Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Apple Systems and Services > OS X

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old May 19, 2010, 10:10 PM   #1
gunraidan
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Is Snow Leopard more stable than Windows 7?

I don't mean to start an inevitable crap fest, but I've always wondered this. I've noticed that my Mac is very stable but I've moved straight from Windows XP to Leopard and never really moved onto Windows 7.

I never really thought that there was a big difference until I saw this press release.

"Portal (with the same code base across platforms, just different compilers) is one fifth as likely to crash on a Mac than on Windows. "

Are Macs really that much more, on average, more stable than PC's with Windows?

Are there any crash test or stability tests for comparison?

Last edited by gunraidan; May 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM.
gunraidan is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2010, 10:18 PM   #2
flopticalcube
macrumors G4
 
flopticalcube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In the velcro closure of America's Hat
Since people use their computers for a wide variety of different things, you are going to get a wide variety of answers.

I find Snow Leopard to crash or hang less often on Apple hardware than Windows 7. Having said that, Windows 7 is also very stable for me.
__________________
Read the Rules / Search the Forums / Use a Descriptive Title
Mac Won't Boot?
flopticalcube is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2010, 10:37 PM   #3
TSE
macrumors 68030
 
TSE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
I have Windows 7 on a budget consumer laptop and haven't had any problems with it so far. Haven't really used Snow Leopard extensively, however so I can't comment on it.
__________________
MacBook Pro, 2.2ghz Quad-Core i7 Processor, 15" 1680x1050 Anti-Glare LCD, 16gbs of RAM, 500gb Samsung 840 evo SSD, AMD Radeon 6750M HD, Mac OS X + Windows 7 Ultimate
TSE is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2010, 11:27 PM   #4
VPrime
macrumors 68000
 
VPrime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: London Ontario
That article is actually pretty wrong.

The code for the game is the same. But the engine is running on a whole different platform.
The engine (which runs the game) has been written for OpenGL. It is not just a different compiler.

Also it is an early version. Valve just released their port a few days ago, so there are bound to be a few issues which they have not found. Give it some time and it will be as stable as the PC version. Portal for windows has been out since 2007, plenty of time to get it stable.

ALSO, Apple is quite behind with video card drivers. There really has never been a major need for decent video card drivers as gaming was not a big thing on a mac. Again give this a bit more time and you will see a big update here as well. THis should help with performance and stability.


Any ways to answer your main question... Yes and No. It is kind of hard to answer.
Windows 7 is actually REALLY GOOD. But it still has lots of the old windows "issues". The Registry concept has out grown it self IMO. Then there is the case of malware/viruses etc.
OSX is a UNIX operating system. Various UNIX distributions are generally used in server environments and HAVE to be stable and running all the time.
This should sort of help you understand why OSX is more stable- with out going into detail.

Again, it varies on a case by case situation.
VPrime is online now   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2010, 11:30 PM   #5
BeSweeet
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
 
Send a message via Skype™ to BeSweeet
I've honestly had 0 problems with Windows 7 (and Windows Vista). Could be luck, but I don't really know... They're both working perfectly for me (via Bootcamp on my MacBook Pro). Snow Leopard seems to take a crap on me once in a while, but nothing mindblowing.
__________________
- Space Gray iPhone 6 Plus [T-Mobile/unlocked, 16GB, iOS 8.0.0]
Twitter | Homepage | My iPhone Case Site (cases between $1.49 & $2.99!)
BeSweeet is online now   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 20, 2010, 12:06 AM   #6
Terminal.app
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
I'd say stability differences between SL and Windows 7 are much less pronounced than the ones between Leopard and XP/Vista. Maybe my SL is a special case, but I encountered few if any of the reported problems the OS was having (and apparently still continues to have with some users) right after its release. On average, I'd say my Windows 7 PC freezes at least 5 or 6 times per month (no BSODs yet) whereas the last time Snow Leopard froze like this was back on 10.6.0 last year.

All in all Windows 7 is several orders of magnitude more stable and crash-resistant than XP, but it still can't quite compare to Snow Leopard.
Terminal.app is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 20, 2010, 08:46 AM   #7
DontMacTheGyver
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeSweeet View Post
I've honestly had 0 problems with Windows 7 (and Windows Vista). Could be luck, but I don't really know... They're both working perfectly for me (via Bootcamp on my MacBook Pro). Snow Leopard seems to take a crap on me once in a while, but nothing mindblowing.
This IS luck!!
DontMacTheGyver is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 20, 2010, 09:32 AM   #8
bartzilla
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by gunraidan View Post
I don't mean to start an inevitable crap fest, but I've always wondered this. I've noticed that my Mac is very stable but I've moved straight from Windows XP to Leopard and never really moved onto Windows 7.

I never really thought that there was a big difference until I saw this press release.

"Portal (with the same code base across platforms, just different compilers) is one fifth as likely to crash on a Mac than on Windows. "

Are Macs really that much more, on average, more stable than PC's with Windows?
A couple of things spring to mind:
You mention windows 7 in your title - Steam's data will refer to other versions of windows too.

Secondly, they appear to be referring to PORTAL crashing. App crash != OS crash. This snippet of info tells you nothing about which operating system is more or less stable.

I think following any of those things further than that is going to end up in massive trollbait.

As someone who uses both in anger at home and admins both at work, I have to say that Windows 7 and SL both appear to be pretty damn stable. They're both "the best so far" of their respective families in terms of stability from what I can see. I've not seen a Windows BSOD or a Mac kernel panic in a very long time that wasn't directly and irrefutably caused by a hardware fault.

I think the Mac might turn out to be a very stable gaming platform, more so than the average PC. Not because of issues with Windows stability vs. OSX stability, but because of things like driver & hardware stability - there are a lot less combinations of hardware to target on the Mac and Apple are in control of pretty much all these combinations.

Last edited by bartzilla; May 20, 2010 at 09:37 AM.
bartzilla is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old May 20, 2010, 11:02 AM   #9
brendu
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
I use my mac for just about everything I do... email, web browsing, movies, hulu, music, photos, geektooling, office and I use my windows 7 HTPC for well HTPC stuff.. mostly Hulu desktop but some web browsing and iTunes as well...

I use both pretty much every day and have been for over a year... My mac has frequent beach-balling and apps crashing (stupid flash videos crashing multiple times daily... which seems to be a recent development, it never used to happen... hmm trying to make flash undesirable apple?) whereas my windows 7 machine has not crashed once, I have not had one app crash in over a year of use, including when I was using the release candidate... it seems real solid... and it is almost always running even when im not watching it. Granted, I dont use it for a lot of different programs, and I rarely do more than one or two things at once so it really shouldn't crash.
brendu is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2010, 10:35 PM   #10
eddified
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Granted, I know less about Mac os X than I do windows, but I've found I need to reboot Snow Leopard more often than I need to reboot win 7. In windows 7 I can pretty much always get an app running again, but in SL not the case. I get "Can't open this application" (error number -600) and there's nothing that I know how to do to get it to run again without rebooting the machine. I've been getting the same kind of error with Finder (with a -10810 error code) etc. In either case all I can do is reboot.

That said, with windows 7 I've seen strange issues that don't go away even with a reboot, but they are more minor, they're nothing that keeps me from doing the things I normally do.

I suppose they have different kinds of stability...
eddified is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2010, 10:44 PM   #11
zeemeerman2
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
My experience tells me that Firefox crashes more in Windows 7 than in Mac OS X. A lot more.

Windows Explorer and Finder are equal in the crash-rating.

It all depends on the applications you want to use.
zeemeerman2 is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > Apple Systems and Services > OS X

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
snow leopard, windows 7 & parallels 8 in mavericks. Possible? aron1014 Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac 0 Nov 2, 2013 03:37 PM
Dual-booting OS X & Windows XP Limited to 10.6 Snow Leopard? dalinian Mac OS X 10.7 Lion 3 Nov 5, 2012 02:51 PM
BOOTCAMP Windows XP on Snow Leopard TableSyrup Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac 0 Oct 12, 2012 08:26 AM
Tripple Boot: Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion and Windows 7 - How to? MacPro99 OS X 2 Aug 14, 2012 07:31 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:31 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC