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Old Jan 28, 2013, 12:58 PM   #1
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Apple Updates Apple TV with Up Next and Bluetooth Keyboard, New 'AppleTV3,2' Model Revealed




Alongside today's release of iOS 6.1, Apple also issued an update for the Apple TV. The new 5.2 software update includes a number of enhancements including direct iTunes in the Cloud music streaming, Bluetooth keyboard support, Up Next support, and more.
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- iTunes in the Cloud: Browse and play your purchased iTunes music directly from iCloud.
- Bluetooth keyboard: Use your Apple Wireless Keyboard to control your Apple TV. See this article for more information.
- AirPlay audio for videos: Send stereo audio from movies, TV shows, and other videos on Apple TV to AirPlay-enabled speakers and devices (including AirPort Express and other Apple TVs).
- Stability and performance: Includes performance and stability improvements with the iTunes Store, AirPlay, Netflix, iTunes Match, and wired Ethernet connections.
Curiously, Apple has released three versions of the Apple TV update, covering not only the second-generation (AppleTV2,1) and third-generation (AppleTV3,1) boxes but also a new AppleTV3,2 box. It is unclear exactly what the difference is with the new box, but the numbering scheme suggests that it is a relatively minor change.

Three versions of Apple TV 5.2 update (Source: e-lite.org)
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo noted earlier this month that Apple was preparing to launch an updated Apple TV this quarter, although it was anticipated to be a minor upgrade. Apple has not, however, made any public announcements regarding an updated Apple TV.

Update: Apple appears to be referring to the new Apple TV model with a code name of J33I, compared to the J33 code name used on the third-generation Apple TV. While we have no direct evidence, it is possible that the "I" simply refers to an international variation of the current box. Just last month, Apple launched iTunes movies in nearly four dozen new countries.

Article Link: Apple Updates Apple TV with Up Next and Bluetooth Keyboard, New 'AppleTV3,2' Model Revealed
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:00 PM   #2
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:01 PM   #3
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Was gonna pick up an Apple TV, glad I waited!

Hopefully we see this refresh with the iPad 5 in March.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:02 PM   #4
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Some nice touches in this update, The keyboard support will be nice, though I use my iPad and iPhone for this mostly now.

Adding more applications, and a browser are highly requested (by myself )
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:05 PM   #5
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Where the Heck is NAS Support ?!?!?!!

Meh....

I want to see NAS support so I don't have to have my main Mac on all the time, just to watch a movie. It's not an unusual request, Apple.

Virtually every other network streaming player out there does this.
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Do most people have more than one icloud account in their home? If everyone in your house has their own then what? How about some support for those who do. It goes back to the multiple apple ID issue that will not be fixed anytime soon.
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Do most people have more than one icloud account in their home? If everyone in your house has their own then what? How about some support for those who do. It goes back to the multiple apple ID issue that will not be fixed anytime soon.
The Apple TV allows you to login with multiple iTunes accounts in the settings.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 02:09 PM   #8
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Do most people have more than one icloud account in their home? If everyone in your house has their own then what? How about some support for those who do. It goes back to the multiple apple ID issue that will not be fixed anytime soon.
Not sure what your problem is here.

I have 5 People - each with their own Mac, iPhone and Apple TV

Each Device has home sharing turned on using my iCloud credentials

5 of the Macs are authorised for all 5 accounts (this authorisation limit is the only problem since I actually have 4 Macs that I use plus a Mac used as a media centre in addition to those belonging to other family members)

Every Mac on the network can be seen and items copied from it in iTunes for OSX - provided they're switched on
Every iOS device can access it's own content in the cloud and onboard and send it to any Apple TV
Every iOS device can be used as a controller for the Apple TV
I happen to have a sixth Mac which I run as a media centre - always on and connected to about 4TB of content

So as long as a user comes home now and then they can have local access to, and therefore copy to their device, anything that might be available on any of those other accounts.
At no time do they need to log in using any other apple ID - works pretty seamlessly

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Do most people have more than one icloud account in their home? If everyone in your house has their own then what? How about some support for those who do. It goes back to the multiple apple ID issue that will not be fixed anytime soon.
This is a major issue for my family. We have several itunes accounts in our household, only 1 with itunes match. We switch between them regularly. Every time we switch out of the 1 with itunes match, we lose the match data, and if we want to stream music from the cloud, we have to enable it again (which takes quite a bit of time). Ive taken to just using ipad/iphone through airplay to stream which is quite easy, but it would be nice to have a single login for music/ itunes match which is seperate from the main itunes store account.

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The bluetooth keyboard support is sweet, I need to pick up that new Logitech Easy Switch Keyboard now.... that would be a perfect match!
Except that it costs more than the Apple TV itself.
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Meh....

I want to see NAS support so I don't have to have my main Mac on all the time, just to watch a movie. It's not an unusual request, Apple.

Virtually every other network streaming player out there does this.
I assume they want you to utilize iCloud as opposed to your local system for this. I know it doesn't fix the issue of ripped movies, since they don't yet match our own personal video content at this time.

Would be nice for Apple to at least offer that option too.
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I assume they want you to utilize iCloud as opposed to your local system for this. I know it doesn't fix the issue of ripped movies, since they don't yet match our own personal video content at this time.

Would be nice for Apple to at least offer that option too.
Dream on. The media companies are the roadblock there, not Apple. And it ain't changing anytime soon. In fact, it's technically illegal to even rip your movies from DVD.
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Meh....

I want to see NAS support so I don't have to have my main Mac on all the time, just to watch a movie. It's not an unusual request, Apple.

Virtually every other network streaming player out there does this.
It would be better if they just put a freakin hardrive back in. Stupid move taking out.
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It would be better if they just put a freakin hardrive back in. Stupid move taking out.
Which may be the reason for 3.2.
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It would be better if they just put a freakin hardrive back in. Stupid move taking out.
Or, better still, rather than Apple trying to pick the right size hard drive to balance pricing needs and customer wants (which widely vary), how about just normalize the USB port and let those that want local storage hookup however much storage they desire?
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It would be better if they just put a freakin hardrive back in. Stupid move taking out.
Or allow a thumb drive to be attached for storrage use.
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It would be better if they just put a freakin hardrive back in. Stupid move taking out.
Why would you need a hard drive? If you want to save a movie and watch it multiple times or keep a local iTunes library? Allowing users to attach extra storage would be good, but putting in a hard drive that not many people need just raises the cost and makes it less reliable.
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It would be better if they just put a freakin hardrive back in. Stupid move taking out.
I'm one of those that want NAS or external drive support.
It makes perfect sense separating the media receiver (Apple TV) and the storage. It allows consumers to get new functionality for cheap (under $100) and only buy a new storage device when their current one is out of space.
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It would be better if they just put a freakin hardrive back in. Stupid move taking out.
Yes and no. I'd rather store my stuff on a box with fault tolerant RAID in another room, than some small form factor box that is intended to be silent.
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Meh....

I want to see NAS support so I don't have to have my main Mac on all the time, just to watch a movie. It's not an unusual request, Apple.

Virtually every other network streaming player out there does this.
They'll never support a basic NAS, but it would be nice if they would at least support a hard drive connected to an AirPort Base Station.

Sounds like a processor bump and not much more.
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They'll never support a basic NAS, but it would be nice if they would at least support a hard drive connected to an AirPort Base Station.

Sounds like a processor bump and not much more.
Simple - they just have to open home sharing to third parties. That way NAS's could just implement the protocol in their software.
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Meh....

I want to see NAS support so I don't have to have my main Mac on all the time, just to watch a movie. It's not an unusual request, Apple.

Virtually every other network streaming player out there does this.
I couldn't agree more. To try and circumvent turning my mac on, I recently downloaded File Browser onto my iPhone and iPad. Does the trick and works great, but would still be nice to take one less variable out of the equation.
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Meh....

I want to see NAS support so I don't have to have my main Mac on all the time, just to watch a movie. It's not an unusual request, Apple.

Virtually every other network streaming player out there does this.
I agree... but I doubt Apple would do this, since it would undermine iTunes and iCloud sales. As always, it's all about Apple's bottom line - never about its customers' needs or wishes.
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I agree... but I doubt Apple would do this, since it would undermine iTunes and iCloud sales. As always, it's all about Apple's bottom line - never about its customers' needs or wishes.

Well they are seriously mistaken if they actually believe people will re-purchase movies they already have (saved to their NAS) just so iCloud can stream it to the ATV.
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Meh....

I want to see NAS support so I don't have to have my main Mac on all the time, just to watch a movie. It's not an unusual request, Apple.

Virtually every other network streaming player out there does this.
You shall not NAS!

Don't you know, with the cloud comes control! And control is power over your subjects muahaha!

Seriously though, I agree with you. Being able to plug in your own storage would be nice.
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