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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:30 PM   #1
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Mac Pro Now Unavailable for Purchase from European Apple Online Stores




As noted by 9to5Mac, the Mac Pro is no longer available for purchase from Apple's European Online Stores.

In late January, Apple informed its European distributors that sales of the Mac Pro would cease as of March 1st due to new regulatory requirements that go into effect on that date. At the time, Apple told resellers that it would accept orders up until February 18, a deadline that appears to apply to general consumers as well.

The Mac Pro is no longer able to be sold in Europe because it is not compliant with Amendment 1 of regulation IEC 60950-1. According to information from Apple, the issue has to do with the Mac Pro's unprotected fan blades. Compliance with the new regulation would require fan guards and increased protection of the ports on the electrical system.

Apple's Mac Pro is now unavailable in European Union countries, EU candidate countries, and the European Free Trade Association countries of Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland.

Though the Mac Pro has been discontinued in Europe, resellers are still able to sell remaining product after the March 1st deadline. Apple plans to continue to support existing Mac Pro machines and will supply replacement parts.

Apple has also announced plans to offer a redesigned Mac Pro in 2013, following a minor update in 2012.

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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:32 PM   #2
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:34 PM   #3
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Good, so now Europeans can not buy them in the same numbers as we in America.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 01:53 AM   #4
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Good, so now Europeans can not buy them in the same numbers as we in America.
You're welcome to it. Nobody wants to buy the current crappy model. Overpriced and very underpowered.

More fool you if you want to buy the current one
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:35 PM   #5
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N.A.B. in April most likely...
Of course that's been the plan for the last 3 years or so.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:36 PM   #6
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is the mac pro sales so small that apple can afford to lose business.. it's a shame really.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:07 PM   #7
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is the mac pro sales so small that apple can afford to lose business.. it's a shame really.
Well, yes. The Mac is only about 10% of Apple's revenues. And about two-third of that is portable devices, and among the desktop machines, iMacs probably sell at a ratio of 10:1 compared to Mac Pros. And that is without account for Mac minis. In the end, the Mac Pro is unlikely to constitute much more than 1% of Apple's revenues.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:10 PM   #8
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Change the freaking fan blades for pete's sake!!

Or is this the end?
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:13 PM   #9
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Well, yes. The Mac is only about 10% of Apple's revenues. And about two-third of that is portable devices, and among the desktop machines, iMacs probably sell at a ratio of 10:1 compared to Mac Pros. And that is without account for Mac minis. In the end, the Mac Pro is unlikely to constitute much more than 1% of Apple's revenues.
Well yes while that is true. Apple still requires this user base to actually create content for the mobiel devices... and also the power to design the next version... They are always going to need a High end machine to design the lower end versions. Do you really think they will ever allow PC's into the Apple campus? well in any numbers!
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 10:51 PM   #10
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Well, yes. The Mac is only about 10% of Apple's revenues. And about two-third of that is portable devices, and among the desktop machines, iMacs probably sell at a ratio of 10:1 compared to Mac Pros. And that is without account for Mac minis. In the end, the Mac Pro is unlikely to constitute much more than 1% of Apple's revenues.
Do we know any actual numbers? I would have guessed that the ratio is even more drastic, like 100:1. How many people actually buy Mac Pros? At least it's one Apple "pro" machine that really lives up to that name. (When it's not years out of date.)
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 12:55 PM   #11
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Well, yes. The Mac is only about 10% of Apple's revenues. And about two-third of that is portable devices, and among the desktop machines, iMacs probably sell at a ratio of 10:1 compared to Mac Pros. And that is without account for Mac minis. In the end, the Mac Pro is unlikely to constitute much more than 1% of Apple's revenues.
maybe in true sales, but what about the 'halo' effect?

ie. a graphic design company buys mac pros for their work.

then buys ipads or iphones etc... to help round out their eco-system

I'm a one man business.

In 10 years, I started with a G4 MDD
then came the apple display + a G5
then a 2006 Mac Pro
2007 iMac
2009 MP
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iPad
2010 MP
2010 MBP
a few other accessories

I still own everything except for that MBP I sold. Still using everything as well (although I'm about to sell the G4 and G5)

I sincerely believe Apple would be idiotic to leave out the Mac Pro from its lineup.

I highly doubt I'm the only one in this boat of buying Mac desktops then the i-devices.

That's not even counting their software I've purchased as well.

iMacs are great, but I'm sorry, I can't plug my other cards into them like I can a Mac Pro.

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Yeah, I didn't ignore 'the halo effect' or brand image at all; if Mac Pros don't generate as much profit per dollar as another direction INCLUDING brand image, spin-off purchases, whatever else you want to add, then it doesn't matter how much you could use an updated Pro or how loyal you were in the late 90s - there is no reason for Apple to allocate resources to the Pro if it's not optimal.

Saying "b-b-b-but the halo effect" doesn't affect my original point one whit. You assume the Pro would be sufficiently profitable because you wish that to be the case. Absent actual numbers and research, these arguments that Apple is under some meaningful incentive or obligation (lol) to update the Pro are just self-serving speculation. Just because you have good reason to buy one doesn't mean Apple has good reason to make the investment to sell you one. Until there's some numbers from Apple internally to see the return they would see (good luck) these arguments remain wish-fulfillment.

wish-fulfillment or according to Tim Cook admitting new ones are coming
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 08:06 AM   #12
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is the mac pro sales so small that apple can afford to lose business.. it's a shame really.
Who in the world would be buying this outdated machine at these prices right now? Yes, I suspect that the sales volume is teeny.

But the new version is coming. And it is going to get shipped from the USA!

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All these points are valid, but I think there's one more side of that matter that is still missing: Apple cares about their profile, they've proved that in the past. It's not a given that they always make a decision strictly based on raw profit. By abandoning pro market for good, they are going to lose much of their traditionally high prestige and I don't think they are willing to. Musicians, designers, photographers etc were a target group that Apple always took under consideration.

All that said, for this moment (future might prove me wrong of course) I'd bet that they are still going to present a new Mac Pro within 2013 and make a come back.
Tim Cook told the President he was going to make Macs in the US. That is going to happen. Really the only easy Mac to make is the modular, spacious and expandable Mac Pro. So you basically have a guarantee from Apple to the President that the Mac Pro is getting refreshed. There is no question on this issue.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 08:11 AM   #13
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That's a shame...

I'd love to know how many of these Apple sell per month anyway.

Please refresh Apple!
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 04:31 AM   #14
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N.A.B. in April most likely...
Of course that's been the plan for the last 3 years or so.
I'd rather prefer them to wait until Ivy Bridge Xeons are released later this year, instead of stuffing the upcoming Mac Pros with 2011 Sandy Bridge ones. It will definitely take another couple of years for the next update so I don't mind waiting a few months to get the latest hardware available.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 04:41 AM   #15
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I'd rather prefer them to wait until Ivy Bridge Xeons are released later this year, instead of stuffing the upcoming Mac Pros with 2011 Sandy Bridge ones. It will definitely take another couple of years for the next update so I don't mind waiting a few months to get the latest hardware available.
Yep, at this point Ivy Bridge is the only reasonable update to get so around august again?
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Is an update FINALLY upon us?!?
No, a cancellation is finally upon us. Next shoe to drop is the US market. I'm sure they'll find a nice excuse!
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:37 PM   #17
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This is almost unbelievable. Doing a silent rev to add a 50 fan blade guard would have made this unnecessary, and avoided scaring the pro users.

Unless "scaring the pro users" was the whole point....
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This is almost unbelievable. Doing a silent rev to add a 50 fan blade guard would have made this unnecessary, and avoided scaring the pro users.

Unless "scaring the pro users" was the whole point....
it is unbelievable, but not for the reason you mention. In the many years the mac pro has been sold in Europe, how many times have customers been hurt by these unguarded fan blades? This is government regulation run completely amok.
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This is almost unbelievable. Doing a silent rev to add a 50 fan blade guard would have made this unnecessary, and avoided scaring the pro users.

Unless "scaring the pro users" was the whole point....
The pro users are scared for good reason, IMO.

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Why would anyone ever need a Mac Pro? An iMac does everything a Mac Pro does, but in a smaller, sleeker, more portable case.
For that matter, why would anybody need anything more than the MiniMac?
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I don't know. I've moved on to an rmbp with dual 27 tb's and kind of happy.
That's where i'm at!
Happy (aside form not having 32 gig of RAM)

Its 50% faster than my 2010 quad-core.
It's nearly 6-core speed.and thats perfect for pro audio.

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