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Old Feb 1, 2013, 08:52 AM   #1
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Threads automatically being marked as read

Greetings all,

I'm not new to vBulletin-based forums, but this is one thing I've never been able to figure out about MacRumors: unread threads are marked as being read very aggressively. Based on the timing it seems as if all posts in all sections of the forum are marked as read every time my session expires (although I can't say for certain, since I am set to auto-login). Other forums that I use tend to mark posts that are a month or more old as being read, but they don't clear the posts between logging in and out.

This is pretty disruptive to me, since I navigate the forum primarily through thread subscriptions and the User Control Panel. If threads are automatically marked as read, I don't see them in the control panel.

I've looked over my account settings a few times, but can't find any setting that would adjust this behavior. I feel that I must be missing it. Can anyone guide me to the right place?
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 09:05 AM   #2
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Greetings all,

I'm not new to vBulletin-based forums, but this is one thing I've never been able to figure out about MacRumors: unread threads are marked as being read very aggressively. Based on the timing it seems as if all posts in all sections of the forum are marked as read every time my session expires (although I can't say for certain, since I am set to auto-login). Other forums that I use tend to mark posts that are a month or more old as being read, but they don't clear the posts between logging in and out.

This is pretty disruptive to me, since I navigate the forum primarily through thread subscriptions and the User Control Panel. If threads are automatically marked as read, I don't see them in the control panel.

I've looked over my account settings a few times, but can't find any setting that would adjust this behavior. I feel that I must be missing it. Can anyone guide me to the right place?
To my knowledge, you're not missing any option to control this and I, too, have been frustrated by this before.

Like you, I refer back to User CP to see which threads that I've interacted with have developed further. However, and this morning is a perfect example, when I check User CP at home in the morning but don't have time to review all "newly updated" subscribed threads before leaving for work, they disappear (i.e. are marked as read) by the time I log in at work.

A little bit frustrating, for sure.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 09:07 AM   #3
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This also happens to me, more often than not.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 11:03 AM   #4
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To my knowledge, you're not missing any option to control this and I, too, have been frustrated by this before.
Same here. If I find a long thread I want to take the time to digest and form a long reply, I have to drag a link to the desktop and come back to it later (after reading all new posts)... otherwise by the time I complete my reply to the post everything else is marked read.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 01:20 PM   #5
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Glad to know I am not the only one with this issue. This is the only site that I visit that does this.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 04:31 PM   #6
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Can the staff do something to change this?

I guess I'll also mention that the "read thread" behavior is a bit off in other ways, as well. When I view a thread and then exit it, the posts are still marked as unread (unless my session expired while I was in the thread). Again, that's behavior that I've only encountered here.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 05:30 PM   #7
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Can the staff do something to change this?

I guess I'll also mention that the "read thread" behavior is a bit off in other ways, as well. When I view a thread and then exit it, the posts are still marked as unread (unless my session expired while I was in the thread). Again, that's behavior that I've only encountered here.
I'll make sure the admin's see this thread and we'll see if it's something that can be adjusted.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 05:38 PM   #8
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Can the staff do something to change this?

I guess I'll also mention that the "read thread" behavior is a bit off in other ways, as well. When I view a thread and then exit it, the posts are still marked as unread (unless my session expired while I was in the thread). Again, that's behavior that I've only encountered here.
I've seen both issues for quite a while now. I stay logged in most of the time, only sleeping my Mac when I'm away. When I check in the morning, if I click on any MR forums page before checking User CP, frequently the list of updated threads is empty. I then have to click "View all Subscribed Threads" to see what was updated since I last checked, by checking the times.

When the New Subscribed Threads list is populated, I frequently Command-click all the threads on the list to open them in tabs, then go through them. After I finish, I refresh the User CP page, to find several have not been marked as read, even though I just read them. I find that in some cases, I have to open a thread multiple times before the thread is finally marked as read.

On another note, which I believe I've mentioned before, it would be helpful if a subscribed thread would only be marked as unread if the last post in that thread was made by someone other than me.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 04:28 PM   #9
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Greetings all,

I'm not new to vBulletin-based forums, but this is one thing I've never been able to figure out about MacRumors: unread threads are marked as being read very aggressively. Based on the timing it seems as if all posts in all sections of the forum are marked as read every time my session expires (although I can't say for certain, since I am set to auto-login). Other forums that I use tend to mark posts that are a month or more old as being read, but they don't clear the posts between logging in and out.

This is pretty disruptive to me, since I navigate the forum primarily through thread subscriptions and the User Control Panel. If threads are automatically marked as read, I don't see them in the control panel.

I've looked over my account settings a few times, but can't find any setting that would adjust this behavior. I feel that I must be missing it. Can anyone guide me to the right place?

I can change a setting. I wanted to be around when I did, since it is said to be more server intensive.

I'll test it out.

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I can change a setting. I wanted to be around when I did, since it is said to be more server intensive.

I'll test it out.

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Thanks!

Will the settings change just extend the time for the auto-mark as read... or is it off now entirely?
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I can change a setting. I wanted to be around when I did, since it is said to be more server intensive.

I'll test it out.

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Thanks, arn. I appreciate your taking the time to look into it.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 09:21 PM   #12
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Thanks!

Will the settings change just extend the time for the auto-mark as read... or is it off now entirely?
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Thanks, arn. I appreciate your taking the time to look into it.
I've turned it on.

These are the options

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1) Inactivity/Cookie Based
Once a user has been inactive for a certain amount of time (the value of the cookie timeout option) all threads and forums are considered read. Individual threads are marked as read within a session via cookies. This option is how all versions of vBulletin before 3.5 functioned.

2) Database (no automatic forum marking)
This option uses the database to store thread and forum read times. This allows accurate read markers to be kept indefinitely. However, in order for a forum to be marked read when all threads are read, the user must view the list of threads for that forum. This option is more space and processor intensive than inactivity-based marking.

3) Database (automatic forum marking)
This option is the same as a previous option, but forums are automatically marked as read when the last new thread is read. This is the most usable option for end users, but most processor intensive.
I went from #1 to #3.

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I've turned it on.

These are the options



I went from #1 to #3.

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Now it appears to be worse. I just logged out and back in to clear cookies and now over 100 threads, with last posts over a week ago are now showing as unread. Even when I read them, they remain unread.
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Now it appears to be worse. I just logged out and back in to clear cookies and now dozens of threads, with last posts over a week ago are now showing as unread. Even when I read them, they remain unread.
You'll want to mark all threads read when youre done for the day. After a few days I think you'll come to like it.
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Now it appears to be worse. I just logged out and back in to clear cookies and now over 100 threads, with last posts over a week ago are now showing as unread. Even when I read them, they remain unread.
It looks like you have to get to the last page for them to be marked as unread.

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Now it appears to be worse. I just logged out and back in to clear cookies and now over 100 threads, with last posts over a week ago are now showing as unread. Even when I read them, they remain unread.
Same here, threads from a week ago that I've read, posted I. Etc. are showing up as unread....
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