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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:14 PM   #1
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*Dec. 21st 2012 the END OF THE WORLD!?*

So supposedly the world is supposed to end on Dec. 21 2012 or should I say the Maya Calendar ends then. Is this just another Y2k or is this one for real?
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:18 PM   #2
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I wouldn't put much faith in it. Last time I checked, the Maya are long since dead anyway.

Kind of like saying "My watch stopped so that means time stands still."
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 02:45 AM   #3
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I wouldn't put much faith in it. Last time I checked, the Maya are long since dead anyway. ...

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The Maya peoples never disappeared, neither at the time of the Classic period decline nor with the arrival of the Spanish conquistadores and the subsequent Spanish colonization of the Americas. Today, the Maya and their descendants form sizable populations throughout the Maya area and maintain a distinctive set of traditions and beliefs that are the result of the merger of pre-Columbian and post-Conquest ideologies (and structured by the almost total adoption of Roman Catholicism). Many different Mayan languages continue to be spoken as primary languages today; the Rabinal Achí, a play written in the Achi' language, was declared a Masterpiece of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity by UNESCO in 2005.

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Re: 2012

The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by José Argüelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 21 December 2012, a forecast that mainstream Mayanist scholars consider a misinterpretation.[12]

[12] Susan Milbrath, Curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology , Florida Museum of Natural History, quoted in USA Today, Wednesday, March 28, 2007, p. 11D. "... we have no record or knowledge that they would think the world would come to an end at that point."

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in." (Quoted in USA Today, Wednesday, March 28, 2007, p. 11D.)

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Old Sep 26, 2008, 08:59 AM   #4
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The Maya peoples never disappeared, neither at the time of the Classic period decline nor with the arrival of the Spanish conquistadores and the subsequent Spanish colonization of the Americas. Today, the Maya and their descendants form sizable populations throughout the Maya area and maintain a distinctive set of traditions and beliefs that are the result of the merger of pre-Columbian and post-Conquest ideologies (and structured by the almost total adoption of Roman Catholicism). Many different Mayan languages continue to be spoken as primary languages today; the Rabinal Achí, a play written in the Achi' language, was declared a Masterpiece of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity by UNESCO in 2005.

(From the Wikipedia article: Maya civilization)
I stand corrected - thanks for the link and the history. I guess what I meant was they're no longer a separate state, they don't practice their beliefs the way they used to (are they the ones with the human sacrifices or was that the Aztecs?) and stuff like that. I could have worded it better.
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Interesting but not worried.

On a side note, I wonder if the PowerBook G5 will be released by then?
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I wonder when the next 'apocalypse' will be when 2012 is over? 2013, 2020? Who knows.
Zager and Evans, noted cosmologists, seem to think the gradual process will begin sometime around the year 2525.
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Interesting but not worried.
On a side note, I wonder if the PowerBook G5 will be released by then?
I was so, so, so, so, sooooooo close to saying that. Thank you for saving me!
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I stand corrected - thanks for the link and the history. I guess what I meant was they're no longer a separate state, they don't practice their beliefs the way they used to (are they the ones with the human sacrifices or was that the Aztecs?) and stuff like that. I could have worded it better.
The human sacrifices was all of them for the most part. I believe
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... Today, the Maya and their descendants form sizable populations throughout the Maya area and maintain a distinctive set of traditions and beliefs that are the result of the merger of pre-Columbian and post-Conquest ideologies (and structured by the almost total adoption of Roman Catholicism)...
So presumably aliens will be involved.
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So presumably aliens will be involved.
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I wouldn't put much faith in it. Last time I checked, the Maya are long since dead anyway.

Kind of like saying "My watch stopped so that means time stands still."
Maybe they decided to go ahead of the event. Avoid the rush, as it were. Or just try and forget about it by imploding their civilisation.
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:20 PM   #12
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Mac OS X supports various calendar systems. However, the Mayan calendar is not one of them.
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Therefore, we should be fine.
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:22 PM   #13
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http://www.december212012.com/ look at all this crazyness. They have some facts backing it up. Its kinda creepy to think about. I honestly dont think it will............BUT what if it did!! thats to much to even think about

Also melrose has your watch been ticking for 5000 years??????
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:26 PM   #14
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Also melrose has your watch been ticking for 5000 years??????
Um, does that prove something?

btw, my watch is a rare antique, yes.
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:28 PM   #15
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The maya calendar has been going for 5000+ years and it has predicted many things that have came true. Im just saying it ending is a pretty big deal in many cultures.
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:30 PM   #16
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I'm positive it is just like Y2K...a load of crap.
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:31 PM   #17
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The maya calendar has been going for 5000+ years and it has predicted many things that have came true. Im just saying it ending is a pretty big deal in many cultures.
what did it predict. How could it predict anything relevent in the world of today with technology that would have been unbeleivable at the time.

I really dont understand how anyone can beleive this kind of crap. Enough ppl on the internet say it so it must be true!
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So supposedly the world is supposed to end on Dec. 21 2012 or should I say the Maya Calendar ends then. Is this just another Y2k or is this one for real?
That's my birthday
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 03:07 AM   #19
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Ha, that's nothing. My calendar ends on December 31st. Guess my grocery shop can predict the end of the world, too.
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 03:29 AM   #20
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Ha, that's nothing. My calendar ends on December 31st. Guess my grocery shop can predict the end of the world, too.
c-row. I applaud. That truly was humorous(round of applause)...
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 03:35 AM   #21
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Am I the only one who thinks (no matter how unlikely the whole thing is) if the world was going to end at the end of the 'long count' this is far more likely to be in the year 8000 when the calender reaches 20.0.0.0.0 rather than 2012 at 13.0.0.0.0.

I mean really, why would all the numbers go to 19 then switch and for some random reason the last one would go to 13? Madness.
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question is if the world ends on the 21st - will by Time Machine Backup still work at 12.00 am on the 22nd ?

that is what worries me! got to make sure my iTunes colection lives on
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That's my birthday
Hmmmm....maybe it's tied to you reaching a certain age?

Hopefully your sister will design us all a totally cool shirt that we can all wear with our stunna shades for the big occasion.
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My son turns 12 that day - so he must be the 'chosen one'
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My son turns 12 that day - so he must be the 'chosen one'
He's a year out
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