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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:11 AM   #1
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Apple Looking to Hire Writers to Enhance Siri's Witty Personality




MIT Technology Review has dug up a job ad posted by Apple on LinkedIn appealing to writers to help make Siri more conversational.
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"[S]omeone who combines a love for language, wordplay, and conversation with demonstrated experience in bringing creative content to life within an intense technical environment."
The ad notes that writers who apply will also need "experience in writing character-driven dialog", a good vocabulary and, ideally, knowledge of more than one language. The goal of the hirings would be to "evolve and enrich Siri."

Siri has been known for her wit and personality, with Apple attempting to allow Siri to build emotional ties with users.
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Apple focused on keeping Siri's personality "friendly and humble -- but also with an edge". According to their source, they were thinking "How would we want a person to respond?" while developing the software.
After scaling back Siri's original feature set for its initial launch through Apple, the company has been working to expand compatibility to new devices such as the iPad as well as new languages. Apple has also improved Siri in iOS 6 with new movie, sports and restaurant features, and is set to introduce movie ticket purchases through Fandango with the upcoming iOS 6.1.

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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:14 AM   #2
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Nor normally so cynical with respect to Apple but perhaps they could hire some backend engineers to make Siri respond faster? Google Voice takes less than a second most of the time. Siri takes 2-3 seconds just to recognise your voice.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:15 AM   #3
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Money well spent

How about fix the most basic cockups first?

Temperature here is currently -3 CELSIUS. If I ask Siri what the temperature is in Fahrenheit it just repeats the 'witty' Celsius temperature by saying "Brr! its -3 outside.".

Basic little things like this really shouldn't take a few seconds to fix.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:12 PM   #4
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Money well spent

How about fix the most basic cockups first?

Temperature here is currently -3 CELSIUS. If I ask Siri what the temperature is in Fahrenheit it just repeats the 'witty' Celsius temperature by saying "Brr! its -3 outside.".

Basic little things like this really shouldn't take a few seconds to fix.
http://www.mcelhearn.com/2012/09/20/...in-centigrade/

On the iPhone, set your Weather app to C or F. Siri will respond in those units. On the iPad, it's hidden away in the Clock app. C or F. Go figure.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:13 PM   #5
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Thank goodness they are taking care of this before they update the MacPro.
Gotta have priorities.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 03:28 AM   #6
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Thank goodness they are taking care of this before they update the MacPro.
Gotta have priorities.
1. You don't know if this is being done before any Mac Pro update. 2. Do you really want dialog specialists doing hardware & software design?
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 03:09 PM   #7
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Thank goodness they are taking care of this before they update the MacPro.
Gotta have priorities.
It's such a shame that such a huge company like Apple can only work on one thing at a time, right?
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:53 PM   #8
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http://www.mcelhearn.com/2012/09/20/...in-centigrade/

On the iPhone, set your Weather app to C or F. Siri will respond in those units. On the iPad, it's hidden away in the Clock app. C or F. Go figure.
That's not the problem he was talking about. He was referring to actual functionality (the conversion) rather than a useless response.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 10:03 PM   #9
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Money well spent

How about fix the most basic cockups first?

Temperature here is currently -3 CELSIUS. If I ask Siri what the temperature is in Fahrenheit it just repeats the 'witty' Celsius temperature by saying "Brr! its -3 outside.".

Basic little things like this really shouldn't take a few seconds to fix.

Fahrenheit is ****ing stupid and you all should start using Celsius like the rest of the world does. It's much easier and you won't have such problems (which is HUGE) ... not it isn't, just kiddin'.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 04:12 AM   #10
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Fahrenheit is ****ing stupid and you all should start using Celsius like the rest of the world does. It's much easier and you won't have such problems (which is HUGE) ... not it isn't, just kiddin'.
I/we do use Celsius. I was giving an example of one of the many cockups.

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1. You don't know if this is being done before any Mac Pro update. 2. Do you really want dialog specialists doing hardware & software design?
Might want to read his post again, this time with your sarcasm detector turned on
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 11:26 AM   #11
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I get the presentation argument someone made much further up this thread. My issue is that Siri's voice recognition still isn't that great. A lof time she gets what you ask wrong. Sometimes you have to repeat things like 3 or 4 times before she understands. At that point, it would have been faster just to do whatever the task was myself. When she is working great, it definitely a useful feature but she doesn't understand things nearly as well as Google's app does.

Maybe they are working hard to fix that and we're just not seeing stuff about it, but for now I'd rather that part of Siri get fixed before expanding her dialog.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 07:00 AM   #12
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Money well spent

How about fix the most basic cockups first?

Temperature here is currently -3 CELSIUS. If I ask Siri what the temperature is in Fahrenheit it just repeats the 'witty' Celsius temperature by saying "Brr! its -3 outside.".

Basic little things like this really shouldn't take a few seconds to fix.
I'm glad to hear that Apple tries to teach Americans the superior metric system.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 09:17 AM   #13
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I'm glad to hear that Apple tries to teach Americans the superior metric system.
Given that I'm in the UK I dont see who that comment was really aimed at. For what its worth we use the metric system. Older generations however used the imperial system, so it would make sense for Siri to be able to tell you both on request.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 11:58 AM   #14
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:36 AM   #15
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Nor normally so cynical with respect to Apple but perhaps they could hire some backend engineers to make Siri respond faster? Google Voice takes less than a second most of the time. Siri takes 2-3 seconds just to recognise your voice.
Faster and more accurate, would be my first focus. But maybe they are already doing that.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 04:15 PM   #16
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Nor normally so cynical with respect to Apple but perhaps they could hire some backend engineers to make Siri respond faster? Google Voice takes less than a second most of the time. Siri takes 2-3 seconds just to recognise your voice.
Well one thing is lets be blunt Apple is playing it cheap on processing power for siri. Compared to google that will start transmitting your voice right off as it is recording. This gives Google servers a head start at translating what you want. Another thing I believe Google is doing is using predictive algorathuims to start perfecting data on its back side while it is still translating what you said. This means the turn around time from when you say your last word is quicker because a lot more work as been done ahead of time. Draw back is when they (google) guesses wrong they have to double up on getting everything. Also means they might be using more process running multiple guesses at the same time.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:14 AM   #17
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George Lucas is free now!! He is a MASTER of witty dialogue.
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George Lucas is free now!! He is a MASTER of witty dialogue.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 08:23 AM   #19
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This is it. The beginning of the end - and we asked for it.

From HHGTTG:

The Sirius Cybernetics Corporation invented a concept called Genuine People Personalities ("GPP") which imbue their products with intelligence and emotion.

We're doomed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technol...cs_Corporation
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Siri had such huge potential, but even Apple doesn't take it seriously. When I saw it demoed I was so impressed. I do use it for reminders and some other tasks while I'm driving, but it doesn't offer anything the competition can't at this point.
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Siri had such huge potential, but even Apple doesn't take it seriously. When I saw it demoed I was so impressed. I do use it for reminders and some other tasks while I'm driving, but it doesn't offer anything the competition can't at this point.
And? Apple might not be trying to make something super special at this point. After all, who cares is it has AI that can make it seem like your best friend if the key systems are borked. Baby steps are sometimes best.

As for this position, if true it sounds more like an add on to the many engineers they have in the mix. Someone more of a creative type to think up natural language input folks might use and give back more natural replies. They know that folks like to prank Siri so why not include some appropriate replies. Better to have one person working on this than the key engineers who should be working in her reply times, search results etc.

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[Edit: I feel I need to qualify this response. My problem is that it feels like it's been a while since Apple wowed us with a bit of true innovation.
And how are they supposed to do that. Short of building the T-100, where is this innovation supposed to come from. Everything they would be doing would just be tweaking an existing thing.

Heck even building the t-100 would be true innovation since they didn't think it up but copied the idea from a movie (same with UI glasses, watches, TV walls etc. all from books, movies or TV shows)
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This is it. The beginning of the end - and we asked for it.

From HHGTTG:

The Sirius Cybernetics Corporation invented a concept called Genuine People Personalities ("GPP") which imbue their products with intelligence and emotion.

We're doomed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technol...cs_Corporation
quit supporting apple then. by then, apple will realize that people want quality computer.
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quit supporting apple then. by then, apple will realize that people want quality computer.
i think you took my post too seriously.
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How about making Siri WORK, first?

It doesn't matter if your Internet connection is 10 Mbps, 30 Mbps, 50 Mbps, or 100 Mbps.
It doesn't matter if your latency/ping is sub 100 ms, sub 50 ms, or sub 10 ms.

Siri just takes such a *long* time to respond. To do anything. Not just looking up stuff, but dictation. Tap the mic, say a simple work such a "hi" or "go", and you end up waiting for anything to happen. Sometimes you get a spinning animation that never seems to end, sometimes you end up with simply no response.
Ask Siri a question, and after waiting a painfully long time, you *might* get a response. Maybe she'll just say "I'm sorry, I'm having trouble right now. Try again later." or something similar.

It's been over a YEAR, and Siri is still nothing more than a useless gimmick to most.
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tim cook letting to many bone heads make the decisions and letting alot of dumb ones slip through the cracks....
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