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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:41 AM   #1
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Massive Growth in Apple's Cloud-Based Services Eclipsed by Debate on Financials




While talk of flatline growth dominated media responses to Apple's financial results yesterday, the massive growth of Apple's cloud-based services appeared to go largely unnoticed.

In 2012, reports iPodNN, the number of iCloud users grew from 85 million to over 250 million. iTunes subscribers have topped 500 million, generating a record $2.1 billion profit for the quarter.

iMessage has also proven to be a hugely popular service, with users sending over two billion messages a day from over 500 million devices, with the total iMessage count now having surpassed 450 billion. Apple CEO Tim Cook addressed the focus on online and web services during yesterday's conference call:
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In terms of other services, we feel fantastic about how we're doing. In Notification Center, we've now sent over 4 trillion notifications, and this is mind-blowing. As Peter mentioned in his opening comment, for iMessage we've now sent over 450 billion and are currently sending those over 2 billion per day. With Game Center, we've got over 200 million registered users. We have 800,000 apps on the App Store with over 40 billion downloads. And so I feel really, really great about it. There is obviously more stuff we can do and you can bet we're thinking about all of it.
Cook has repeatedly referred to iCloud as a "strategy for the next decade" for Apple. He has also characterized the increasing reliance and trust consumers place on cloud-based storage and services as "truly profound" and "a fundamental shift" in the way content is accessed.

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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:44 AM   #2
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and yet i can't recover sent messages from icloud
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:46 AM   #3
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iClouded, your future is, young padawan.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:47 AM   #4
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lets just be able to save files directly to it please..

also let us use other email addresses with iCloud mail sync
and not just @icloud ones
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:59 AM   #5
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lets just be able to save files directly to it please..

also let us use other email addresses with iCloud mail sync
and not just @icloud ones
What do you mean? How would Apple sync mail that isn't their own? You can set up your mail accounts on any Apple device. They just aren't a part of iCloud.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 11:17 AM   #6
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Not sure how they would do it exactly

I just wish in apple mail it would sync my inbox and outbox between all my Macs and iPad, for my work and icloud email addresses

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What do you mean? How would Apple sync mail that isn't their own? You can set up your mail accounts on any Apple device. They just aren't a part of iCloud.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 11:17 AM   #7
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lets just be able to save files directly to it please..

also let us use other email addresses with iCloud mail sync
and not just @icloud ones
The folks running those other emails are who you need to gripe at, not Apple.
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Fix all the bugs in iCloud. It is so unreliable. Sometimes delayed mail, and the bookmarks and favorites don't always show in Safari (on my iPhone) iTunes Match screwed up the order in my smart playlists. No web hosting or iDisk like in Mobile Me.

How hard is it? Google can do it, so can DropBox and all the other cloud services.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:49 AM   #9
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Only 2 Billion iMessages a day? That equates to a single high school full of teenagers. I think they should look at those numbers again.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:50 AM   #10
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Ride my own Cloud

I'd like to be able to Bind to iCloud in a similar way to Binding to Open or Active Directory. People and companies should be able to Bind to their own Cloud service rather than just Apple's iCloud.
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Only 2 Billion iMessages a day? That equates to a single high school full of teenagers. I think they should look at those numbers again.
You think a school full of kids send over 2 billion iMessages
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Only 2 Billion iMessages a day? That equates to a single high school full of teenagers. I think they should look at those numbers again.
...Not to mention those "group chats" that you can't opt out of, so you have to either turn iMessage off or put up with people spamming the chatbox with "NI**ERZ" over and over and over...
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 12:15 PM   #13
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Fix all the bugs in iCloud. It is so unreliable. Sometimes delayed mail, and the bookmarks and favorites don't always show in Safari (on my iPhone) iTunes Match screwed up the order in my smart playlists. No web hosting or iDisk like in Mobile Me.

How hard is it? Google can do it, so can DropBox and all the other cloud services.
I don't think it's the difficulty; after all, they offered a disk in the cloud with iTools over a decade ago. Rather, it's a philosophical shift on Apple's part; a desire to move away from traditional file systems based on the fact that the learning curve for computers tends to steepen dramatically when people encounter the file system. That's why Apple's been tinkering with app based file systems and rejiggered the way Mac apps handles files ("duplicate" instead of "save as" for example). I don't think they're there yet, but I like the fact that they're working on it... hopefully, they'll succeed.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 09:49 AM   #14
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its okay so far but it needs a real data storage option.

also iMessage needs some improvements, its taking FOREVER to send a picture or it claims its sent but didnt actually arrive or the other way around.
i also still have the "bug" on ML where it shows the #1 indicator but i actually read all the messages and it doesnt go away unless i reboot. sometimes messages i read on my iPhone or iPad suddenly pop up in the middle of the convo on my mac days later

and dont even get me started on the iTunes Match or should i call it iTunes Mess
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and dont even get me started on the iTunes Match or should i call it iTunes Mess
This is the biggest disappointment for me. Match has the most potential for Apple, IMO, providing convenience and quality at a bargain price. Unfortunately it truly is a mess right now. If it's fixed, it could be huge.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 10:07 AM   #16
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yea, iCloud has real potential, but it makes me want to say "show me the money".
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This is the biggest disappointment for me. Match has the most potential for Apple, IMO, providing convenience and quality at a bargain price. Unfortunately it truly is a mess right now. If it's fixed, it could be huge.
Works fine for me. Over 20,000 songs on iPhone, iPad, computer in my study, computer at work. It even matched songs that I recorded myself from LPs.
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A few of my wishes/thoughts about Apple cloud services:

1. Apple could & should enable full i-device backups to iCloud with no size limits and for free. Right now the limit and the hassle of purchasing (especially when you have several devices) is simply not "it just works". Users should not think about it at all, if you buy Apple product, everything is safely and automatically backed up in tjhe cloud. No managing.

2. We need place for files. I think Apple is wrong with their "no visible file system at all" philosophy. At least let it be enabled for "advanced" users. Until then Dropbox is solution, but it's not 100% what is truly needed.

3. I don't like how the Photostream currently works. I want it to be fully automatic, fully sychronised with iPhoto/Aperture (also events, folders and so on) with possibilty to "stream" photos form Mac. AND - why the hell videos are still not synchronised?
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first 2 posts are negative ones. What a surprise .
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first 2 posts are negative ones. What a surprise .

i have used iCloud since day 1. Dropbox still does a lot of things better than icloud.

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Give us a Windows client for iCloud so we can drop files into it like Dropbox. That would help a bit with companies invested in iOS who are using Dropbox right now.
you go to icloud.com and you can kind of do that. i upload MS Word files into it, then open the file in pages on my phone or ipad
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i have used iCloud since day 1. Dropbox still does a lot of things better than icloud.

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you go to icloud.com and you can kind of do that. i upload MS Word files into it, then open the file in pages on my phone or ipad
I'm not sure you understand the extent of iCloud?

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My Mom is on iCloud and it is working great to keep the iPad and iPhone sync'd without a Mac.

I am not on iCloud yet, I hope to be this weekend. For it is embarrassing that my Mom is more high tech than me.
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And yet iCloud is the most convoluted of the bunch. other than backing up my iPhone data, iCloud is useless. Dropbox is a much better solution and I can access ANY document I put there on any device, any computer - WITH EASE.
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And yet iCloud is the most convoluted of the bunch. other than backing up my iPhone data, iCloud is useless. Dropbox is a much better solution and I can access ANY document I put there on any device, any computer - WITH EASE.
It could seem convoluted to you because you've grown accustomed to the traditional file system and have been managing your files that way for years. For people like my parents, accessing files from within the app is far simpler and more intuitive. My mom accesses her Pages files from her iPad and iPhone and the docs are always in sync.
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If iCloud is the future, then why isn't Apple investing some time and resources to improve it?

I keep saying, it's software not hardware that is the near term future. And Apple hasn't put nearly the resources necessary into software development on the iOS side.
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