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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:25 PM   #1
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Refurbished 13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Models Appear in Apple's Online Store




Apple today added the new 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro to the refurbished section of its online store, giving prospective customers the opportunity to save 15% compared to brand-new machine. Currently available models include:

- 2.5 GHz Core i5 with 128 GB storage: $1439, compared to $1699 new

- 2.5 GHz Core i5 with 256 GB storage: $1699, compared to $1999 new

- 2.9 GHz Core i7 with 512 GB storage: $2289, compared to $2689 new

All three models are listed as shipping in 1-3 business days.

As with all of Apple's refurbished products, the 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro units have been thoroughly tested and reconditioned and carry a one-year warranty equal to that offered on brand-new machines.

The addition of the 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro to Apple's refurbished store comes roughly two weeks after the appearance of 15-inch models. But with the 13-inch models having just been introduced in October, some four months after the launch of the 15-inch models, the smaller Retina MacBook Pro has made the transition to the refurbished store much more quickly than its larger sibling.

(Thanks, Alan!)

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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:27 PM   #2
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I'm holding out until the updates, if Apple do discontinue the classic MacBook Pro line I would assume the price on the retina models would decrease.
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$1439 sounds like a good price for a NEW one... Should have been around that price to begin with.
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:30 PM   #4
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*continues to wait for 13" rMBA*

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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:33 PM   #5
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Thats actually not too terribly bad. With the discounted price, you get can get a retina 13 inch MBP for only 200-300 more depending on the model and customization. Awesome news for those of us with 4+ year old MBPs
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:42 PM   #6
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*continues to wait for 13" rMBA*

Is the pixel density on the MBA higher than the standard (non retina) MBP?
If so, then a retina MBA would go beyond the 227ppi of the current PPI on the retina MBP!

Or maybe they are equal and I'm just getting excited
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:46 PM   #7
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Is the pixel density on the MBA higher than the standard (non retina) MBP?
If so, then a retina MBA would go beyond the 227ppi of the current PPI on the retina MBP!

Or maybe they are equal and I'm just getting excited
The 13" MBA has a 1440x900 screen, vs the 13" cMBP that has a 1280x800 screen.

However, I doubt a rMBA would have a 2880x1800 screen, they simply stick to the 2560x1600 screen.
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:49 PM   #8
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*continues to wait for 13" rMBA*

It may be a while. Battery life would be the issue. That said, I'd really like to see an 11.6" model with a Retina Display (whether they call it a "Pro" or an "Air" doesn't matter to me).
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:32 PM   #9
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$1439 sounds like a good price for a NEW one... Should have been around that price to begin with.
There's little competition, so I can see them trying to get a premium price. Once it becomes the only rMBP I think we'll see the price drop to closer to this.
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There's little competition, so I can see them trying to get a premium price. Once it becomes the only rMBP I think we'll see the price drop to closer to this.
There's little competition in the 15" arena too, and yet the rMBP 15" managed to be priced very close to a 15" cMBP, in fact, the Retina display becomes a no-cost option if you configure both the 15" cMBP and the 15" rMBP to the same specs.

Yet, the 13" rMBP has the display as a 200$ option. A similarly configured 13" cMBP is 200$ cheaper.

There's no explanation for that, you can't spin this kind of stuff (well, you'll try...).
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:40 PM   #11
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Ohh. I like that. And better chances of a monitor without IR when refurbished.
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:47 PM   #12
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There's little competition in the 15" arena too, and yet the rMBP 15" managed to be priced very close to a 15" cMBP, in fact, the Retina display becomes a no-cost option if you configure both the 15" cMBP and the 15" rMBP to the same specs.

Yet, the 13" rMBP has the display as a 200$ option. A similarly configured 13" cMBP is 200$ cheaper.

There's no explanation for that, you can't spin this kind of stuff (well, you'll try...).
The price is based on whatever the market will bear, not what someone on an Internet forum may or may not consider a "fair" price. My guess is that the 13" rMBP as it is today appeals to the pre-2010 Air crowd looking for a premium ultralight. Apple may also have been deliberately attempting to manage demand for the 13" because of yield issues. They have done massive price drops in the past (the 2010 MacBook Air comes to mind).

The 15" rMBP may have been priced a bit more "aggressively" since it is already a more expensive machine. Arguably it is the 15" cMBP that is more overpriced compared to the Windows competition.

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There's little competition in the 15" arena too, and yet the rMBP 15" managed to be priced very close to a 15" cMBP, in fact, the Retina display becomes a no-cost option if you configure both the 15" cMBP and the 15" rMBP to the same specs.

Yet, the 13" rMBP has the display as a 200$ option. A similarly configured 13" cMBP is 200$ cheaper.

There's no explanation for that, you can't spin this kind of stuff (well, you'll try...).
What does the "c" before "MBP" stand for? Sure hope it aint crap...
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There's little competition in the 15" arena too, and yet the rMBP 15" managed to be priced very close to a 15" cMBP, in fact, the Retina display becomes a no-cost option if you configure both the 15" cMBP and the 15" rMBP to the same specs.

Yet, the 13" rMBP has the display as a 200$ option. A similarly configured 13" cMBP is 200$ cheaper.

There's no explanation for that, you can't spin this kind of stuff (well, you'll try...).
I checked the UK store, and 15" rMBP is about £200 less than an equivalent non-retina, while the 13" rMBP is £200-£300 more than the equivalent non-retina. Actually, the cheapest 15" rMBP is just £100 more than 13" rMBP with same memory and SSD but dual core instead of quad core processor. 15" rMBP is absolutely worth the money. 13" rMBP isn't.


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Sure there is. Is it worth it to me, the customer making the decision, to pay $200 more for the rMBP in order to get a machine that's nearly a pound lighter and has a better display? If yes, then it's a "fair" price to me. If not, then it isn't. Since I'm not in the market for a 15" notebook, Apple's relative pricing on the 15" models is irrelevant.
At home, I have a 13" MBP. Apart from the price vs. 15", I preferred the 13" not because it has a smaller screen size, but because it has less weight. With the 15" rMBP, that's not an argument anymore. It doesn't feel bigger (in the sense of harder to carry or transport).

Unless you get the cheapest 13" rMBP, you get a vastly superior 15" rMBP for just £100 more. There's absolutely no way I would buy a 13" rMBP today. The original 13" MBP + BYOR (bring your own RAM), or the cheaper rMBP with 16 GB RAM are by far the best buys and all the others are rather pointless.

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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:39 PM   #15
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The refurb store is a good deal - I haven't bought a "new" Mac in a long, long time.
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The refurb store is a good deal - I haven't bought a "new" Mac in a long, long time.
Same here refurb plus Apple Care = NEW !!!

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The refurb store is a good deal - I haven't bought a "new" Mac in a long, long time.
I agree....we purchased two iMacs in 2008 when we redid our library...one was a refurb ... ended up with a larger HD than I paid for, and it's worked fine...
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Mac Horizon in Hollywood CA has a good selection of used or pre-owned macs.
Currently they have a used macbook pro 13" 2.9ghz i7 and also macbook pro 15" 2.2ghz i7 Quad.
We live all in Hollywood. More or less.

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Mac Horizon in Hollywood CA has a good selection of used or pre-owned macs.
Currently they have a used macbook pro 13" 2.9ghz i7 and also macbook pro 15" 2.2ghz i7 Quad.
blatant publicity

I really do not likr the rMBP-13" as mu auxiliary machine

``i for one am holding out for the r13MBA
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$1439 sounds like a good price for a NEW one... Should have been around that price to begin with.
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I wouldn't mind buying a refurbished desktop because I could get a new keyboard and mouse... Those are the places somebody else touched the most...

But unless Apple change whole new exterior parts, I'm not buying refurbished laptop or tablet...
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I wouldn't mind buying a refurbished desktop because I could get a new keyboard and mouse... Those are the places somebody else touched the most...

But unless Apple change whole new exterior parts, I'm not buying refurbished laptop or tablet...


please search for Lysol disinfecting wipes on my new refurbed MBP.

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$1439 sounds like a good price for a NEW one... Should have been around that price to begin with.
The next gen retina’s will be significantly cheaper, as Apple prepare to discontinue the cMBP’s. My guess is that they’ll bring the price of the retinas down to maybe a hundred or two more than the current cMBP’s cost, then discount the cMBP’s a tad before their demise.
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Still cant justify these over a mba. $400 more for a bigger/heavier laptop with better processor and screen.
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Still cant justify these over a mba. $400 more for a bigger/heavier laptop with better processor and screen.
Compare to a Macbook Air, if you need a (2560x1440)+(2560x1440)+(1920x1200) vs. the Air only being able to add ONE 2560x1440 then it makes sense. If you need that.
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