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Old Jan 21, 2013, 12:19 PM   #1
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Shipping Estimates for 21.5-Inch iMac Begin Slipping to 2-3 Weeks




Shipping estimates for new orders of 21.5-inch iMac models began slipping in Apple's online stores in many European countries such as the United Kingdom today, moving from 7-10 business days to 2-3 weeks. The changes have not yet propagated to stores for other regions.

Estimates for the 21.5-inch models had remained steady at 7-10 business days since just after they became available for sale late last year. Apple has also been quoting even longer estimates for the 27-inch models, which are reportedly seeing more significant issues with display production due to a new lamination process. Estimates for new 27-inch iMac orders remain at 3-4 weeks for the time being, essentially in line with their status since just after pre-orders went live.

(Thanks, Neil!)

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Old Jan 21, 2013, 12:25 PM   #2
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*hugs my 2012 27" iMac*
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 12:25 PM   #3
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I guess they haven't fixed the screen production difficulties.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 12:57 PM   #4
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I guess they haven't fixed the screen production difficulties.
Nope, it's just Cook's terrible mistake in accepting a position he was never ready for - it's as if Apple has no COO right now.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 01:03 PM   #5
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Nope, it's just Cook's terrible mistake in accepting a position he was never ready for - it's as if Apple has no COO right now.
Yes because this is the first time Apple has had long delays with the first generation of a new build.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 01:10 PM   #6
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Nope, it's just Cook's terrible mistake in accepting a position he was never ready for - it's as if Apple has no COO right now.
Given that you clearly have a lot more knowledge on who's a good choice to run Apple, who would you have running it right now?

The way I see it, Tim was the only logical choice. He'd already run the company for a short stint in 2004, then from pretty much 2009 onwards.

It's way too early to decide if he's a good candidate as Apple is well known for having a long roadmap. However even since he took the position on, he's reinstated charitable giving programs, got rid of the bad eggs (namely Forstall), got the right group of staff into the right roles (e.g putting Ive in charge of Human Interface) and made a commitment to bringing production back to Apples home country.

None of these things would have happened under Steve. That much we know from the history of the company.

Sure, he's made some pretty glaring mistakes (e.g hiring Browlett) however some of the perceived mistakes cant really be attributed to him. Maps for example - that wasn't something that would have been decided shortly before it was released, Apple would have been working on that for a good few years, and whilst that doesn't excuse it being released in a half-assed state, he made right by ditching the people in charge of getting Maps to market, and putting someone in charge who had a good track record of getting the job done.

He could turn out to be the worse CEO ever. But we wont know yet - give it at least 2 years.

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Finally got to see these at the apple store recently and the first thing I noticed was how awful the display looked compared to my retina mbp. Would have loved to see an upgrade here, but I realize doubling the pixels on the 27 inch model will be no easy feat, let alone the hardware needed to drive it.
Once you go retina, you wont go back

I've had my rMBP sitting next to 2 standard monitors...I ordered a new monitor arm last week so I can move one of the monitors over to the side and use the rMPB screen as my main one - its just so friggin' beautiful!

Other than screen size though, there's really no purpose for the iMac anymore. I've always been a desktop guy but to be honest, having moved from a Mac Pro to the rMBP it's just so much more convenient.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 04:17 PM   #7
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Hopefully they're getting ready for 2013 iMacs with 128GB or 256GB SSD's as standard instead of ridiculous "fusion" drives or drives with only 5400rmp speeds as if it's the early 2000's.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 04:21 PM   #8
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Hopefully they're getting ready for 2013 iMacs with 128GB or 256GB SSD's as standard instead of ridiculous "fusion" drives or drives with only 5400rmp speeds as if it's the early 2000's.
lol even my old machines from like 99 had 7200rpm drives. What makes it even more ridiculous is that a desktop is usinga 5400rpm drive. My hp laptop from 2009 has a 7200rpm hdd, and an ssd I added. It came with the 7200rpm drive.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 06:12 PM   #9
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Hopefully they're getting ready for 2013 iMacs with 128GB or 256GB SSD's as standard instead of ridiculous "fusion" drives or drives with only 5400rmp speeds as if it's the early 2000's.
Funny because it's 2012 and 2.5" 1TB 7,200rpm drives are still scarcely available... hence why Apple isn't using them in the 21.5" iMac.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 03:22 AM   #10
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Hopefully they're getting ready for 2013 iMacs with 128GB or 256GB SSD's as standard instead of ridiculous "fusion" drives or drives with only 5400rmp speeds as if it's the early 2000's.
You must but understand the benefits of the fusion drive. It doesn't matter if its only 5400 rpm. Think about it for a while before you decide a 7200 rpm hd will be faster than a 5400 fusion drive. Or that a 128gb flash will be more convenient than a 1.12 TB fusion
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 06:41 AM   #11
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Hopefully they're getting ready for 2013 iMacs with 128GB or 256GB SSD's as standard instead of ridiculous "fusion" drives or drives with only 5400rmp speeds as if it's the early 2000's.
I'd rather have 1.1Tb Fusion then be limited to 256Gb or pay $1300 for Apple top SSD.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 05:05 PM   #12
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Nope, it's just Cook's terrible mistake in accepting a position he was never ready for - it's as if Apple has no COO right now.
Jeff Williams would disagree.

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US shows 7-10 days, UK shows 2-3 weeks.
They should put UK in the headline then.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 07:21 AM   #13
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Nope, it's just Cook's terrible mistake in accepting a position he was never ready for - it's as if Apple has no COO right now.
If Cook was not ready for the position Jobs would have never recommended him for the position. And never had made him temporary CEO those times too. Jobs knew when someone was ready to handle a position well.

But the 2nd half of your comment makes sense. Cook IS ready to be CEO. But who has taken over Cooks old role as COO? I think there needs to be someone.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 01:04 PM   #14
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Still order them guys, it's worth the wait!

Using my special iMac now. After spending the day on my crappy PC at work, it's nice to come home to a good looking, easy to use, quick silent machine.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 01:13 PM   #15
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I think in this particularly case Apple made a mistake with the early presentation last year.

I mean, in contrary to the long waiting times for iOS devices which are mostly caused by their great popularity, the issue this time clearly is some kind of mismanagement. If a supplier isn't able to provide enough quality AND quantity, you have to wait until he can deal with it or change horses!

Besides, I still think the latest iMac is some great device!
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 10:42 AM   #16
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I guess they haven't fixed the screen production difficulties.
Maybe, Just maybe, they have got further improvements in the screen production, but are now having to service both iMac AND Thunderbolt production.

There is logic to this. I cant see that there would be a sudden uplift in iMac demand right now, especially as there would have been a lot of initial sales due to the model refresh. On the other hand, I cant see them getting worse at making the displays. So a sudden increase in lead-times is likely to be either some increase in sales I cant think of (like companies getting orders in at the start of the calendar year), or there is extra production demand - ie TBD.

I hope so. My rMBP is feeling that it has married bellow itself - being connected to a 3 year old Dell screen for half its working life. (which isn't actually THAT bad it has to be said)

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Old Jan 22, 2013, 02:41 PM   #17
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Placed my order a month ago today. Still in the same state as a few hours after submitting the order. Phone reps have no idea when it'll ship.

See http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...510489&page=83
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1Qxb2ZYUFZTQ2c to see the crazy ship times and orders.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 01:01 PM   #18
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*hugs my 2012 27" iMac*
That was so last year.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 12:46 PM   #19
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It's the snow!
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 03:26 PM   #20
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It's the snow!
Or maybe people are actually buying iMacs in unexpected volumes? Do we remember when all the Stupids (about 1 year ago) predicted that Apple was ready to kill off the iMac line because the refresh was long overdue?

So it went from.... "iMacs are a dead product line" TO "Apple can't make iMacs fast enough to meet demand".
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 04:35 PM   #21
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My god! When the iMac fiasco will end?
Almost fab....
I remind you all that it all started in jun! ( when the first :" iMac production problems " rumors hit the web)
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 01:00 PM   #22
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Finally got to see these at the apple store recently and the first thing I noticed was how awful the display looked compared to my retina mbp. Would have loved to see an upgrade here, but I realize doubling the pixels on the 27 inch model will be no easy feat, let alone the hardware needed to drive it.
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Finally got to see these at the apple store recently and the first thing I noticed was how awful the display looked compared to my retina mbp. Would have loved to see an upgrade here, but I realize doubling the pixels on the 27 inch model will be no easy feat, let alone the hardware needed to drive it.
I noticed the same as well. I was in there to get a motherboard replaced for my rMBP and I played around with the 21 inch and I couldn't believe how bad it looked.
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I noticed the same as well. I was in there to get a motherboard replaced for my rMBP and I played around with the 21 inch and I couldn't believe how bad it looked.
Agreed, the 21" display is pretty bad, you can actually see dots separating pixels in images etc, text is awful, color is good though. The problem is not as bad on the 27

I really hope they bring better screens next time round hopefully IGZO
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Need to put perceptive on this discussing pixels, when we first used Macintosh for work the screen was monochrome and was what 8" or 9" inches across
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