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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:36 PM   #1
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Increase in iPhone and iPad Thefts Accounts for Rise in New York City Crime Index




The New York Times reports that New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg today released crime data for the city as 2012 draws to a close, noting that a slight increase in the overall major crime index for the city can be entirely accounted for by an increase in iPhone and iPad thefts.
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As of Monday, the Police Department recorded 3,484 more major crimes in 2012 than for the same period last year. The increase in Apple product thefts: 3,890. [...]

"If you just took away the jump in Apple, we'd be down for the year," said Marc La Vorgna, the mayor's press secretary.
Thefts of Apple devices have naturally grown as their popularity has increased, and police in New York and other cities have been working to break up extensive rings of thieves and dealers trading in stolen iPhones and other electronics. Last year it was reported that in some New York City precincts more than half of the robberies in some months involved iPhones.

Today's report also notes that police have been emphasizing efforts to address theft on the city's subways, which are popular locations for gadget thefts due to the crowds and easy getaway opportunities.

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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:39 PM   #2
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 05:35 PM   #3
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:40 PM   #5
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thats crazy and im there everyday
He's dissembling.

I'd bet that if you looked at various categories, some are up and some are down. If one looks at thefts of electronic goods, one might see that they are steady and h could still say the same thing about Apple products. Note that he did NOT say that thefts of electronics are up. He only said that if one were to subtact a certain brand, the stats would be different.
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So along with 32oz sodas, he's now going to ban Apple products in the city.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:43 PM   #8
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So along with 32oz sodas, he's now going to ban Apple products in the city.
Well by comparison, he would allow you to bring a 16 GB, but not the 32 or 64. But you're also ok to bring 2 of the 16 GB models.
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So along with 32oz sodas, he's now going to ban Apple products in the city.
I think you mean 64 GB iPhones. Surely 32 is large enough for everyone?! Ban them all!
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So along with 32oz sodas, he's now going to ban Apple products in the city.
If you saw what is considered a 'small' soda at an AMC theater in NYC, you could see why it's not a bad idea. And before you start with some personal freedom nonsense, freedom, like everything else has a cost.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 06:42 PM   #11
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If you saw what is considered a 'small' soda at an AMC theater in NYC, you could see why it's not a bad idea. And before you start with some personal freedom nonsense, freedom, like everything else has a cost.
It's a chain reaction - as long as I'm paying for part of a smoker's health care, whether it be through socialized medicine or simple insurance, I want to have some say in the matter. Now, a fair society would allow the insurance company to charge the smoker, the obese, (gasp) the genetically predisposed, more money to insure them. But when society determines that that's unfair, and that everyone should pay the same no matter what their behavior or nature disposes them to, that's when you start to get government forcing behavior.

This is why markets are better.
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. Now, a fair society would allow the insurance company to charge the smoker, the obese, (gasp) the genetically predisposed, more money to insure them.
The companies already do add such charges. At least for smoking.

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Would be interesting if the NY Apple Stores also suffer from stolen products on an above average basis...
They do. Although it is mainly headphones etc. comes with having several thousand folks coming though their stores daily
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 03:22 PM   #13
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If you saw what is considered a 'small' soda at an AMC theater in NYC, you could see why it's not a bad idea. And before you start with some personal freedom nonsense, freedom, like everything else has a cost.
Personal freedom nonsense? Freedom has a cost in regard to how large your soft drink can be? Wow. You are not an American.

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Personal freedom nonsense? Freedom has a cost in regard to how large your soft drink can be? Wow. You are not an American.
Your soft drink can be as large as you want it. There is no law against filling up your glass a 2nd time. Well, except the law of common sense and decency.
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Personal freedom nonsense? Freedom has a cost in regard to how large your soft drink can be? Wow. You are not an American.
What a blanket and frankly, ignorant statement. Read the writings of Th. Jefferson, John Adams and James Madison and then you will understand where I gather my opinions from.
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So along with 32oz sodas, he's now going to ban Apple products in the city.
And subway trains since they are now being used to murder innocent people.

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Call me sadistic, but one day I would love to buy a dummy iPhone (those ones they use for displays), ...... then head for the subways of New York...


... and if more people thought the same and did the same, THEN we may see a decline in iPhone theft (and an increase in mugger fatalities).
I believe that just making that post is a felony nowadays.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:49 AM   #17
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Exactly. It's called being civilized.

I think if someone were to grab an iPhone out of a lady's hand on the subway and run here in Taiwan, it would probably be front page news and on the TV.

Everyone on the metro here is on a iPhone, iPad or Android device at all hours. Just the thought that some brute would grab it out of your hand is untenable.
Well, Japan isn't truely civilized.

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Call me sadistic, but one day I would love to buy a dummy iPhone (those ones they use for displays), pack it with C5 explosives and a remote detonation system, then head for the subways of New York...


... and if more people thought the same and did the same, THEN we may see a decline in iPhone theft (and an increase in mugger fatalities).
And arrest you and torture you to get info on Taliban's leaders. I would love to see that.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:42 PM   #18
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I take transit and sometimes worry about that. If there are enough people on board, I'll use my iPhone/iPad without worry.
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Don't laugh. Something like that wouldn't surprise me one little bit. Not in the culture we live in today. So don't give the douche bags any ideas.
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Not surprising. I'm very careful with using my iPhone in the city but its always a little risky. It would be a great feature if Apple added functionality to somehow make an iPhone useless to a thief.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 01:23 PM   #22
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It would be a great feature if Apple added functionality to somehow make an iPhone useless to a thief.
Find My iPhone lets you lock, erase, or brick an iPhone remotely. You can also see where it is, and...um...talk the guy into returning it.

Can also make it beep loudly, great for when the kids have hidden it.
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Not surprising. I'm very careful with using my iPhone in the city but its always a little risky. It would be a great feature if Apple added functionality to somehow make an iPhone useless to a thief.
it is possible, but i wonder what stopping them doing that. I mean i know they can hotlist credit card which becomes a piece of plastic which you scratch your teeth but nothing more.
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It would be a great feature if Apple added functionality to somehow make an iPhone useless to a thief.
I would pay $$$ for an optional Apple service where I could show up in one of their stores, show ID and proof of purchase of my iPhone using that ID (they have ways of checking), and have them permanently brick my iPhone should it ever show up on any network again. (Turning red hot in the thief's hands while the battery melts would be even better, but various liability laws probably prevent that.)

The problem is: would anyone ever buy my used iPhone knowing I could brick it at any time? The price of used iPhones would plumet like crazy.
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Not surprising. I'm very careful with using my iPhone in the city but its always a little risky. It would be a great feature if Apple added functionality to somehow make an iPhone useless to a thief.
I think NZ carriers are going to band together and build a system where if a smartphone is reported stolen it won't work on any of the three nz carriers. So unless the theif sells the phone overseas, it'd be useless to them
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