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Old Feb 17, 2013, 09:19 PM   #1
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Any Pros using Flickr?

I've been using SmugMug for 5 years now and in all that time, I realized that I never really focused on selling prints. I've had maybe 5 or 6 orders ever and that's ok. It's never been my priority and it's not how I make my income. My priority now is to get my photos seen.

Smugmug recently doubled their prices from $150yr to $300. It made me reconsider whether I should keep it. Flickr is built into Aperture so it would be easy to share and manage my photos. Also, Flickr appears to be a much more community oriented website with a lot of photographers and sharing going on.

I used to use Flickr years ago but it kind of fell by the wayside back then. It recently got a lot of buzz for its new iOS app but has the Flickr community remained vibrant or have users migrated to Facebook like I suspect?

Any Pros using Flickr?
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:48 AM   #2
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I'm definitely not a pro but want to comment because I recently made the move in the opposite direction to SmugMug from Flickr. The main reasons for the move was the ability to customize to my liking, unlimited uploads and price.

I signed-up for a "Power" account (no provisions to sell) for $60.00/year and I paid $45.00 with an on-line coupon. For me, that seemed quite reasonable and I'm being realistic that there is no market for my shots.

If you're really not selling photos, why have a costly "Business" account? You'd have to sell a lot of photos to justify the $240.00/year cost difference.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 09:11 AM   #3
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I ended up going for a duel system for now. I kept my SmugMug account but lowered the tier to $150 which I'm surprised isn't missing any of the features I used anyway. I also opened a Flickr account and purchased the Pro option.

Both together ended up being less than the now $300 SmugMug subscription. I do the occasional wedding and/or family event so being able to sell prints might come in handy. I'll assess it over the year.

I'm going to redo my website to show a Flickr slideshow, not the one from SmugMug. While Smug allows you to customize the look of the site entirely, I prefer to design my own site and include the elements I want. Also, it's going to be much easier to manage my daily uploads with a built in Flickr sync in Aperture.

A big advantage of Flickr is that Getty Images uses it to search for photos to license. This could be a great avenue for networking and for getting my photos seen by more people.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 02:21 PM   #4
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Can someone explain to me what exactly you get from SmugMug that is worth $150-300 per year? I know nothing about the site, so I'm really in the dark here. What can they possibly provide that is worth that amount of money? Why not just set up a Wordpress site and choose a good hosting provider for it? You can have a site hosted for about $50/year, and you can get nice Wordpress themes for free or for nominal one-time fees. So what does SmugMug have to offer over that route?
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 03:36 PM   #5
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Zenfolio is a nice portfolio site for photography and they have pro options with online sales, too. Most of these operations seem to double their prices when sales are included. A portfolio on Zenfolio maxes out at $60 and the sale option jumps it to $120. If you want to show your stuff their are a lot of options. If you are serious about sales, do what Madam P suggests. You can have a killer sit built for what SmugMug is asking.

If you want to spread your name around, just open an account on 500px and let the Pinterest uses do that for you.

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Old Feb 20, 2013, 09:46 AM   #6
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Can someone explain to me what exactly you get from SmugMug that is worth $150-300 per year? I know nothing about the site, so I'm really in the dark here. What can they possibly provide that is worth that amount of money? Why not just set up a Wordpress site and choose a good hosting provider for it? You can have a site hosted for about $50/year, and you can get nice Wordpress themes for free or for nominal one-time fees. So what does SmugMug have to offer over that route?
The appeal of services like SmugMug and Zenfolio (I won't get into a SmugMug vs. Zenfolio discussion) is that people with minimal or no skill at all can be up and running with a basic custom photo site in one evening. They offer a one stop shopping approach with unlimited upload/download/storage and UI design with templates.

I don't know about Zenfolio, but SmugMug also has an online community forum for photographers and photo website development that is quite helpful.

For a hobbyist like me, $45 to $60/year is reasonable. If this were a business venture, I would carefully research all options.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 11:32 AM   #7
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I don't offer prints for sale on Flickr, but I do have a pro membership. I have been able to sell some of my work to ad companies who have contacted me. Plus, I like the entire Flickr community as a whole. For a hobbyist like myself, it's well work the $45/year.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 12:18 PM   #8
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The appeal of services like SmugMug and Zenfolio (I won't get into a SmugMug vs. Zenfolio discussion) is that people with minimal or no skill at all can be up and running with a basic custom photo site in one evening.
Oh, OK. Thanks for the explanation. I thought maybe they had some feature that was particularly valuable, but I wasn't finding anything unusual in their lists of features. If ease of setup is the benefit, then I can understand why people might be willing to pay triple the amount of more hands-on options.
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