOS app.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:28 PM   #5
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Or they hated Google and wanted to get rid of everything Google on their phone
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:29 PM   #6
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this is a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:28 PM   #7
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Allow users to set a default mapping solution, so when I ask Siri for directions she pulls up Google Maps instead of Crapple Maps, THEN I'll believe this was all planned.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 07:41 PM   #8
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Allow users to set a default mapping solution, so when I ask Siri for directions she pulls up Google Maps instead of Crapple Maps, THEN I'll believe this was all planned.
i don't think there's an api to allow SIRI to understand how to control third party software.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 02:50 PM   #9
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Allow users to set a default mapping solution, so when I ask Siri for directions she pulls up Google Maps instead of Crapple Maps, THEN I'll believe this was all planned.
This right here!
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 04:20 PM   #10
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I've just realised that I've been sucked into a debate that has no basis in fact and actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

Having said that I'm staggered that this article was written so far away from April 1.


Let's be clear, it's nice google have updated and improved their app. It's better than apples. But Apple is not a club, there for the benefit of its members, rather its a commercial enterprise looking to enhance shareholder value. How did this fiasco help that?
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:29 PM   #11
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The spin is priceless.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:31 PM   #12
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Why can't they get along?
I love Google products on my iOS devices!

They make a great team, if you ask me
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:34 PM   #13
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Or they hated Google and wanted to get rid of everything Google on their phone
Which is why they approved the Google Maps for iOS!

Oh, wait...

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this is a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.
I'm less sure than you are. I have been thinking about this, it's certainly plausible.

Whether it was smart (if they did indeed plan to do this) is another question. Google could have simply not participated, for one.

Interesting, strategery indeed (yeah, that's a word now, I hate it).
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 09:49 PM   #14
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Why can't they get along?
I love Google products on my iOS devices!

They make a great team, if you ask me
But greedy Google just wants to eat Apple's iOS' market share.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 11:45 AM   #15
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The spin is priceless.
But, isn't that exactly what happened?

1. Google's support for iOS lagged Android.
2. Apple boots Google.
3. Three months later, Google's support for iOS is better than for Android.

It seems pretty obvious that 2 was a direct cause of 3.

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There is no way that this is what apple meant to happen. People got fired as a result of their failure.

No one plans to fire people so that they encourage a competitor to create and deliver a better product than their own. No one.
People got fired because Apple Maps sucked. No one got fired because Google upped its iOS game.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 02:27 PM   #16
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But, isn't that exactly what happened?

1. Google's support for iOS lagged Android.
2. Apple boots Google.
3. Three months later, Google's support for iOS is better than for Android.

It seems pretty obvious that 2 was a direct cause of 3.[COLOR="#808080"]
Despite what a couple articles say about the iOS/android maps apps, I would never say the iOS one is better. Why?

OS integration. Many of the features of Jelly Bean that I love are because of this integration. I search for a place online before I leave the house and its there in the maps app or the now dashboard without me asking for it.

Naturally, the interfaces will be different because of the core differences in the OS interface.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 11:14 PM   #17
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But, isn't that exactly what happened?

1. Google's support for iOS lagged Android.
2. Apple boots Google.
3. Three months later, Google's support for iOS is better than for Android.

It seems pretty obvious that 2 was a direct cause of 3.

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People got fired because Apple Maps sucked. No one got fired because Google upped its iOS game.
Once everyone realizes it's All Publicity. You'll all relax. Apple is really smart that headlines is king! Antenna gate! That was so hilarious How Jobs gave bumpers away for free, and people don't remember Apple for their bad iPhone 4! Hahaha ... They keep themselves relevant through everything so we can all keep talking a out them. It's show biz...

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Once everyone realizes it's All Publicity. You'll all relax. Apple is really smart that headlines is king! Antenna gate! That was so hilarious How Jobs gave bumpers away for free, and people don't remember apple for their bad iPhone 4! Hahaha ... They keep themselves relevant through everything so we can all keep talking a out them. It's show biz...
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 04:11 PM   #18
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"Bottom line: Apple took one for the team (ate some ****) and fooled Google into doing exactly what Apple has been asking for years."

Sure. And Ping was just a way to get Facebook to update their iOS app.
Nobody said that Apple was relying on that all along, but that is in fact what happened. So either way we win! Apple invested a ton of money and time to build Maps and still will in perfecting it. I don't think all of that is just a ploy. But Apple and their users sure made out well!
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So it was planned all along
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:31 PM   #20
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Whether apple intended this or not, its a win win for customers. Going from one basic google maps option, to apple's map and a far better google maps is awesome for users.
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Whether apple intended this or not, its a win win for customers. Going from one basic google maps option, to apple's map and a far better google maps is awesome for users.
And it's not just two options either. Even the short window between iOS6 release and now has given other maps a lot of visibility in the market.

I don't think it was Apples intention to Balls it up, but I do think they were hoping to for a more vibrant map market. I think they intended to build maps as a platform but ballsed up and didn't deliver a good enough base for that.
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Strat-e-gery....
Strategy doesnt get the manager in charge fired. Off with the fanboy glasses and back to reality!
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 10:38 PM   #23
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If the OP isn't a troll, I don't know what is.

The original maps app since 2009 was created and maintained by APPLE. Not Google. It was an app that used Google's maps.

So Apple cutting Google out of the picture was all on Apple trying to break out with their own maps. Which they utterly failed in.

Definitely a fanboy OP.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:25 PM   #24
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Reverse reverse triple reverse psychology.

Good move by Apple indeed.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 05:16 PM   #25
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Reverse reverse triple reverse psychology.

Good move by Apple indeed.
LOL. It was not any good move... this is just some BS to actually make a defeat look like a victory.
Apple clearly wants to get rid off Google from its ecosystem, and this was one of the last moves (the next one would be the search engine... but that's rather difficult for Apple). Apple baked a poor application and got it out hoping for people to love it just because it is from Apple, and it failed.

There is no strategy, there is failure from Apple. And now, not only it is failure but public shame. Google won again, and now whatever Apple does will be useless because either it will copy Google's easiness or it will just make a try.

Accept it, or keep believing what you really want to believe... that Apple made a good move, LOL.
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