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Old Jan 8, 2013, 04:41 PM   #1
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Apple Seeds Build 12D50 of OS X Beta 10.8.3 to Developers




Apple today seeded build 12D50 of OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion to developers, the fifth beta release reports 9to5Mac. The first 10.8.3 beta was seeded back in November, and the third and fourth releases were released in December.

Though the update comes with no known issues or new features, as before Apple has asked developers to focus on AirPlay, AirPort, Game Center, Graphics Drivers, and Safari in their testing. Registered developers can download it via the Apple Developer Page.

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Old Jan 8, 2013, 04:49 PM   #2
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Though the update comes with no known issues or new features, as before Apple has asked developers to focus on AirPlay, AirPort, Game Center, Graphics Drivers, and Safari in their testing. Registered developers can download it via the Apple Developer Page.

GRAPHICS DRIVERS!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 04:59 PM   #3
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Though the update comes with no known issues or new features, as before Apple has asked developers to focus on AirPlay, AirPort, Game Center, Graphics Drivers, and Safari in their testing. Registered developers can download it via the Apple Developer Page.

GRAPHICS DRIVERS!!!!!!!!!!
I don't get why you re wrote this cause its already there in the article above
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:02 PM   #4
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I don't get why you re wrote this cause its already there in the article above
They wrote "GRAPHIC DRIVEEEEERRRRRS" as well...
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:04 PM   #5
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They wrote "GRAPHIC DRIVEEEEERRRRRS" as well...
Oh didn't see that. My bad
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 09:32 PM   #6
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They wrote "GRAPHIC DRIVEEEEERRRRRS" as well...
SO.....?

There's a reason why people are screaming GRAPHICS DRIVEEEEERRRRRS...!!!!

Graphics have been sucky ever since LION....! Read again LION....! Read again LION....!

Even on MOUNTAIN LION (Read again MOUNTAIN LION.....!), it still leak memory like there's no tomorrow....

What makes you (or any other people who says it's stated there GRAPHICS DRIVEEEEERRRRRS) think they have solved the issue with a minor (2 digit build) update...?
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 05:20 PM   #7
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I don't get why you re wrote this cause its already there in the article above
Because the 'graphics drivers' will hopefully improve the annoying choppy animations.

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Old Jan 10, 2013, 09:15 AM   #8
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Because the 'graphics drivers' will hopefully improve the annoying choppy animations.
Since Lion almost all of their updates have include "graphics drivers"... And where the hell are we now...? Still choppy...
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 09:49 AM   #9
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Do these graphic drivers updates have any effect on games like Stacraft II for example ?
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 04:57 PM   #10
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Since Lion almost all of their updates have include "graphics drivers"... And where the hell are we now...? Still choppy...
I never knew this, there were so many people complaining about a lack of graphics drivers, I assumed apple had neglected them.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 10:39 AM   #11
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I don't get why you re wrote this cause its already there in the article above
He didn't re-write it. He just orgasminated to the original announcement. Which I can totally understand.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:01 PM   #12
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Here's what needs to be fixed:
Issues related with Graphic drivers: Choppy Animations, Memory Leaks when apps use GPU/hardware acceleration, Kernal Panics.

Other problems: CRAZY Shutdown times, poor battery life.

Here's what should be added: GPU accelerated scrolling in Mail, Preview (similar to Safari), option to do a three dinger swipe in all apps when it's enabled in Trackpad settings.


Edit: I have a MBP 13" mid 2010. But I've also seen most of these problems on RetinaMBPs

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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:03 PM   #13
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Here's what needs to be fixed:
Issues related with Graphic drivers: Choppy Animations, Memory Leaks when apps use GPU/hardware acceleration, Kernal Panics.

Other problems: CRAZY Shutdown times, poor battery life.

Here's what should be added: GPU accelerated scrolling in Mail, Preview (similar to Safari), option to do a three dinger swipe in all apps when it's enabled in Trackpad settings.
Do you have a retina MBP by any chance ?
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:39 PM   #14
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Here's what needs to be fixed:
Issues related with Graphic drivers: Choppy Animations, Memory Leaks when apps use GPU/hardware acceleration, Kernal Panics.

Other problems: CRAZY Shutdown times, poor battery life.

Here's what should be added: GPU accelerated scrolling in Mail, Preview (similar to Safari), option to do a three dinger swipe in all apps when it's enabled in Trackpad settings.


Edit: I have a MBP 13" mid 2010. But I've also seen most of these problems on RetinaMBPs
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:43 PM   #15
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Here's what needs to be fixed:

1. Apple's laziness to launch an OS with so many glitches in their OWN unique hardware.

2. Stop adding BS social features and focus on quality.

3. If Apple wants to add new features, then start copying Windows 8 GREAT file copying and management. That is what desktop OSes do, anyway. This is not an iPad.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 06:10 PM   #16
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Here's what needs to be fixed:

1. Apple's laziness to launch an OS with so many glitches in their OWN unique hardware.

2. Stop adding BS social features and focus on quality.

3. If Apple wants to add new features, then start copying Windows 8 GREAT file copying and management. That is what desktop OSes do, anyway. This is not an iPad.
You can thank Craig Federighi for this as he took over as Senior Vice President of Software Engineering after Bertrand Serlet left in 2011. Serlet moved to Apple with Jobs from NeXT and was Senior VP in S.E., and was mainly responsible for Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard. Criag Federighi is a hack, responsible for allowing Forstall to incorporate iOS **** into OS X while dropping the ball on improved graphics drivers and OpenGL Core support, a revised HFS+ Finder system, lack of full multiple display support, "Mission Control", horrible memory management, and pushing for an annual release cycle. The odds are, it won't change.

EDIT Read post #85, as some have called my information into question I have added links and facts to support that Craig Federighi was head of OS X development two years prior to Serlet's March 2011 announcement for departure. Craig Federighi has been head of OS X development since his return to Apple in 2009.

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Serlet joined Apple in 1997 and has been involved in the definition, development and creation of Mac OS X. Before his time at Apple, Serlet spent four years at Xerox PARC, then joined NeXT with Jobs in 1989. He holds a doctorate in Computer Science from the University of Orsay, France.

"I've worked with Steve for 22 years and have had an incredible time developing products at both NeXT and Apple, but at this point, I want to focus less on products and more on science," Serlet said.

He will be replaced by Craig Federighi, Apple's vice president of Mac Software Engineering. In his new role, Federighi will assume Serlet's responsibilities and will report directly to Jobs.

Federighi is responsible for the development of Mac OS X, and has been managing the Mac OS software engineering group for the past two years. It was Federighi who gave a live demonstration of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion at a media event last October.

"Craig has done a great job managing the Mac OS team for the past two years," Serlet said. "Lion is a great release and the transition should be seamless."

Federighi worked at NeXT, followed by Apple, and spent a decade at Ariba where he held several roles including vice president of Internet Services and chief technology officer. He returned to Apple in 2009 to lead Mac OS X engineering. Federighi holds a Master of Science degree in Computer Science and a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from the University of California, Berkeley.
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You can thank Criag Federighi for this as he took over as Senior Vice President of Software Engineering after Bertrand Serlet left in 2011. Serlet moved to Apple with Jobs from NeXT and was Senior VP in S.E., and was mainly responsible for Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard. Criag Federighi is a hack, responsible for allowing Forstall to incorporate iOS **** into OS X while dropping the ball on improved graphics drivers and OpenGL Core support, a revised HFS+ Finder system, lack of full multiple display support, "Mission Control", horrible memory management, and pushing for an annual release cycle. The odds are, it won't change.
Just a question, what is the issue with dual monitors? I am quite pleased with how well Mountain Lion works with multiple monitors. What features are lacking that are present in other OS'es or in previous versions of OS X?

Just curious. Evidently there's something I don't know about!
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You can thank Criag Federighi for this as he took over as Senior Vice President of Software Engineering after Bertrand Serlet left in 2011. Serlet moved to Apple with Jobs from NeXT and was Senior VP in S.E., and was mainly responsible for Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard. Criag Federighi is a hack, responsible for allowing Forstall to incorporate iOS **** into OS X while dropping the ball on improved graphics drivers and OpenGL Core support, a revised HFS+ Finder system, lack of full multiple display support, "Mission Control", horrible memory management, and pushing for an annual release cycle. The odds are, it won't change.
I couldn't agree with you more. Criag Federighi seriously needs to get his act together and take a leadership role that once represented such great and flawless Mac software. My blood has been boiling since the release of Lion and now Mountain Lion. There is so much focus on completely useless features and iOSification. I mean Apple has lost its touch from truly making the best desktop operating system. The OS X Kernel HASN'T BEEN UPDATED MUCH SINCE SNOW LEOPARD! Yes, SL, Lion, and ML all pretty much have the same Kernel, which explains the crazy memory usage and random Kernel Panics.

I don't know if Apple is being lazy or just greedy because Macs now are just a small part of their overall business.
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You can thank Criag Federighi for this as he took over as Senior Vice President of Software Engineering after Bertrand Serlet left in 2011. Serlet moved to Apple with Jobs from NeXT and was Senior VP in S.E., and was mainly responsible for Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard. Criag Federighi is a hack, responsible for allowing Forstall to incorporate iOS **** into OS X while dropping the ball on improved graphics drivers and OpenGL Core support, a revised HFS+ Finder system, lack of full multiple display support, "Mission Control", horrible memory management, and pushing for an annual release cycle. The odds are, it won't change.
I think someone needs to point out to you that Craig (at least spell his name correctly) took over as head of OSX in 2011. Lion was previewed to everyone in 2010, when Bertrand Serlet was still in-charge of its development; so I don't really see how it can be Federighi's fault?
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Is shutdown speed fixed, or still buggered?
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Is shutdown speed fixed, or still buggered?
I decided to test this on a 2012 cMBP. SSD

After closing all apps I shut it down. The timer started when I clicked on the pop up menu to shut down.
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My friend, you won't believe how many feedbacks I've sent. Essays upon essays but nothing happens.
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I found it to be more promising when filing a bug report at the link below:

https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/....woa/wa/signIn

Once you do this you can be quite sure that the issue is retrieved and followed up. Issues like the slow shutdown times and Airport problems for example seemed to be of interest as Apple asked for sysdiagnoses and protocols.
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I agree with the slow shutdown times. I had a 2007 iMac with Mountain Lion. I put Snow Leopard back on it to sell it.

Mountain Lion: 30-35 seconds to shutdown
Snow Leopard: 5 seconds to shutdown

Even with my newer 2011 iMac, shutdown times are around 30 seconds. It doesn't bother me. I just find it strange.
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Fix the weird rendering issues in Safari 6 and fix the keychain issues with Messages (still unable to use the app).
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