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Old Apr 24, 2008, 12:51 PM   #1
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Apple Releases New iMacs



As predicted, Apple released new iMacs today. The new iMacs include faster processors bringing the low end up to 2.4GHz and with the top end reaching 3.06GHz. The high end 24" 3.06GHz iMac also introduces the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS (512MB) video card.
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"The iMac’s gorgeous aluminum and glass all-in-one design has been an incredible hit with our customers and is just one of the reasons Mac sales are growing three and a half times faster than PC sales," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "With the latest Intel processors, a faster new graphics option and more memory, customers now have even more reasons to love the iMac."
The iMacs also incorporate the latest Intel Core 2 Duo processors with 6MB L2 cache and faster 1066 MHz front-side bus. Specs are listed below:

20", 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT 128MB. $1199
20", 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, 320GB Hard Drive, ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 256MB, $1499
24", 2.8GHz, 2GB RAM, 320GB Hard Drive, ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 256MB, $1799
24", 3.06GHz, 2GB RAM, 500GB Hard Drive, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS 512MB, $2199



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Old Apr 28, 2008, 03:21 PM   #2
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"the only technical difference between it and the upcoming X9100 "Montevina" CPU appears to be the a 11 watt TDP differential"

Which uses lower power, the current or the upcoming?
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 03:30 PM   #3
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Rated negative because of the ad at the bottom of the article.

As if the flashing ads all over this site wasn't enough, we need MORE advertising.
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 04:47 PM   #4
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what about the 20 ichs screen, is this still the case
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/...screens_1.html
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 04:56 PM   #5
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what about the 20 ichs screen, is this still the case
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/...screens_1.html
From the sounds of it Apple are using the same spec screens as before.
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 05:06 PM   #6
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From the sounds of it Apple are using the same spec screens as before.
this is bad
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 05:34 PM   #7
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So if I understand this update correctly, it's just a speed increase, memory, and graphics improvement?

I found a chart comparing the new iMacs with the old versions:
Guide for iMac

I'm thinking about buying my first Mac so I'd appreciate the input.

Thanks
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 05:39 PM   #8
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is it just me
or do i feel uncomfortable spending 1500 on a computer thats not even a quad core?
i know its not capable but now you can by dell q6600 8mb cache and 1000fsb (i think) for 500...

i know theyre completely different.. tower vs all in one but i mean.. were talking nearly a thousand dollar difference -_-
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:06 PM   #9
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is it just me
or do i feel uncomfortable spending 1500 on a computer thats not even a quad core?
i know its not capable but now you can by dell q6600 8mb cache and 1000fsb (i think) for 500...

i know theyre completely different.. tower vs all in one but i mean.. were talking nearly a thousand dollar difference -_-
I agree i just recently got a quad 2.6 with 4gb memory (ENCODED A 1080P VIDEO TO PS3 FORMAT IN ABOUT 1HR AND 30 MINUTES) MAIN REASON I GOT IT FOR
and 500GB of space for 899.99 with a nvidia 8800gt & 24" dell lcd (dell xps 420)
I know people will start saying "but can you run ilife or mac on it" YES I CAN
as matter of fact it runs perfect but my main point is while it finally hit the 3.00ghz mark...my quad will stomp it to a coma and i paid roughly about 1200 less then the fastest imac.

Now wht to do with the extra 1200 i managed to save hmmmmm.....Ill just save it for the next revision macbook pro....anybody interested in a penryn 2.4 320gbhdd MBP?
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:10 PM   #10
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I don't have an iMac, so please excuse the noobishness of this question, but I was wondering about the mini-DVI output... does it simply mirror the display or can it be used to extend the desktop to another monitor?
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:11 PM   #11
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I don't have an iMac, so please excuse the noobishness of this question, but I was wondering about the mini-DVI output... does it simply mirror the display or can it be used to extend the desktop to another monitor?
It can do both.
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:20 PM   #12
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I don't have an iMac, so please excuse the noobishness of this question, but I was wondering about the mini-DVI output... does it simply mirror the display or can it be used to extend the desktop to another monitor?
If you look on Everymac.com, they list what 2nd display support each model has about halfway down each page. For example, the previous top-of-the-line iMac had this listed in its specs:

"2nd Display Support: Dual/Mirroring
2nd Max. Resolution: 1900x1200*

Details: Apple reports that this model supports "digital resolutions up to 1920x1200" and "analog resolutions up to 2048x1536"."
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:11 PM   #13
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I live in oregon, called the closest apple store to my house, and they had a few in stock but had not even taken them out of the shipping boxes yet. Ran up at lunch and grabbed one. Heres a link to the CPU-Z as well, more info on this one than that original utility had. Again, I dont know how to translate all this, but the data appears to match up correctly?

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=353588
Hmm it isn't Cantiga. GM965...

I am not sure what to make of the E8435 CPUID...
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:13 PM   #14
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so, what's the FW chipset, Texas Instruments or Agere? Hope it's TI!!! Otherwise, my RME Fireface400 might not work :S
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:17 PM   #15
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Just in case you missed my previous post...


from molin's link http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=353588

"NB : Intel GM965 rev C0
SB : Intel 82801HBM (ICH8-ME)"

Northbridge = GM965
Southbrige = ICH8-ME

GM965+ICH8 = Santa Rosa


It's a tweaked Santa Rosa that supports 1066 MT/s FSB and DDR2-800 SODIMMs. Its just a renamed x9100 for the CPU. Why OC a mobile part ( a 800mhz penryn) when you dont have to (X9100s are out)?
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 06:25 PM   #16
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so, what's the FW chipset, Texas Instruments or Agere? Hope it's TI!!! Otherwise, my RME Fireface400 might not work :S
anyone can check that plz???
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 07:08 PM   #17
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Who wants to bet 10.5.3 is released tomorrow, hence why this update was done today?
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 08:03 PM   #18
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Who wants to bet 10.5.3 is released tomorrow, hence why this update was done today?
Since the iMac is also using the nVidia 8800 platform, we don't need 10.5.3, do we since 10.5.2 has the drivers?

I wonder if the ATI 3650 and 34x0 driver entries in 10.5.3 are for the rumored MacBook Pro upgrade? The ATI 3650 looks to be equivalent to the nVidia 8600M GT in the current MacBooks (it has a slightly higher 3DMark06 score - 31 points).
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Since the iMac is also using the nVidia 8800 platform, we don't need 10.5.3, do we since 10.5.2 has the drivers?

I wonder if the ATI 3650 and 34x0 driver entries in 10.5.3 are for the rumored MacBook Pro upgrade? The ATI 3650 looks to be equivalent to the nVidia 8600M GT in the current MacBooks (it has a slightly higher 3DMark06 score - 31 points).
Where are these MacBook Pro update rumors? Someone wants to purchase my MacBook so my interest is peaked.
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Where are these MacBook Pro update rumors? Someone wants to purchase my MacBook so my interest is peaked.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467134

That article/discussion does refer to a new form factor, but one imagines that the MacBook Pro would see component updates to bring it to par with the iMac, though I would expect they will be the new generation of mobile Penryns to keep the TDP down and the battery life up either on an actual Montevina systemboard or the "Santa Rosa Specials". As such, they could move to new GPUs, as well. The reviews on the 3650 and 34x0 note that they have very good power consumption figures which would appeal to a mobile application.

We also have the "rumor" thread at http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=471999 with the now discounted pictures.

I suppose they could be for new cards for the Mac Pro. I don't expect the MacBook or Mac Mini to get a dedicated GPU in the next refresh.


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Well, it'd be terrible if the MacBook Pro were to only move sideways given the 8600M GT has already been used in 2 MBP generations.

I'm hoping that Apple would get adventurous and use the 9700M GTS based on the G94 and is the only non-9800M to have 64 shaders. So basically near equivalent to the 8800 GS (aka 8800M GTS) in the new iMac. Here's to hoping for actual GPU improvements.
Perhaps the MacBook Pro will also get two classes of CPU/GPU? The ATI for the lower-clocked 15" units maximizing battery life and a G94-based option on the 17" with the more powerful CPUs?
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http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467134

That article/discussion does refer to a new form factor, but one imagines that the MacBook Pro would see component updates to bring it to par with the iMac, though I would expect they will be the new generation of mobile Penryns to keep the TDP down and the battery life up either on an actual Montevina systemboard or the "Santa Rosa Specials". As such, they could move to new GPUs, as well. The reviews on the 3650 and 34x0 note that they have very good power consumption figures which would appeal to a mobile application.

We also have the "rumor" thread at http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=471999 with the now discounted pictures.

I suppose they could be for new cards for the Mac Pro. I don't expect the MacBook or Mac Mini to get a dedicated GPU in the next refresh.
I was hoping for something new and not articles that had fallen off of Page 1/2.

Thanks though.
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Since the iMac is also using the nVidia 8800 platform, we don't need 10.5.3, do we since 10.5.2 has the drivers?

I wonder if the ATI 3650 and 34x0 driver entries in 10.5.3 are for the rumored MacBook Pro upgrade? The ATI 3650 looks to be equivalent to the nVidia 8600M GT in the current MacBooks (it has a slightly higher 3DMark06 score - 31 points).
Well, it'd be terrible if the MacBook Pro were to only move sideways given the 8600M GT has already been used in 2 MBP generations.

I'm hoping that Apple would get adventurous and use the 9700M GTS based on the G94 and is the only non-9800M to have 64 shaders. So basically near equivalent to the 8800 GS (aka 8800M GTS) in the new iMac. Here's to hoping for actual GPU improvements.
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Don't like the glossy screens

I don't care for the glossy imac screens with this upgrade, so is it possible to buy a Mac Pro and use my older white 20" imac G5 (genuine 8-bit) for a monitor? Thanks.
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I don't care for the glossy imac screens with this upgrade, so is it possible to buy a Mac Pro and use my older white 20" imac G5 (genuine 8-bit) for a monitor? Thanks.
Well, with enough knowledge, time, and tinkering, you could turn your old iMac into anything (like an ant farm).
Why not put the iMac in another room and just get a nice display from Dell for the Mac Pro?
If you buy a Mac Pro, you will want to enjoy the nice hi-res it offers on a display with a lot of real estate. Or even better, on two displays.
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I don't wish to purchase a new monitor. Is it possible to use my older white imac G5 as just a monitor? Do you know how to do this?
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