No more Google Sync through Exchange (for new accounts)

jason2811 · Dec 14, 2012, 08:36 PM

http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/14/3...l-calendar-and

Not sure how this will affect most iOS users who sync their Google contacts and GMail and Google Calendar through Exchange on iOS.

milk242 · Dec 14, 2012, 08:54 PM

People will just have to add accounts for caldav and carddav.

BarryL · Dec 14, 2012, 09:45 PM

Or just move all your contacts to iCloud.

Afbar1114 · Dec 14, 2012, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryL

Or just move all your contacts to iCloud.

That's what I did.....I need push email

HankHowdy · Dec 14, 2012, 10:43 PM

How will I sync my contacts now?

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Use VZW Backup Assistant?

iErick · Dec 14, 2012, 10:52 PM

Did you guys miss the part where it says existing users can continue to use it. It's is only for new accounts.

Apps for business and education will still be supported as well

Petronas · Dec 16, 2012, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HankHowdy

How will I sync my contacts now?

CardDAV instructions.
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/a...answer=2753077

joshwithachance · Dec 16, 2012, 08:53 AM

I prefer to fetch my Gmail once an hour anyway, so I've been using the Gmail + CardDav set up for a bit now. It works pretty much exactly the same, save for push email.

HankHowdy · Dec 14, 2012, 10:58 PM

Never mind preexisting accounts will always have sync. An new accounts starting in January will have no sync.

I'm good then.

iHelios · Dec 14, 2012, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HankHowdy

Never mind preexisting accounts will always have sync. An new accounts starting in January will have no sync.

I'm good then.

Until your next iOS device purchase...

jason2811 · Dec 15, 2012, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HankHowdy

Never mind preexisting accounts will always have sync. An new accounts starting in January will have no sync.

I'm good then.

That's all good and true unless you have to restore iOS through iTunes. Or if you get your phone replaced through Apple Care.

aDRock1154 · Dec 15, 2012, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason2811

That's all good and true unless you have to restore iOS through iTunes. Or if you get your phone replaced through Apple Care.

This.

whsbuss · Dec 15, 2012, 01:51 PM

There's another discussion in the iOS6 forum http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1508098

For those not concerned about push email from Gmail in the native mail app, that's fine. But do not assume everyone is OK with fetch. I require push and if Google denies me that option I have a few options:

- drop Gmail and use Hotmail/Outlook or iCloud
- install Gmail app for push notifications and use native mail app to fetch

Some may tout the Gmail app as a better option..... maybe but can you create an event or open the Maps app from text inside the body of an email? Nope!

Google is thumbing the eye of Apple every chance it gets.

makotoisle · Dec 15, 2012, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whsbuss

There's another discussion in the iOS6 forum http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1508098

For those not concerned about push email from Gmail in the native mail app, that's fine. But do not assume everyone is OK with fetch. I require push and if Google denies me that option I have a few options:

- drop Gmail and use Hotmail/Outlook or iCloud
- install Gmail app for push notifications and use native mail app to fetch

Some may tout the Gmail app as a better option..... maybe but can you create an event or open the Maps app from text inside the body of an email? Nope!

Google is thumbing the eye of Apple every chance it gets.

Kind of like how Apple is thumbing Google every chance it gets?

ceevee · Jan 13, 2013, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason2811

That's all good and true unless you have to restore iOS through iTunes. Or if you get your phone replaced through Apple Care.

Is this true? If you restore or get a new iphone and restore, google sync will not create a new account every time.

I've restored my iphone 5 many times and checked the device management link under google sync and there aren't any new iphone accounts created, just the one.

So as long as your iphone has been using EAS, you should be able to continue using EAS after January.

Can anyone confirm?

HankHowdy · Dec 14, 2012, 11:22 PM

What? I will be using a preexisting account. I'm good. If I choose to creat a new email address then that account will not have sync.

Roessnakhan · Dec 14, 2012, 11:40 PM

CardDAV actually works better for me. You're able to associate Twitter IDs and custom information, that previously Google Sync (at least for me) didn't handle.

HankHowdy · Dec 15, 2012, 12:39 AM

Where do you get carddav?

milk242 · Dec 15, 2012, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HankHowdy

Where do you get carddav?

carddav and caldav are iOS supported, you would be adding "Other" under the "Mail, Contacts, Calendars" setting.

HankHowdy · Dec 15, 2012, 01:20 AM

Got it. Using it now. Also using new gmail app. I like it.

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bjb.butler · Dec 15, 2012, 05:55 AM

Existing accounts can still use exchange active sync.
Regardless, the gmail app has push, and iOS supports contacts and calendar via caldav and carddav. Google dropping AES support next year is really a non-issue.

QCassidy352 · Dec 15, 2012, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjb.butler

Existing accounts can still use exchange active sync.
Regardless, the gmail app has push, and iOS supports contacts and calendar via caldav and carddav. Google dropping AES support next year is really a non-issue.

Unless people don't want to use the gmail app (although I suspect that's exactly what this is designed to force people in to). I use both iCloud and gmail mail, and I like it all in one app.

Small White Car · Dec 15, 2012, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjb.butler

Existing accounts can still use exchange active sync.

Ok, so all my friends and family I set up with GMail Exchange...I can just ignore all of that?

That's my biggest fear, having to re-do all the help I've given out over the years. Ugh, shoot me now if that's the case.

But if that's not the case then, well, whatever.

I think this is a lame change, but it's not like Apple makes iCloud for Android so...yeah, how can I fault Google for starting to see things in a similar light?

Daveoc64 · Dec 15, 2012, 11:42 AM

Let's make it clear:

Right now, nothing has changed.

From the 30th January 2013:

-If you have never used Google Sync before, you will not be able to activate it on your account
-If you have a new device, you will not be able to add it to your existing Google account with Google Sync enabled

bjb.butler · Dec 16, 2012, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Small White Car

Ok, so all my friends and family I set up with GMail Exchange...I can just ignore all of that?

That's my biggest fear, having to re-do all the help I've given out over the years. Ugh, shoot me now if that's the case.

It seems as though all devices that are now set up to use AES will continue to work after the 30th. I think the trouble comes when setting up a new device. Google needs to be more clear on what will happen

Quote:

Originally Posted by chestvrg

My wife and I currently rely on gmail EAS. If I need to add her a number or make changes to a family member's contact list, I go directly to the gmail contacts (online), make the changes

It will work the same if you set up gmail contacts and calendar sync with carddav and caldav.

Dec 14, 2012, 08:36 PM	#1
jason2811 macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2006	No more Google Sync through Exchange (for new accounts) http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/14/3...l-calendar-and Not sure how this will affect most iOS users who sync their Google contacts and GMail and Google Calendar through Exchange on iOS.
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Dec 16, 2012, 08:53 AM	#8
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Daveoc64 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bristol, UK	Let's make it clear: Right now, nothing has changed. From the 30th January 2013: -If you have never used Google Sync before, you will not be able to activate it on your account -If you have a new device, you will not be able to add it to your existing Google account with Google Sync enabled __________________ iPhone 5 32GB Black (Three UK) \| Nexus 7 \| Kindle Keyboard 3G White MacBook (Late 2007) Windows 8 \| iCloud, Dropbox, Spotify Premium
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Dec 14, 2012, 08:54 PM	#2
milk242 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2007	People will just have to add accounts for caldav and carddav.
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Dec 14, 2012, 09:45 PM	#3
BarryL macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2012	Or just move all your contacts to iCloud.
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Dec 14, 2012, 10:43 PM	#5
HankHowdy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Victorville CA	How will I sync my contacts now? ---------- Use VZW Backup Assistant?
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Dec 14, 2012, 10:52 PM	#6
iErick macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2010	Did you guys miss the part where it says existing users can continue to use it. It's is only for new accounts. Apps for business and education will still be supported as well
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Dec 14, 2012, 10:58 PM	#9
HankHowdy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Victorville CA	Never mind preexisting accounts will always have sync. An new accounts starting in January will have no sync. I'm good then.
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Dec 15, 2012, 01:51 PM	#13
whsbuss macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2010 Location: SE Penna.	There's another discussion in the iOS6 forum http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1508098 For those not concerned about push email from Gmail in the native mail app, that's fine. But do not assume everyone is OK with fetch. I require push and if Google denies me that option I have a few options: - drop Gmail and use Hotmail/Outlook or iCloud - install Gmail app for push notifications and use native mail app to fetch Some may tout the Gmail app as a better option..... maybe but can you create an event or open the Maps app from text inside the body of an email? Nope! Google is thumbing the eye of Apple every chance it gets.
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Dec 14, 2012, 11:22 PM	#16
HankHowdy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Victorville CA	What? I will be using a preexisting account. I'm good. If I choose to creat a new email address then that account will not have sync.
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Dec 15, 2012, 12:39 AM	#18
HankHowdy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Victorville CA	Where do you get carddav?
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Dec 15, 2012, 01:20 AM	#20
HankHowdy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Victorville CA	Got it. Using it now. Also using new gmail app. I like it. ----------
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Dec 15, 2012, 05:55 AM	#21
bjb.butler macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA \| Riverside, CA	Existing accounts can still use exchange active sync. Regardless, the gmail app has push, and iOS supports contacts and calendar via caldav and carddav. Google dropping AES support next year is really a non-issue.
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