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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:12 PM   #1
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FCC Filing Reveals New, Slightly Smaller Apple TV Model




The FCC has published paperwork, discovered by Engadget, that Apple filed late last week on what appears to be a new model of the Apple TV. This follows on yesterday's revelation that iOS 6.1 included support for an as yet unrevealed AppleTV3,2 model.

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While the diagram pictured above doesn't suggest any major changes to the device's appearance, it does list some slightly smaller measurements: 93.78mm square compared to the 98mm of the current model. That's certainly not the biggest of differences, but the measurements in previous Apple FCC filing have been spot on. The model number, A1469, is also one that we haven't seen before, but the documents unfortunately don't offer much else in the way of details (only confirmation of the same WiFi capabilities as the current-gen Apple TV).
In the middle of this month, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo -- who has been accurate in the past -- posted his expectations for Apple's various product launches this year. He expected a new Apple TV model late in the first calendar quarter, which lines up with the filing.

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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:14 PM   #2
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I want the 'big' Apple TV...you know the mythical one we are waiting on.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:15 PM   #3
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and here I thought they were already incredibly small
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:16 PM   #4
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and here I thought they were already incredibly small
I did too.

Yet I am not afflicted with Apples obsession with "small & thin"
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:18 PM   #5
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For those who were wondering, that's a 4.22mm drop in length from both sides, and ~855mm^2 drop in footprint.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:19 PM   #6
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Wow! A moderately smaller Apple TV! Just what I was waiting for!!!


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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:20 PM   #7
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really? a smaller apple tv? meh.

Apple lover to friend: Hey, did you hear??? Apple is coming out with a smaller AppleTV!!!
Friend: Ok, great.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:22 PM   #8
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Isn't Apple switching over to a smaller footprint for the next SoC ? That could account for the slightly smaller size.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:27 PM   #9
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really? a smaller apple tv? meh.

Apple lover to friend: Hey, did you hear??? Apple is coming out with a smaller AppleTV!!!
Friend: Ok, great.
If they release a smaller Apple TV just to support 4K TV or other trivial update, I predict the stock will crater.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:47 PM   #10
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really? a smaller apple tv? meh.

Apple lover to friend: Hey, did you hear??? Apple is coming out with a smaller AppleTV!!!
Friend: Ok, great.
Seems like Apple's recent and future releases all have this rhyme to them, Unfortunately.

Where did the innovation go? Making things smaller, lighter, and thinner are great engineering feats, but in no way considered innovative.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:22 PM   #11
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Will be interesting to see where this leads. They must be shrinking it down for a reason, and I doubt that would be the only change they make. I'm assuming there will be new hardware in it, but with the current hardware coping just fine it must be for some new feature i.e. App Store.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 08:13 PM   #12
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Will be interesting to see where this leads. They must be shrinking it down for a reason, and I doubt that would be the only change they make. I'm assuming there will be new hardware in it, but with the current hardware coping just fine it must be for some new feature i.e. App Store.
I hope you are right. My guess is that they are running short of reject A5 chips so they are going to switch to reject A6s. As such, they can shrink the box a bit further too.

Of course, I'd love for much more. For example:
  • native support for BD audio codecs superior to 1992's Dolby Digital
  • support for added video horsepower to go fully toe-to-toe with what BD can deliver (these first two are about nullifying the most tangible advantages that BD has over TV even if that quality of content doesn't show up in the store)
  • an addition of analog audio out for us zone 2 receiver owners
  • normalized USB port for those of us that would like various amounts of local storage (just add whatever we want and sync like we used to with gen "1")
  • native support for 24fps and 60fps rather than just 30fps. I've had a 60fps consumer camcorder for about 4 years now. I'd love to be able to see "buttery smooth" playback of 60 over 30. And pretty much all movies are 24fps.
  • h.265 support
  • pretty open app store for third parties to evolve it into what we would wish it would become (if only Apple would pour it on with this product)

Personally, I don't long for Siri functionality built into it (other than the gimmicky effect, I don't imagine that being a great benefit in the day-to-day usage). I don't imagine all of the video players giving Apple domination over the video business (like their music cousins did over music) so I don't expect the much fantasized-about, commercial-free, much cheaper than "I" pay now, al-a-carte cable TV killer service. And I don't expect 4K "ultra HD" playback hardware but that would be a whopper surprise.

I'd love NAS media storage options. I'd love certain software features that existed in the 2007 edition to be resurrected: stuff like folders for serialized movies (Star Wars, Star Trek, Harry Potter, etc), our own movies under "movies", our own TV shows under "TV shows", etc. IMO, there's much more hope in software advances/resurrections than hardware.

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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:23 PM   #13
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For those who were wondering, that's a 4.22mm drop in length from both sides, and ~855mm^2 drop in footprint.
no it's not.

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Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:08 PM   #14
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Aidan5806 For those who were wondering, that's a 4.22mm drop in length from both sides, and ~855mm^2 drop in footprint.


no it's not.

I'm thinking

98mm squared is 96.04 cm squared
93.78 mm squared is 87.95 cm squared

the difference is 8.1 square cm or 8.4%




Sweet
So on a surface where you could once only fit 11 ATVs now you can fit 12
Think of the savings in shipping alone!
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:44 PM   #15
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Wow! A moderately smaller Apple TV! Just what I was waiting for!!!


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Ditto.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:20 PM   #16
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yeah we better get apps. theres nothing else to add to it.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:24 PM   #17
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yeah we better get apps. theres nothing else to add to it.
Apps would decimate the console business. Please, please, please.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:05 PM   #18
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Apps would decimate the console business. Please, please, please.
As it stands, perhaps. But not once Valve decimate it in advance.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:33 AM   #19
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yeah we better get apps. theres nothing else to add to it.
euh yes there is: native HDD connection please with USB3 and a thunderbold connection would be nice #notgonnahappen
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 05:28 PM   #20
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I hope it's lighter and thinner, too! I find it really uncomfortable holding my ATV 3 in my hands when I watch TV for more than 3 or 4 hours at a time.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:32 PM   #21
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I want the 'big' Apple TV...you know the mythical one we are waiting on.
I already bought a nice Sharp TV, so a revised Apple TV would be nice.

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So what's the point? Faster wifi? It already goes 1080p.

A faster processor with faster networking will improve the streaming of things like games. Currently, there is a lag when streaming some video and games.

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We will never see the mythical Apple Television until Time-Warner and Comcast agree to terms with Apple.


I am not so sure. Apple could bypass them to bring it to market simply by releasing Apps. People could buy al carte channels like on some competing devices.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:57 PM   #22
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I want the 'big' Apple TV...you know the mythical one we are waiting on.
Why should we WAIT for Apples TV? Other manufacturers have probably better TVs.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 08:07 PM   #23
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I want the 'big' Apple TV...you know the mythical one we are waiting on.
Oh brilliant. So you can buy a nice shiny TV screen that's good for at least 10 years, and throw it to the curb after 2 years because Apple won't give you OS updates for it, won't support it, and it has no standard ports. Kind of like the latest iMac.

You never will see the 'big' Apple TV. At best you'll see ATV become useful and you'll replace it every couple of years.
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A6, not A5X - Apple will want to phase out A5 this year, so everything is minimum A6. First: Apple TV- A6- no X needed. Certainly not A5X- it's a dud chip! Won't appear in any device again.

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Ming-Chi Kuo has freakishly good inside information.
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