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Old Jan 13, 2013, 05:03 AM   #1
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Thinking of replacing my iPad 1 with an air

My old iPad is starting to suffer, it has a Bloch on the screen and it's becoming painfully slow
Also, I recently had to use my iPad for some office work (I was out the country) and it was just a pain!

So I'm thinking, base spec, 11" air would be the ideal replacement

Am I mad?

I do love the iPad for its convenience, battery life and portability
But the current air's seem pretty good at doing what I need

Agggghhh!
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 05:18 AM   #2
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If you can afford it, I wholeheartedly recommend it. I had several iPads, and while I even prefer them for media consumption, I never managed to be very productive on them.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 08:11 AM   #3
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Do you most need an iPad or a computer? For me, neither could replace the other, as they are totally different things. Despite the 11inch Air being not much bigger than an iPad, I wouldn't use it in all the ways I use iPads.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 08:19 AM   #4
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If you gotta choose between them, it's a no-brainer. Get the Air.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 09:59 AM   #5
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They're different devices serving different needs. The Air is a full fledged computer that can do computer-y stuff. The iPad, while it can be used for work, does have its limits. It really depends on what kind of work you need it to do.

The advantage of the iPad over the Air is that it has a much lighter footprint than even the 11" Air, and the battery lasts twice as long. It is also a great tool for client presentation, either on the device itself or using the AV-adaptor to connect to a larger monitor or projector.

When doing work with an iPad, it helps to have a physical keyboard. I bought the Apple BT keyboard precisely to write/code on the iPad2 and it has made life easier. There're times where I don't even need to turn my computers on, working solely through the iPad.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 10:01 AM   #6
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If you gotta choose between them, it's a no-brainer. Get the Air.
I kind of agree with this. I love my iPad and use it extensively, but if the choice was between the iPad and Air for getting office work done, then definitely the Air.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 10:24 AM   #7
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I had an iPad 3 64 GB with cell and dropped it after 2 to 3 months for a MBA and ave never looked back.

In essence it depends on the usage in that for consuming materials the iPad is great but for creating / tracking information the MBA is much better.

To me the best solution is an iPhone 5 [or like device] + MBA.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 10:33 AM   #8
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I know what you say about them being totally different devices
Since buying the iPad, I have hardly switched my old 17" MBP on!

My reasons for considering an air and not just another iPad

1. Sometimes, some websites just don't work on the iPad
2. I sometimes get some finger paid from the onscreen keyboard (I could buy a bt keyboard though)
3. Pages and numbers are good, but sometimes a pain in the arse
4. My old MacBook pro, which is in perfect condition, can't run lion so no iCloud integration
5. My mac mini server has no monitor and even if it did, there is nowhere to put it.
6. The wife is never off the pro as its her business machine.
7. Need to buy the camera connection kit again (for lighting)


Reasons for an iPad

1. We have a mac pro a mac mini server and two MacBooks for anything the iPad can't handle.
2. Great for traveling, it can share a charger with our iPhones
3. Cheaper


Weird, it's a really difficult decision
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 11:14 AM   #9
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My old iPad is starting to suffer, it has a Bloch on the screen and it's becoming painfully slow
Also, I recently had to use my iPad for some office work (I was out the country) and it was just a pain!

So I'm thinking, base spec, 11" air would be the ideal replacement

Am I mad?

I do love the iPad for its convenience, battery life and portability
But the current air's seem pretty good at doing what I need

Agggghhh!
It really depends on just how mobile you need to be. And the quality of on the go work you need done. If your allows you to be mobile for let's say 80% of your work day then I'd suggest just upgrading your iPad to the New iPad with maybe the 32GB model and like I said it all depends n your workload. However if you're not on the road that much you might want to consider the MBA.
Taking into consideration your budget you would not want to overspend on a device you will never fully utilize but rather on something you'll get your money's worth.
I hope I was able to help.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 11:26 AM   #10
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I recently purchased the MBA 11" 4/128/i5
My iPad is now collecting dust. I just feel i get more done on the MBA.
Just wish I got the 8/128 /i7 instead. I use iLife quite a bit, it lags slightly.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 12:31 PM   #11
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I agree they are different products for different tasks. Office work is definitely better on a MacBook Air. However, you lose the ability to run iOS apps. Perhaps consider a base 11" MBA, and a base iPad Mini. Combined, it would weigh less than the 13" MBA and serve all your computing needs.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 02:16 PM   #12
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hmm, that could work
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 03:58 PM   #13
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I was in a similar situation over the summer, and I wound up going with an MBA, albeit the 13" model. No regrets. The iPad is good for consuming content but horrible for creating it unless you enjoy typing on glass.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 06:24 PM   #14
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Perhaps consider a base 11" MBA, and a base iPad Mini.
I have the 11" MBA and combined that with an iPad mini - they're a great combination for me, highly complementary, highly recommended duo.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 08:49 PM   #15
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I have the 11" MBA and combined that with an iPad mini - they're a great combination for me, highly complementary, highly recommended duo.
I had that combo until about 3 weeks ago when I lost my MacBook Air at an airport. Fortunately it was insured and I had Find My Mac turned on so it erased itself (and all my personal data) the first time whoever found it at the airport 2 days later (and didn't turn it in ) turned it on and it detected the airport Wi-Fi. I decided to use the insurance proceeds and a few hundred extra dollars to step up to the 13" Retina MacBook Pro. I'm still getting used to the weight, but the Retina Display is really nice. Now I can't wait for the iPad mini to get a Retina Display.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 05:31 AM   #16
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I have the 11" MBA and combined that with an iPad mini - they're a great combination for me, highly complementary, highly recommended duo.
I agree based on my personal experience.

Yet if you're only interested in one, I'd buy the MBA without hesitation. There's a full keyboard, a full OS with a file system, and it's still feather light & a fully functional computer.

Frankly I can't image only having an iPad. Even if one has a desktop.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 10:01 AM   #17
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Get MBA or iPad?

edit - sorry meant to creat a new thread

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Old Feb 11, 2013, 04:49 PM   #18
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The advantage is speed & native access just like using my computer.

Android ver: 4.2.x as on my Nexus 4 performs with great speed & accuracy. In fairness looking back & talking about Android lag is irrelevant. My current crop of Android phones being a: Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II & Nexus 4 all operate lag free. They are as smooth & fast as my iPhone 5.

Remember iOS has had quite a head start over Android, yet Google has made swift & excellent progress with it. Running both my Nexus 4 & iPhone 5 side by side, in real world usage they are nearly identical in performance.

At the end of the day, it's the user that wins big, since the choices have never been better. Now one can choose from either Android or iOS and enjoy an excellent experience.
Lag as in while running dosbox installed older pc games. That was the only time file system access came in handy for me.

It was something cool and potentially useful, but the hardware and lack of optimization made it impossible.

I'm just trying to brainstorm when having file system access was useful for me.

Everything else file management apps worked spectacularly for. I even preferred them over directly JBing.

I have the gs3 too, great phone. I wouldn't go apple for a phone...
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The beauty of what we are discussing revolves around choices. In that context it's a win, win outcome once the decision is made.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 01:43 PM   #20
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Unfortunately none of this addresses what I wrote before.
The PC is locked down so I can't use wifi/Airstash.
USB stick or USB cable is the only way to go.
IP restrictions doesn't allow to upload to a cloud service (encrypted or not).
Emailing the files to myself is not allowed and the files are too many and too large.

Anyway, the main point I was trying to answer was that an open filesystem that allows hierarchical organizations of files and free access of programs to the files is far superior compared to the locked down app centric way that apple is using in iOS.
Airstash would certainly work. You've already stated you can transfer the files to USB stick, that's all you need. The drive generates its own network, so it's independent of the locked down pc.

Anyway, if android solves your issues, then great. I just think too many people go into the "the ipad cant do that!" mindset without really looking into solutions (like airstash).
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Airstash would certainly work. You've already stated you can transfer the files to USB stick, that's all you need. The drive generates its own network, so it's independent of the locked down pc.

Anyway, if android solves your issues, then great. I just think too many people go into the "the ipad cant do that!" mindset without really looking into solutions (like airstash).
The PC is locked down and does not allow to connect wirelessly to a Airstash (or the iPad when you use Apps like Goodreader or Airshare).

The PC does not allow adhoc networks or such. The only thing it allows is setting up a wifi VPN connection to the home base and then use the internet through their servers for email. But since IP is an issue email and cloud services are a no go.
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The PC is locked down and does not allow to connect wirelessly to a Airstash
It doesn't need to, so long as it has USB ports. The PC talks to USB, the Airstash then talks wirelessly to the iPad.

http://www.airstash.com/#specs
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 05:08 PM   #23
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iPads sure are fun devices. Great for media/internet consumption. However, if you ever want to do work on one, you'll find its limitations start to become annoying. Fast.

To be honest, I'm looking forward to switching out my iPad for a thin laptop. All I use it for is the internet, YouTube, Netflix and Reddit. I have my PC for gaming and, sure I could buy a Bluetooth keyboard to write up my notes in Evernote for the iPad, I still wouldn't be able to code on the thing.

Roll on the 2013 MBA/Retina MBP.
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The PC is locked down and does not allow to connect wirelessly to a Airstash (or the iPad when you use Apps like Goodreader or Airshare).

The PC does not allow adhoc networks or such. The only thing it allows is setting up a wifi VPN connection to the home base and then use the internet through their servers for email. But since IP is an issue email and cloud services are a no go.
As already pointed out, the PC does not connect to anything. All you'll do is plug in the USB stick like usual, transfer your files to it like usual, then once on the Airstash, the Airstash itself creates a wireless network for the iPad to connect to. The PC has no part, and can remain locked down.

That's the whole point of the Airstash - getting files off computers that cannot connect to a network itself.
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