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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:15 PM   #1
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Walmart and Straight Talk Wireless Now Carrying iPhone 5




Walmart and Straight Talk Wireless are now carrying the iPhone 5, offering a $45 unlimited talk, text and data plan with no contract. It was previously reported by That's It Guys. Straight Talk is a subsidiary of TracFone, and its iPhone customers will use AT&T's network. There is no indication of whether the phones will support AT&T's LTE network or not.

Like other prepaid plans such as Virgin Mobile, users must pay full price for their iPhones without having them subsidized by the carrier. Unlike Virgin Mobile, Walmart is offering holders of the Walmart credit card a no-interest fixed payment plan for $25/month. This allows customers to have a unlimited talk, text and data plan for a total of $70/month before taxes and fees.

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Walmart and Straight Talk Wireless, America's largest and top rated no-contract cell phone provider, today put the power back in the hands of customers with an industry game changing offer. Starting on January 11, 2013 in more than 2,000 Walmart stores and online at Walmart.com, customers now have access to the iPhone 5 and iPhone 4 on Straight Talk's $45 no contract unlimited talk, text and data plan. To make this offer even more affordable, Walmart will be offering customers who purchase the phone in the store, a no interest fixed-monthly payments special financing offer for only $25 a month with a Walmart Credit Card.

The Straight Talk wireless no contract plan, exclusive to Walmart, saves consumers on average $950 a year when they switch from conventional contract plans with similar unlimited plans. To learn more about how Straight Talk Wireless saves consumers $950 a year, please visit: www.straighttalk.com.
The iPhone 5 is available in black or white for $649 for the 16GB model only, and the iPhone 4 is available in black or white for $449 for the 8GB model.

Article Link: Walmart and Straight Talk Wireless Now Carrying iPhone 5
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:18 PM   #2
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Very nice straight talk, very nice
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 08:56 AM   #3
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Very nice straight talk, very nice
Straight Talk, the iPhone 5 & Walmart are a perfect fit. It helps Apple keeps their sales numbers up and brings the type of new customers Apple seek as they spread out to big box stores.

Less sensitive to performance features & style, these new customers will embrace whatever Apple decides to put out with its next new model.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 11:05 AM   #4
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Where is the plan where I can buy and use any phone and then pay a carrier per phone call, per text, per unit of data. The carrier would be selected by rates, reception, speed, reliability and reputation for good service. Pretty much like any other product except phone companies!

I want to only pay for what I use, not to subsidize those who use more than me or to pay carriers for services not even used.

Not interested in hacking, filing down sim cards, manipulating the system.

There will be cheap months and expensive months, much like my gasoline expenses. Depends on what is going on.

This seems fair enough.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 11:11 AM   #5
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Where is the plan where I can buy and use any phone and then pay a carrier per phone call, per text, per unit of data. The carrier would be selected by rates, reception, speed, reliability and reputation for good service. Pretty much like any other product except phone companies!

I want to only pay for what I use, not to subsidize those who use more than me or to pay carriers for services not even used.

Not interested in hacking, filing down sim cards, manipulating the system.

There will be cheap months and expensive months, much like my gasoline expenses. Depends on what is going on.

This seems fair enough.
The closest I've found to this is Airvoice Wireless. I started a separate thread to discuss it @ http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1393202.

They only offer a full sized (Mini) SIM. Cutting down your SIM isn't some sort of rules violation.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 01:23 PM   #6
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Is there a SIM card in the phone?


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Where is the plan where I can buy and use any phone and then pay a carrier per phone call, per text, per unit of data. The carrier would be selected by rates, reception, speed, reliability and reputation for good service. Pretty much like any other product except phone companies!

I want to only pay for what I use, not to subsidize those who use more than me or to pay carriers for services not even used.

Not interested in hacking, filing down sim cards, manipulating the system.

There will be cheap months and expensive months, much like my gasoline expenses. Depends on what is going on.

This seems fair enough.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 11:12 AM   #7
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Is anyone else having cellular data service and MMS messaging problems on their new Straight Talk iPhone 5?

My friend just bought one in-store. At the checkout, the cashier actually unwrapped the iPhone, took it out of the box, and then connected it to their PC with iTunes and did some sort of setup to it.

Then, my friend brought it home and did the normal setup, and everything seemed fine until we tried cellular data service and MMS messaging - neither are working.

We went back to a different Walmart, and they said that the cashier we bought it from wasn't suppose to open the box and do any sort of setup to the iPhone - no Walmarts are allowed to do that ... another cashier said that the carrier was wrong - the iPhone says TFW 14.0, and this cashier said it's suppose to be TFW 13.1 ... another cashier said that the "VPN number" was wrong ...

We tried ST online support, and this is the transcript from the help session:
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> 3:04:13 PM You wrote: Hello. I am not receiving any cellular data service or MMS messages on my new iPhone. I think it might have something to do with the carrier which is set to TFW 14.
> 3:04:34 PM Hayley: Good day! Thank you for visiting Straight Talk Wireless. I would be happy to assist you today. May I have your Straight Talk phone number?
> 3:04:53 PM You wrote: XXXXXXX
> 3:05:15 PM Hayley: Thank you. Please allow me a moment as I check your account.
> 3:10:24 PM Hayley: Thank you for waiting. Before I provide you with the information on your account, I need to ask the security question on your account. XXXXXXX?
> 3:10:35 PM You wrote: XXXXXXX
> 3:11:24 PM Hayley: Please dial *22890. Once the phone has been programmed, please access your browser.
> 3:12:08 PM You wrote: Does wifi need to to be turned on since I don't have cellular data service?
> 3:12:44 PM Hayley: No. Please turned off the Wi-Fi.
> 3:12:56 PM You wrote: okay, wifi is turned off, and will dial the number
> 3:13:08 PM Hayley: Thank you, Rodney.
> 3:13:38 PM You wrote: it said "welcome ... please hold ... airtime free."
> 3:13:48 PM You wrote: *background music*
> 3:14:02 PM You wrote: and said it's programmed successfully
> 3:14:22 PM You wrote: accessing browser
> 3:14:50 PM Hayley: Please let me know if you encountered an error message.
> 3:15:33 PM You wrote: and a window just popped up and says "Could not activate cellular data network. You are not subscribed to a cellular data service."
> 3:16:07 PM Hayley: I see. Please allow me a moment as I check your account.
> 3:19:18 PM Hayley: Thank you for waiting. Does your phone displays "TFW"?
> 3:21:07 PM You wrote: Hello, yes it says "TFW 3G" in the upper left hand corner, and under Settings > General > About > it says the Carrier is TFW 14.0
> 3:22:00 PM Hayley: I see. When you tap them "Carrier," does it give you an option?
> 3:23:58 PM You wrote: In Settings > General > About, when I tap on Carrier, it changes and shows the PRL number, and then ERI, and then NAI, and then MSID, and then starts back again at Carrier.
> 3:24:51 PM Hayley: Alright, Rodney. I need to check again your account.
> 3:29:33 PM Hayley: Thank you for waiting. Can you dial again the *22890?
> 3:29:51 PM You wrote: okay, will dial the number
> 3:30:18 PM Hayley: Thank you.
> 3:30:24 PM You wrote: says "welcome ... please hold ... airtime free."
> 3:30:31 PM You wrote: *background music*
> 3:31:07 PM You wrote: and said "your phone has been programmed successfully."
> 3:32:09 PM Hayley: One moment please...
> 3:32:16 PM Hayley: Good. Can you access again the browser?
> 3:32:31 PM You wrote: yes, will open again
> 3:33:07 PM Hayley: Please let me know if you still have the same error message.
> 3:33:37 PM You wrote: and received the same message as before: "Could not activate cellular data network. You are not subscribed to a cellular data service."
> 3:34:39 PM Hayley: One moment please...
> 3:34:47 PM Hayley: I'm sorry to know that. In this case, we will need to speak with you directly for us further investigate the issue. Please contact one of our customer care representatives at 1-888-251-8164. For your convenience, our representatives are available Monday-Sunday from 8:00 AM to 11:45 PM EST.
> 3:36:40 PM You wrote: okay, thank you
> 3:37:00 PM Hayley: You are welcome. Thank you for chatting Straight Talk Wireless.
So basically, when we try to use cellular data service, we get the message "Could not activate cellular data network. You are not subscribed to a cellular data service."

Finally, we called for help ... twice ... The first time, the person had us connect the iPhone to our computer using iTunes to set it up - she said that after we restored it, we were suppose to get a message saying something about there being no SIM card, and then a new window is suppose to pop up. That didn't happen, it was just stuck at the "no SIM card screen" with a little lock in the upper right hand corner. The next phone call just had us do the same stuff that the online support had us do ... still no cellular data service or MMS messaging.

Does anyone actually know what they're doing??? It'd be great to find someone who can actually resolve this problem.

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Old Feb 16, 2013, 12:12 PM   #8
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Is anyone else having cellular data service and MMS messaging problems on their new Straight Talk iPhone 5?

My friend just bought one in-store. At the checkout, the cashier actually unwrapped the iPhone, took it out of the box, and then connected it to their PC with iTunes and did some sort of setup to it.

Then, my friend brought it home and did the normal setup, and everything seemed fine until we tried cellular data service and MMS messaging - neither are working.

We went back to a different Walmart, and they said that the cashier we bought it from wasn't suppose to open the box and do any sort of setup to the iPhone - no Walmarts are allowed to do that ... another cashier said that the carrier was wrong - the iPhone says TFW 14.0, and this cashier said it's suppose to be TFW 13.1 ... another cashier said that the "VPN number" was wrong ...

We tried ST online support, and this is the transcript from the help session:


So basically, when we try to use cellular data service, we get the message "Could not activate cellular data network. You are not subscribed to a cellular data service."

Finally, we called for help ... twice ... The first time, the person had us connect the iPhone to our computer using iTunes to set it up - she said that after we restored it, we were suppose to get a message saying something about there being no SIM card, and then a new window is suppose to pop up. That didn't happen, it was just stuck at the "no SIM card screen" with a little lock in the upper right hand corner. The next phone call just had us do the same stuff that the online support had us do ... still no cellular data service or MMS messaging.

Does anyone actually know what they're doing??? It'd be great to find someone who can actually resolve this problem.
I have the ST iPhone 5 working on verizon with zero issues. Are you trying to use the iphone 5 on verizon or with an att/tmob sim? Has your friend tried setting it up again with itunes as a NEW iPhone, ie not from backup? Perhaps when it was plugged into the walmart pc a setting was changed?
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 05:12 PM   #9
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I have the ST iPhone 5 working on verizon with zero issues. Are you trying to use the iphone 5 on verizon or with an att/tmob sim? Has your friend tried setting it up again with itunes as a NEW iPhone, ie not from backup? Perhaps when it was plugged into the walmart pc a setting was changed?
Just trying to use the Straight Talk iPhone 5 ... on Straight Talk. The only SIM issue I mentioned above was the fact that iTunes shows you a "no SIM card screen" after restoring it ... not from backup since it's new. If there were any other issues I would have mentioned them ...

I don't even know what the cashier was doing with it when it was bought ... It was just plugged in, and saw him click on stuff in iTunes ... I don't know.
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Is anyone else having cellular data service and MMS messaging problems on their new Straight Talk iPhone 5?

My friend just bought one in-store. At the checkout, the cashier actually unwrapped the iPhone, took it out of the box, and then connected it to their PC with iTunes and did some sort of setup to it.

Then, my friend brought it home and did the normal setup, and everything seemed fine until we tried cellular data service and MMS messaging - neither are working.

We went back to a different Walmart, and they said that the cashier we bought it from wasn't suppose to open the box and do any sort of setup to the iPhone - no Walmarts are allowed to do that ... another cashier said that the carrier was wrong - the iPhone says TFW 14.0, and this cashier said it's suppose to be TFW 13.1 ... another cashier said that the "VPN number" was wrong ...

We tried ST online support, and this is the transcript from the help session:


So basically, when we try to use cellular data service, we get the message "Could not activate cellular data network. You are not subscribed to a cellular data service."

Finally, we called for help ... twice ... The first time, the person had us connect the iPhone to our computer using iTunes to set it up - she said that after we restored it, we were suppose to get a message saying something about there being no SIM card, and then a new window is suppose to pop up. That didn't happen, it was just stuck at the "no SIM card screen" with a little lock in the upper right hand corner. The next phone call just had us do the same stuff that the online support had us do ... still no cellular data service or MMS messaging.

Does anyone actually know what they're doing??? It'd be great to find someone who can actually resolve this problem.
Watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkQVnslKNYs
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:18 PM   #11
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Great news! Nice to see Apple spreading their products to new low price carriers instead of an AT&T monopoly.
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Great news! Nice to see Apple spreading their products to new low price carriers instead of an AT&T monopoly.
ATT hasn't had a monopoly on the iPhone for awhile now?
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 05:43 PM   #13
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Unlimited data?

Sure. Until you hit 200MB/day or 2GB/month and your speeds slow to a crawl*.

*So says current StraightTalk users.
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Sure. Until you hit 200MB/day or 2GB/month and your speeds slow to a crawl*.

*So says current StraightTalk users.
yes, this is a read the fine print deal

http://www.howardforums.com/forumdis...-Straight-Talk

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Big whoop. This is already available by going to an Apple store and then a Wal-Mart. And it's more cost effective if you buy a used iPhone 4 or 4S.
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Ive been on ST for a few months with a 4S. It is not LTE, and on ATT's backbone. For the money no complaints, and visual voicemail will not work, but you can use Youmail instead for free.

I used ST before I had my iPhones and liked it. I see no value in a iPhone 5 as I would of got one.

Very satisfied. Besides buggy stuff with iMessage a happy customer
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And it's more cost effective if you buy a used iPhone 4 or 4S.
This is true. I don't know how successful they are going to be in selling the phone for $649 plus tax, even with the installment plan.
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ATT hasn't had a monopoly on the iPhone for awhile now?
You can't BUY an AT&T compatible GSM iPhone from any other carrier. This is the only other Apple Recognized GSM carrier in the US. T-mobile shares GSM, but they don't have PERMISSION from Apple to sell or support iPhones.

So while you CAN move an out of contract iPhone to Tmobile, lots of features don't work.
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You can't BUY an AT&T compatible GSM iPhone from any other carrier. This is the only other Apple Recognized GSM carrier in the US. T-mobile shares GSM, but they don't have PERMISSION from Apple to sell or support iPhones.

So while you CAN move an out of contract iPhone to Tmobile, lots of features don't work.
I don't think that was my point. My point was you can get an iPhone on Verizon, Sprint, etc. So the iPhone itself is not an ATT exclusive - and hasn't been for awhile now.
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You can't BUY an AT&T compatible GSM iPhone from any other carrier. This is the only other Apple Recognized GSM carrier in the US. T-mobile shares GSM, but they don't have PERMISSION from Apple to sell or support iPhones.

So while you CAN move an out of contract iPhone to Tmobile, lots of features don't work.
Well, that's now untrue. You can buy a Verizon iPhone 5 and stick a nano-sim from any GSM carrier into it and it'll work. You can buy an unlocked iPhone4S from Apple directly. You can also buy a no-contract iPhone 5 from AT&T and unlock it by restoring the firmware.

If you're on T-Mobile you'll have to set the data and MMS settings manually, and most T-Mobile data is EDGE not 3G+. Visual voicemail won't work, but that's pretty much the only feature that won't work.
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Great news! Nice to see Apple spreading their products to new low price carriers instead of an AT&T monopoly.
It's an illusion. Take a pie and cut it up into 4 slices. Take same pie cut it up into 16 slices. The pie's size never changes.

Buy a phone a full price and pay lower monthly fees. Buy a subsidized phone and pay higher monthly fees. Ultimately pretty much the same $ is coming out of your pocket, just different increments at different times.

Wide choice of carriers is a good thing, but let's not think one is less expensive than another. You get what you pay for.
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Network?

How do we evaluate the network coverage/quality of this deal? Is Straight Talk really the carrier with its own network or do they really buy time on one of the bigger networks, i.e. the customer is really buying into the physical infrastructure of another; if so, which one. Thanks
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How do we evaluate the network coverage/quality of this deal? Is Straight Talk really the carrier with its own network or do they really buy time on one of the bigger networks, i.e. the customer is really buying into the physical infrastructure of another; if so, which one. Thanks
RTFA. :-)

"Straight Talk is a subsidiary of TracFone, and its iPhone customers will use AT&T's network. There is no indication of whether the phones will support AT&T's LTE network or not."
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RTFA. :-)
Brilliant acronym! I will be using this.
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How do we evaluate the network coverage/quality of this deal? Is Straight Talk really the carrier with its own network or do they really buy time on one of the bigger networks, i.e. the customer is really buying into the physical infrastructure of another; if so, which one. Thanks
With 99% certainty, it will be AT&T's HSDP+ network (4G, not lte in the top left of the phone). I'd love to be surprised by LTE, but highly doubtful.
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