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Old Apr 28, 2009, 06:57 PM   #1
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The Next Big MMORPG?

I've been so happy playing WoW for the last 5 months, I've not thought much about the future of MMOs. When I was taking a break from WoW, I regularly visited MMORPG.com.

Is there anything out there announced and in development that anyone is excited about?

For years I was interested in Hero's Journey which was purported to have some innovative concepts, but today I went to the HJ forum at MMORPG.com and the two top threads were "HJ is Not VaporWare" and "HJ is Officially Over." Does not look like much has changed there except recent reports of "massive layoffs" at Simutronics. You definitely would not want to be holding your breath for this title. I'm also wondering about Blizzard's next MMO, but started a separate thread for that subject.
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Old Apr 29, 2009, 05:23 AM   #2
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I don't think I will play any MMO before BioWare's Star Wars: The Old Republic! I'm so excited!
It uses the Hero Engine - like Hero's Journey. It's looking great so far!
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I am kinda looking forward to the new starwars MMO myself
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Old Apr 29, 2009, 08:55 AM   #4
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IMHO, it is Bioware's Star Wars: The Old Republic.

Some key reasons (which some may see as bad things)

It's from Bioware. Bioware is a great company and has been wanting to make a MMO for years. This is their first, which could be a problem, but on another note, everyone said the same about Blizzard and they are doing fine.

It's Star Wars. SWG had it's moments but is considered a failure. It's still kicking but people have been clamoring for a good Star Wars MMO. This could be it.

It's not Fantasy. Most MMO's are fantasy based, this will be a nice change.

Friendly requirements. It's meant to run on average PC's, similar to WoW, where you don't need a SLI Cray based rig to run it.

For Mac users, the only bad thing will be that there will be no native version, at least, nothing was mentioned. Bioware does make Mac games, but usually another dev team makes it. We'll see.
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Old Apr 29, 2009, 09:49 AM   #5
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For Mac users, the only bad thing will be that there will be no native version, at least, nothing was mentioned. Bioware does make Mac games, but usually another dev team makes it. We'll see.
When it comes to a MMO, I don't see a viable situation for two companies to be involved, one updating the native PC version and one updating the Mac version, but really I don't know. I'm so grateful that someone at Blizzard, (a company with Mac roots) made the commitment to stay Mac native over the many years of excellent titles. It would be really interesting to know how many Mac subscribers WoW has.

In a Star Wars MMO, I'd be curious to know if there is space combat to go along with planetary exploration and is it going to be innovative or will it feel like you've been there before with the standard kill and collect and escort quests.

Blizzard's latestest WoW expansion shows some outstanding innovation with instanced spaces that a number of non-partied players, but players who have reached the same progression point, can find themselves in. (I'm thinking of the Death Knight starter area for example).
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Old Apr 29, 2009, 04:24 PM   #6
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Yeah unless the developer starts developing its game with Mac in mind from the start, it is very difficult for them to make it happen.

So, they port it or give it to someone else to do it. They don't normally have the time/money/resources/patience/drive to do it.
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When it comes to a MMO, I don't see a viable situation for two companies to be involved, one updating the native PC version and one updating the Mac version, but really I don't know. I'm so grateful that someone at Blizzard, (a company with Mac roots) made the commitment to stay Mac native over the many years of excellent titles. It would be really interesting to know how many Mac subscribers WoW has.

In a Star Wars MMO, I'd be curious to know if there is space combat to go along with planetary exploration and is it going to be innovative or will it feel like you've been there before with the standard kill and collect and escort quests.

Blizzard's latestest WoW expansion shows some outstanding innovation with instanced spaces that a number of non-partied players, but players who have reached the same progression point, can find themselves in. (I'm thinking of the Death Knight starter area for example).
Seriously, I would have given Warhammer a shot, but I didn't even have the option of giving them my money. Their loss.
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Old May 4, 2009, 10:30 PM   #8
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IMHO, it is Bioware's Star Wars: The Old Republic.
That's sound decent. But lets hope it's not like a LoTRO MMO. That was a pretty lame MMO. They tried too much "story-telling". Just nice graphics and you had to be a real fan to stand that game after a while, imho.

The problem is that everyone is gonna want to be a light-sider. They have to address that otherwise it will blow bubbles.
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That's sound decent. But lets hope it's not like a LoTRO MMO. That was a pretty lame MMO. They tried too much "story-telling". Just nice graphics and you had to be a real fan to stand that game after a while, imho.

The problem is that everyone is gonna want to be a light-sider. They have to address that otherwise it will blow bubbles.
Keep in mind I'm a corrupted WoW player, but I really saw nothing really different/superior about LOTRO as compared to WoW and at the starter levels the quests were pretty much the same as in WoW. Might as well play the best MMO. The LOTRO story line seems less significant or special when a server has thousands doing the same quests. And I thought at least one of the classes (Minstrel) where you attack a mob by singing them to death was a bit silly. Maybe at the higher levels they would be impressive but not at the beginning.
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Project Offset looks really nice.
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Project Offset looks really nice.
Really nice concept art but based on the site content, it looks like this project is in the very early stages?
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Blizzard's next MMO as long as it is scifi

There is Champions Online that is currently in beta. It is a super hero MMO that looks better visually than CoH. However, I am also thinking the new SW mmo has good potential. I think the world is ready for a new genre. Fantasy is played out.

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Hasn't anyone tried EVE Online?
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Hasn't anyone tried EVE Online?
Quite a few have if you look at the older posts. Been telling Huntn to try it but he's a weenie.
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Quite a few have if you look at the older posts. Been telling Huntn to try it but he's a weenie.
Extra long...

I've got this mental block about riding around in a space ship collecting stuff, battling others, and getting my ship wiped out and starting from scratch, as what I want to do in a MMO. I realize "starting from scratch" is an exaggeration. Just said it to be annoying! I did that in Terminus and on Steam recently (on another game of which the name eludes me) solo and while it was ok, it did not hold my attention long term.

BTW, is the Mac Eve client good, as good in performance as the pc client?
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I've got this mental block about riding around in a space ship collecting stuff, battling others, and getting my ship wiped out and starting from scratch, as what I want to do in a MMO. I realize "starting from scratch" is an exaggeration. Just said it to be annoying! I did that in Terminus and on Steam recently (on another game of which the name eludes me) solo and while it was ok, it did not hold my attention long term.

BTW, is the Mac Eve client good, as good in performance as the pc client?
It's not THAT bad. You just have to be more thoughful about what you spend and can afford to lose. You can loose very little and still have fun. It's not like you don't loose anythnig in WoW. Not talking about repairing armor either. I don't know about you but I found it pretty annoying to make some long axe runs from the graveyard and repeating spawns. Spending time is a loss too. It just has a lot more deph than most other MMO's and there's less "guidance" by the game. After a while everything gets boring no matter how good it is. This game is just a little different from the standard fantasy RPG MMO.

Nothing is better than the PC. Especially since you can add all these upgrades to it and DX10 (which EVE has). But if that doesn't matter that much to you, EVE doesn't allow interfacing like WoW. So it's not like you're going to miss out on that many add-ons. 3rd party desktop based utilities are another story of course, but that's always a Mac problem since less ppl use it.
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Hasn't anyone tried EVE Online?
Guh, yea. I didn't find it enjoyable at all, was like an ungracious hark back to early 90's space exploration gaming.
I think "the next big MMO" is going to have to be accessible and enjoyable to most. I could see a Torchlight MMO being quite successful given how visually similar it is to WoW and the gameplay (at least of the original) is straightforward, deep and enjoyable.
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I ditched Aion and am playing DDO. I am liking DDO because all my rl friends play together. When we played Aion everybody just solo grinded. Aion PVP was kinda crappy as well, it was only fun playing assassins and ganking in Asmo-land (or Elyos-land). Sold my 44 Templar for a good amount of $$$ though.

Anyway I like DDO precisely because it is like Diablo. Dungeon running is a lot of fun when the party members are your rl friends that you can talk to.
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I think a lot of people will still be playing wow even 10 years from now. Its a blizzard game after all.
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My first MMO was Anarchy Online which I loved. Played a ton of them since then and most of them sucked. Last MMO I tried was DC Online and I got bored in 2 weeks. Been playing WOW on and off since release and I haven't run into anything better.

The only games I'm curious about are Star Wars: The Old Republic and the Secret World. I played SWG and even though it was buggy as hell, I enjoyed it until Sony ruined the game. Wondering how this new one will hold up. Secret World is from Funcom, and if they can put out something on the level of Anarchy Online, it'll be worth it.
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My main gripe with WoW is the world is completely static, nothing you do changes the game world at all, its all a grind to get better equipment, there is no satisfaction apart from having a new shiny sword or what not. I love the atmosphere, detail and easter-eggs but every time I play it I cant help but feel, meh, whats the point, im just gonna kill things and bring back X amount of skins or carcasses to an NPC to get some XP and maybe something shiny to put on. . . MEH. . .
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