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Old Jan 24, 2013, 03:29 AM   #1
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High Volumes Of Spam At Certain Times Of The Day

As the title says...This seems to be becoming the norm now...GMT 5AM-GMT 10AM that time frame sees the front pages spammed with all kinds of garbage. I report all I see, and I suppose it's a slack time on the site when US users are going to bed and European members are just rising. It is annoying though.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 04:36 AM   #2
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Thats probably because as you said its when the forum is used the least so there is less people to report the spam.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 05:00 AM   #3
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Thats probably because as you said its when the forum is used the least so there is less people to report the spam.
It's worse today...I have reported 26 and they are still rolling in.....Maybe we need a Mod on call I tend to be awake at the crack of dawn, and frequently find the forums overloaded with junk....I will persevere...I Hate spam
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It's worse today...I have reported 26 and they are still rolling in.....Maybe we need a Mod on call I tend to be awake at the crack of dawn, and frequently find the forums overloaded with junk....I will persevere...I Hate spam
Yep totally agree - I've put in a bunch of reports too this morning. (gives me something useful to do).

spammers do pick the crossover times as they know their posts are likely to be removed, but at these times they will be displayed for the greater amount of time; and thus potentially clicked more.
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It's worse today...I have reported 26 and they are still rolling in.....Maybe we need a Mod on call I tend to be awake at the crack of dawn, and frequently find the forums overloaded with junk....I will persevere...I Hate spam
I've been doing my best trying to keep up.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 05:09 AM   #6
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I've been doing my best trying to keep up.
And doing a fine job...It's just they are created faster than I can report...If I could zap 'em they wouldn't stand a chance.....Well done

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Us moderators are volunteers so none of us are likely to want to be "on call". However we are geographically distributed to try and provide as good coverage as we can.

Please keep reporting the spam. It helps us
Oh I will.....When I was a Mod on a windows site years ago I had the nickname "Spamkiller"

It's not every day, but the past few weeks have been insane.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 05:18 AM   #7
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Just a little tip.

You don't have to report every post made by the same spammer, we can get rid of them and all of their posts from a single report.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 05:03 AM   #8
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Us moderators are volunteers so none of us are likely to want to be "on call". However we are geographically distributed to try and provide as good coverage as we can.

Please keep reporting the spam. It helps us
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From memory I don't think it is possible. The report time is linked to some other VBulletin setting which shouldn't be changed (or something like that ).
Post reports are tied to the email flood check. It could obviously be changed, but would require custom coding, or a compromise.
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As the title says...This seems to be becoming the norm now...GMT 5AM-GMT 10AM that time frame sees the front pages spammed with all kinds of garbage. I report all I see, and I suppose it's a slack time on the site when US users are going to bed and European members are just rising. It is annoying though.
I was thinking you were going to say spam intensified around the time of lunch breaks instead of spammers trying to grab clicks in the middle of the night. I guess that's a bigger window.
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If you need additional human spam monitors for different time zones, I would be willing to volunteer as I am based in East Asia
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Old Feb 2, 2013, 11:48 AM   #12
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No New Threads unless x posts

Why don't you just set the post count to x, and not allow new signups to create a new thread until they have x reply's in other threads?

Seems it would smack them down quite quick.- at least the new thread spams, which appear to be the biggest culprits.
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Why don't you just set the post count to x, and not allow new signups to create a new thread until they have x reply's in other threads?

Seems it would smack them down quite quick.- at least the new thread spams, which appear to be the biggest culprits.
What happens if a new member joins and is unable to post their question?
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What happens if a new member joins and is unable to post their question?
I would agree, I think a lot of members come here after googling an issue. They need help, so they post a question. And then GGJstudios comes and tells them that there is already X amount of threads on the topics already.
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I would agree, I think a lot of members come here after googling an issue. They need help, so they post a question. And then GGJstudios comes and tells them that there is already X amount of threads on the topics already.
Thats how I arrived here, and look at me now. Coming up 5 years later and still hanging around.
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What happens if a new member joins and is unable to post their question?
Simple actually,

Many options to combat this:
Add to the setup instructions that posting a new thread requires (x) reply's to any board.

MR has no problem limiting other thread(s) to post counts.

Or, you can force a new signup to a hidden thread forcing a reply; then open the doors to new thread post(s).

I think many new comers can definitely find a million threads that they can reply to.

IDK, just throwing out ideas to lighten your load(s) as we all know spam is a PITA.

Good luck either way.
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Simple actually,

Many options to combat this:
Add to the setup instructions that posting a new thread requires (x) reply's to any board.

MR has no problem limiting other thread(s) to post counts.

Or, you can force a new signup to a hidden thread forcing a reply; then open the doors to new thread post(s).

I think many new comers can definitely find a million threads that they can reply to.

IDK, just throwing out ideas to lighten your load(s) as we all know spam is a PITA.

Good luck either way.
Please don't take any offence, any help to lighten the load would be appreciated.

I was just of the opinion that most members join to ask a question and they won't know about searching so are unlikely to be able to find a relevant thread, tuhus create a new one.
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Why don't you just set the post count to x, and not allow new signups to create a new thread until they have x reply's in other threads?

Seems it would smack them down quite quick.- at least the new thread spams, which appear to be the biggest culprits.
That would be effective... Although it might just start them spamming IN other people's threads, which would be possibly worse.

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If you need additional human spam monitors for different time zones, I would be willing to volunteer as I am based in East Asia
Same here - Living in NZ I'm on at times when many of the Americans and Europeans are asleep or at work. We could have janitors, where their only moderating ability is deleting spam threads
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Can't you just fix the sign up system so only human have access? Maybe an email verification or something.
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Personally I like the human acceptance of new members method, but this can be annoying if large volumes of bot traffic is coming in and thus makes it harder to weed out the genuine humans.

Some of the suggestions on here are ones I have used in the past (and the custom registration question and Q&A authentication are two of the best when used properly).

The restriction of new members posting is possibly one of the best (users with <25 posts would have to have each post manually approved by a mod) - this is one that not keeps the spammers out it also helps wheedle out hate posts by humans looking for traffic links to their own blogs etc).

just a few suggestions I can think of that could fit with the friendly approach of the MR site, without coming across as overly draconian or unfriendly.
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One observation is that spammers like to click buttons, as almost every spam thread is tagged resolved. I'm curious to see if they'd fill out a CSS hidden form that sent the thread to moderation.
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Can't you just fix the sign up system so only human have access? Maybe an email verification or something.
Email verification doesn't even slow down many automated spammers.
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We could have janitors, where their only moderating ability is deleting spam threads
A similar thing was tried some years ago with users being "mini mods" but it just wasn't effective and was subsequently dropped.

A lot of the spam that comes in actually gets nuked before the members ever see it. We have ways of keeping it to a minimum, but the spammers always find ways of posting their stuff. It's a war that will never end and all we can do is keep up in the fight.

Keep reporting what you see and we will continue cleaning up their mess.
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A similar thing was tried some years ago with users being "mini mods" but it just wasn't effective and was subsequently dropped.

A lot of the spam that comes in actually gets nuked before the members ever see it. We have ways of keeping it to a minimum, but the spammers always find ways of posting their stuff. It's a war that will never end and all we can do is keep up in the fight.

Keep reporting what you see and we will continue cleaning up their mess.
I always like when spammers post, because then I know what businesses I'll never ever ever support.

Maybe you guys should create a "blacklist" of spammers and their website/business and encourage forum members to not patronize them.
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Thats how I arrived here, and look at me now. Coming up 5 years later and still hanging around.
It is how I arrived here, too.

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Same here. Well I lurked for a good 6 months, but registered to post a question.
It was much the same for me. Actually, it was not quite six months, but I bought a MBP, and then lurked for a few months before registering to post a question.

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Please don't take any offence, any help to lighten the load would be appreciated.

I was just of the opinion that most members join to ask a question and they won't know about searching so are unlikely to be able to find a relevant thread, tuhus create a new one.
I agree completely; it takes a while to realise how the whole site works, and most newbies join to seek help as they have a problem which they would like to see addressed. When they join, they don't know about searching, and are unlikely to know that their particular issue could well have been asked already dozens of times and features in hundreds of threads.

A lot of people on the forum - and not just spammers - join, and post a few times, or sometimes only once, just to get an answer to a problem; anything which makes it more difficult for newbies to get the information they need (such as a threshold of 25 posts before you can make a thread, or even a threshold of five posts before you can create a thread), is something I'd view with some reluctance.
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