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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:19 PM   #1
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Intel Demos Future Ultrabook Designs, 4th Generation Core Processor Family




Intel demoed low power versions of its 4th Generation Intel Core Processor family (Haswell) that should make its way into Apple's next generation of MacBooks. The chips were first previewed in September 2011 and low power chips should be available in late 2013 or 2014, while desktop models are expected this spring.

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Intel also announced its intention to promote new Intel-powered touch-enabled Ultrabook devices using these new processors. Intel demonstrated one Ultrabook with a 13-hour battery life and said that these Ultrabooks with touch would start as low as $599, while units with a removable keyboard to convert to a tablet (like the Microsoft Surface) would start at around $799.

The company says the chips will provide a significant increase in both power and battery life and that devices using them should experience "true all-day battery life."
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The 4th generation Intel Core processor family enables true all-day battery life -- representing the most significant battery life capability improvement in Intel history. Skaugen disclosed that new systems are expected to deliver up to 9 hours of continuous battery life, freeing people from some of the wires and bulky power bricks typically toted around.

"The 4th generation Core processors are the first Intel chips built from the ground up with the Ultrabook in mind," Skaugen said. "We expect the tremendous advancements in lower-power Core processors, and the significant ramp of touch-based systems will lead to a significant new wave of convertible Ultrabooks and tablets that are thinner, lighter and, at the same time, have the performance required for more human-like interaction such as touch, voice and gesture controls."
Intel has previously said that power efficiency is one of its top priorities in chip design going forward. Versions of these chips will eventually make their way to the MacBook Air, iMac, and the MacBook Pro.

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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:21 PM   #2
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Looking forward to the mainstream/performance chips. But do i have wrong that the chips will have a TDP of 37W, 47W and 57W i.e. 2W higher than the Bridge chips?
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 07:25 PM   #3
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Looking forward to the mainstream/performance chips. But do i have wrong that the chips will have a TDP of 37W, 47W and 57W i.e. 2W higher than the Bridge chips?
Even if that is true, better power management & more efficient transistors reduce the power requirements dramatically.
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:23 PM   #4
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Sounds good, but I don't like the sound of LATE 2013 or 2014
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:26 PM   #5
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Sounds good, but I don't like the sound of LATE 2013 or 2014
Got to hate getting into a new year, and companies are already rushing you to the end of it!
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 05:32 AM   #6
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Got to hate getting into a new year, and companies are already rushing you to the end of it!
yes. people waits..and they announce another 'new' things next year..again wait..
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:27 PM   #8
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"With the company putting its efforts behind touch-capable ultrabooks, there could be increased pressure on Apple to release a touch-enabled notebook -- something it has resisted thus far"

Just because MS takes a dump and gives us win8 means we all want gorilla arm syndrome and touch screen laptops? No.
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"With the company putting its efforts behind touch-capable ultrabooks, there could be increased pressure on Apple to release a touch-enabled notebook -- something it has resisted thus far"

Just because MS takes a dump and gives us win8 means we all want gorilla arm syndrome and touch screen laptops? No.
Have you actually used a laptop running Windows 8 or are you just making guesses about what the experience would entail? (I haven't even seen one running Windows 8 in person, yet.)
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:36 PM   #10
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Have you actually used a laptop running Windows 8 or are you just making guesses about what the experience would entail? (I haven't even seen one running Windows 8 in person, yet.)
I have. My wife's laptop is a touch win 8 laptop. Lovely laptop but the touch just feels overkill.
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:39 PM   #12
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Have you actually used a laptop running Windows 8 or are you just making guesses about what the experience would entail? (I haven't even seen one running Windows 8 in person, yet.)
His comment doesn't require using win8. Using any touch screen that is upright creates the gorilla arm syndrome.
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His comment doesn't require using win8. Using any touch screen that is upright creates the gorilla arm syndrome.
What most people who haven't used a Windows 8 touchscreen PC don't realize is that the touchscreen capabilities are a complement (not a replacement for) keyboard & mouse. Depending on what type of activity you do on your computer, there will be time when you'll almost never use the touchscreen (eg when your activity is focused on typing text) and others where you'll use it almost like a tablet (eg web browsing, AV editing, etc...).

The only real issue I have with these devices is that their screens quickly become a fingerprint ridden mess. I've come to accept this on my 3.5" screen, but on a 15" display, it's another story.

Hopefully someone will come up with a fingerprint-proof solution.

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His comment doesn't require using win8. Using any touch screen that is upright creates the gorilla arm syndrome.
Got to love that term "Gorilla arm syndrome".
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Have you actually used a laptop running Windows 8 or are you just making guesses about what the experience would entail? (I haven't even seen one running Windows 8 in person, yet.)
With all due respect you are doing the same thing the person you quoted is.

Irony.

But.

I don't like the idea of laptops with touch screens unless you can fold it over.
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 06:41 PM   #16
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well looks like I'll be waiting till next for a new macbook then
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With all due respect you are doing the same thing the person you quoted is.

Irony.
In what way? He says that he'll get gorilla arm from using a win8 laptop and I asked whether he has actually used a win8 laptop before... he stated something as fact and I asked a question regarding his statement.
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Have you actually used a laptop running Windows 8 or are you just making guesses about what the experience would entail? (I haven't even seen one running Windows 8 in person, yet.)
For another view on this, I have barely used my Windows 8 laptop since I got my Surface RT, but when I have briefly done so, I have found to my surprise that I do try to touch the screen ... hell I even found myself doing that on an XP machine this morning. And yet it just doesn't happen on my SL MBP; I guess OS X really doesn't want to be touched, and as such I don't know how much longer laptops with it are going to be around. It's too hard to go back from touching.
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For another view on this, I have barely used my Windows 8 laptop since I got my Surface RT, but when I have briefly done so, I have found to my surprise that I do try to touch the screen ... hell I even found myself doing that on an XP machine this morning. And yet it just doesn't happen on my SL MBP; I guess OS X really doesn't want to be touched, and as such I don't know how much longer laptops with it are going to be around. It's too hard to go back from touching.
Take that metro GUI off the Win8 laptop and you probably wouldn't be wanting to touch it. Since the surface has the same GUI as Windows 8 that's probably why you tend to want to .

That's the difference between Apples view and Microsofts view.
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"With the company putting its efforts behind touch-capable ultrabooks, there could be increased pressure on Apple to release a touch-enabled notebook -- something it has resisted thus far"

Just because MS takes a dump and gives us win8 means we all want gorilla arm syndrome and touch screen laptops? No.

Amen. Ultrabooks? More like Ultra-boring.
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"With the company putting its efforts behind touch-capable ultrabooks, there could be increased pressure on Apple to release a touch-enabled notebook -- something it has resisted thus far"

Just because MS takes a dump and gives us win8 means we all want gorilla arm syndrome and touch screen laptops? No.
So do you think all of the iPad users out there that use the iPad to create media, type notes, and use productivity software with and without an attachable keyboard also have "gorilla arm syndrome"? Or are you just bashing MS because it's the "fun thing to do"?

Just curious...in your opinion, what exactly is the difference between using a touchscreen laptop and an iPad with a keyboard attachment?
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So do you think all of the iPad users out there that use the iPad to create media, type notes, and use productivity software with and without an attachable keyboard also have "gorilla arm syndrome"? Or are you just bashing MS because it's the "fun thing to do"?

Just curious...in your opinion, what exactly is the difference between using a touchscreen laptop and an iPad with a keyboard attachment?
I have to say... I used my iPad like that today. To take notes during a lecture using an Apple wireless keyboard to type faster.

Typing and all was really great. But having to touch the screen in this laptop-like configuration was not just awkward... it plain sucked!
Luckily with commands like CMD+B etc. I didn't have to touch the screen all that often!
When I did though... horrible horrible!
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So do you think all of the iPad users out there that use the iPad to create media, type notes, and use productivity software with and without an attachable keyboard also have "gorilla arm syndrome"? Or are you just bashing MS because it's the "fun thing to do"?

Just curious...in your opinion, what exactly is the difference between using a touchscreen laptop and an iPad with a keyboard attachment?
Not that I don't agree with you, but implying that using an iPad's touchscreen when propped up with the keyboard dock is actually comfortable, let alone the ideal way to use a touchscreen (as many manufacturers who are putting touchscreens on laptops seem to be implying), can't be a legitimate statement.

I've used many a Windows 8 laptop with touch screens and I just prefer mousing through the silly tile interface so I can get to the desktop and do things the right way. It's counterproductive and annoying. Unless you're holding it like a tablet or laying the screen flat on the ground, floating your hand and arm just to use a touchscreen on a laptop that already has a keyboard is not only unintuitive, but incredibly gimmicky.

Just my $.02.
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Not that I don't agree with you, but implying that using an iPad's touchscreen when propped up with the keyboard dock is actually comfortable, let alone the ideal way to use a touchscreen (as many manufacturers who are putting touchscreens on laptops seem to be implying), can't be a legitimate statement.

I've used many a Windows 8 laptop with touch screens and I just prefer mousing through the silly tile interface so I can get to the desktop and do things the right way. It's counterproductive and annoying. Unless you're holding it like a tablet or laying the screen flat on the ground, floating your hand and arm just to use a touchscreen on a laptop that already has a keyboard is not only unintuitive, but incredibly gimmicky.

Just my $.02.
I agree... in my limited experience with touchscreen laptops, I found it awkward as well. I was just wondering with the OP was bashing win8 laptops when this use scenario existed well before win8 came out (ie, this scenario existed with the iPad + separate keyboard combo).
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