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Old Feb 14, 2013, 01:25 PM   #1
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Carnival Cruise ship lost power in Gulf, passenger reactions overboard?

It has become a 24 hour news event, the stranded cruise ship.

Anyone think the news coverage has gone to a ludicrous level?
Yes, it is very hard for passengers and on worried shore families, but it is not like New Orleans after Katrina, and the ship is not sinking.

I do consider the decision to go back to US was correct.
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Carnival officials had initially planned to tow the ship to a Mexican port, but after Gulf currents pushed it further north before tugboats could take control, and considering that 900 of the passengers do not have passports, the company decided to take the Triumph to Mobile, instead.
So, is the media is making a mountain out of mole hill?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 01:27 PM   #2
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Not at all. It's probably a lot worse.

From CNN :

Larry Poret confirmed reports of dire conditions aboard the ship, saying urine and feces streamed in the halls and down walls after toilet facilities failed, soaking the mattress of a friend of his who was sleeping in a hallway.
Emergency power failures caused section doors to slam shut, panicking some passengers who had no idea what was happening.

A cruise ship DIW with 4200 people on board ?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 01:29 PM   #3
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Why didn't they use the ocean as a toilet instead of the beds and hallways?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 01:32 PM   #4
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Why didn't they use the ocean as a toilet instead of the beds and hallways?
Did you not read what I posted ? urine and feces was dripping down the bulkheads onto people trying to sleep on mattresses.

People were trying to use the bathrooms that weren't working properly and overflowing into the halls and down walls onto people on decks below.

When was the last time you tried to take a dump over the side of a ship when you were 150 feet from the water ?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 01:33 PM   #5
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Did you not read what I posted ? urine and feces was dripping down the bulkheads onto people trying to sleep on mattresses.

People were trying to use the bathrooms that weren't working properly and overflowing into the halls and down walls onto people on decks below.
I'm asking why they did that, when there was a huge oceanic toilet all around them. Was it about modesty? Could they not have found buckets or something, and emptied them overboard?

How long did it take to figure out the toilets were broken? Why didn't they stop using them?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 01:34 PM   #6
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I'm asking why they did that, when there was a huge oceanic toilet all around them. Was it about modesty? Could they not have found buckets or something, and emptied them overboard?
I think you should read more about the situation.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/travel...html?hpt=hp_c1
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 04:06 PM   #7
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I'm asking why they did that, when there was a huge oceanic toilet all around them. Was it about modesty? Could they not have found buckets or something, and emptied them overboard?

How long did it take to figure out the toilets were broken? Why didn't they stop using them?
What would you have done if you had been on board the ship? It's very easy to be clever after the fact, much harder when you are yourself in the situation.

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Screw compensation. What they should have done is is pay for a large enough and fast enough ship (or ships) to get out there and offload the passengers to.
Sure. Where do you find an empty ship that can pick up 4,000 passengers?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 01:34 PM   #8
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From reports I've read, it seems like voyage of the damned.

I'm amazed there have not been significant outbreaks of some communicable disease on this ship.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 03:00 PM   #9
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Why didn't they use the ocean as a toilet instead of the beds and hallways?
Because if you're pissing off the balcony of a cruise ship, there's a good chance the wind might blow that stream of piss back onto somebody on a balcony below you.
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Because if you're pissing off the balcony of a cruise ship, there's a good chance the wind might blow that stream of piss back onto somebody on a balcony below you.
And not everyone has 8==)~~
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:19 AM   #11
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Good grief, CNN's coverage last night was ridiculous. You would have thought the ship sank.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 03:21 PM   #12
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It has become a 24 hour news event, the stranded cruise ship.

Anyone think the news coverage has gone to a ludicrous level?
Yes, it is very hard for passengers and on worried shore families, but it is not like New Orleans after Katrina, and the ship is not sinking.

I do consider the decision to go back to US was correct.


So, is the media is making a mountain out of mole hill?
Only the passengers on that ship are qualified to say whether the media is "making a mountain out of a mole hill."

I imagine once they're off the ship, we'll be seeing some interesting video.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 03:27 PM   #13
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Only the passengers on that ship are qualified to say whether the media is "making a mountain out of a mole hill."

I imagine once they're off the ship, we'll be seeing some interesting video.
The video is already coming in.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 03:36 PM   #14
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The fact that passengers are getting $500 in cash compensation is a complete joke.

If an airline bumps you from a flight resulting in a 3 hour delay, you could get close to $500 cash. $500 for a ruined vacation, wading around in raw sewage, getting hardly any food and being delayed days to your destination is a complete joke.

Oh, and Carnival is throwing in a free cruise for them. Because I'm sure these people can't wait to get right back on another Carnival cruise.
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Toilets seem to be life safety to me. Maybe more so than emergency lighting.
This statement is laughable.

Life safety includes emergency lights, fire alarm, fire suppression, security, and smoke evacuation/containment. Not plumbing. Not comfort HVAC. Not refrigeration.

Just as an aside, what kind of toilet do you have? I've never seen one that was electric (and I'm not talking about flush valves).
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This statement is laughable.

Life safety includes emergency lights, fire alarm, fire suppression, security, and smoke evacuation/containment. Not plumbing. Not comfort HVAC. Not refrigeration.

Just as an aside, what kind of toilet do you have? I've never seen one that was electric (and I'm not talking about flush valves).
I would imagine gravity won't help water on a ship. Most likely they need pumps. Why else would the toilets not flush?
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The fact that passengers are getting $500 in cash compensation is a complete joke.

If an airline bumps you from a flight resulting in a 3 hour delay, you could get close to $500 cash. $500 for a ruined vacation, wading around in raw sewage, getting hardly any food and being delayed days to your destination is a complete joke.

Oh, and Carnival is throwing in a free cruise for them. Because I'm sure these people can't wait to get right back on another Carnival cruise.
What would be fair compensation then?
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What would be fair compensation then?
If I were on that ship I'd have a lawyer get a class action suit going.
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What would be fair compensation then?
Screw compensation. What they should have done is is pay for a large enough and fast enough ship (or ships) to get out there and offload the passengers to.
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What would be fair compensation then?
I would say at the very least, a full refund for the cruise. I realize that they get a free cruise in the future, but I wouldn't have wanted to shell out thousands for such a terrible experience.
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It's funny that the news site didn't publish any photos of conditions:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/i...rnival-triumph

such as this awesome sandwich
https://twitter.com/mattflener/statu...0824557879297/
from
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...uise-ship.html
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 05:33 PM   #22
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It's funny that the news site didn't publish any photos of conditions:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/i...rnival-triumph

such as this awesome sandwich
https://twitter.com/mattflener/statu...0824557879297/
from
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...uise-ship.html
I think those pictures perfectly define First World Problems.
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I think them getting a full refund,another cruise for free, and $500. I would say they made out like bandits on that deal.

Although I have to agree with some that are saying the backup power should be able to power the water filtration as well other life needed area's. I say this because those that have a week immune system could get really sick fast in those contains. This isn't the first time this happened, this should have been corrected, so if something like this doesn't happen again. :/

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I think those pictures perfectly define First World Problems.
Yes they are!
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