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karkid

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when you turn down the brightness all the way in a room with the light on is the apple logo suppose to be visible through the screen?
 

admanimal

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You shouldn't be able to see it through the screen under any circumstances.

This is not necessarily true. Both the Apple logo and the screen get their light from the same backlight, so obviously if the backlight is off it is possible for a small amount of light to bleed through the logo onto the screen. I can see a very faint and fuzzy Apple logo if I turn off the backlight on my 11" and hold the back up to a bright light.
 

M87

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Jul 18, 2009
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You mean with the brightness all the way down and a source of light behind the screen you can see light in the area of the apple logo? Yep, just tested it. Makes sense. Light can obviously pass through the Apple logo, so why shouldn't it be able to go the other way and light up the screen?
 

alust2013

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Feb 6, 2010
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This is not necessarily true. Both the Apple logo and the screen get their light from the same backlight, so obviously if the backlight is off it is possible for a small amount of light to bleed through the logo onto the screen. I can see a very faint and fuzzy Apple logo if I turn off the backlight on my 11" and hold the back up to a bright light.

Ah ok, I was thinking backlight still on, but at its lowest setting. That does make sense.
 

karkid

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not acceptable to me.. i'm going to take my MBA back to the apple store i was already doubting the purchase. I mean at 2000 i don't expect to see the logo through the screen even if the screen is off you don't see if on a 2000 dollar macbook pro ....
 

admanimal

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Apr 22, 2005
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not acceptable to me.. i'm going to take my MBA back to the apple store i was already doubting the purchase. I mean at 2000 i don't expect to see the logo through the screen even if the screen is off you don't see if on a 2000 dollar macbook pro ....

I can absolutely see the exact same thing on my 15" Macbook Pro as I can on my 11" Air. Exactly how bright of a light is behind your computer and how dark is the room when this is happening? I can only see it if I literally hold my computer up to a light if it's not pitch black in the room. When you say your brightness is all the way down, you mean the screen is completely dark, right?
 

ReallyBigFeet

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Apr 15, 2010
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I can absolutely see the exact same thing on my 15" Macbook Pro as I can on my 11" Air. Exactly how bright of a light is behind your computer and how dark is the room when this is happening? I can only see it if I literally hold my computer up to a light if it's not pitch black in the room. When you say your brightness is all the way down, you mean the screen is completely dark, right?

I've got both my MBP and my MBA with me today. If I turn towards the window, shades open, and turn down the backlighting on both...I can clearly see the Apple logo underneath the display. Clearly, bright sunlight will outshine dimmed backlighting. The thin screen of the MBA simply amplifies things.
 

jclardy

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I noticed this on my 2010 MBP. But I had my computer in front of a window as the sun was rising and my brightness turned all the way down. I saw something in the middle of the screen and thought something had hit it but then I turned the screen backlight off and saw that it was the Apple logo.

Then I increased the brightness past two notches and didn't notice it again...
 

andiwm2003

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Mar 29, 2004
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You shouldn't be able to see it through the screen under any circumstances.

you definitely see the apple logo when sun is shining onto the back of the screen. a strong spot light will do as well. however when the screen is on it is not visible unless you watch night scenes in a movie with the sun burning onto the back of the screen


not acceptable to me.. i'm going to take my MBA back to the apple store i was already doubting the purchase. I mean at 2000 i don't expect to see the logo through the screen even if the screen is off you don't see if on a 2000 dollar macbook pro ....

well my $2799 MBP does that too and I'm totally fine with it since in normal use there is no way for me to notice it.

BTW: turn the backlight to full power and open a black picture full screen. the turn off the lights in the room and check out the light bleeding. looks horrible and also has no consequences for normal use.
 

kdoug

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Jun 2, 2010
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not acceptable to me.. i'm going to take my MBA back to the apple store i was already doubting the purchase. I mean at 2000 i don't expect to see the logo through the screen even if the screen is off you don't see if on a 2000 dollar macbook pro ....
Sounds like buyers remorse. I'm curious, why we're you doubting the purchase before this problem came up?
 

karkid

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Jul 25, 2010
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well i sold the MBP 15.4 i5 to get this because i have a killer desktop... i miss my backlight, it doesn't sound like a big deal but to me it is.

And now i have the opportunity to pick up a maxed out 15.4 with 256gb ssd 2.8ghz i7 8gb ram antiglare screen for 1900 off a local classified add so i'm considering it.

i'm sitting in a lecture hall and this is where i noticed the apple logo on the screen with the brightness ALL the way down
 

ender21

macrumors 6502
Jul 15, 2010
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Southern Cal
I noticed it with bright light behind it (as it should be; worst-case scenario), but then again with ambient light in a relatively low-lit room as well.

I do believe this *shouldn't* be an "acceptable" part of the build of an expensive machine. If they want a lit logo, come up with another solution.

Having said that, I won't be returning mine. I'll just be covering up the logo. :D
 

Bluemeanie1976

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Nov 1, 2009
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This has been the case since my white macbook. Not really that much of an issue, is it, really? You must have your screen brightness on very low, and have quite a strong light behind the macbook.
 

hsl

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Dec 15, 2006
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If there's a lamp somewhere behind your screen you could see it through the screen. If you can't change the lightning in your "situation" get a cheap sticker on etsy ;-)
 

QuarterSwede

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Oct 1, 2005
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This is nothing new. This happens on ALL Apple notebooks (yes, even PowerBooks) with a backlit Apple logo. Honestly I've only had this issue every once in a blue moon when the sun is beating down on my notebook. In that case it's usually blinding me too so I just move. Not an issue as far as I'm concerned.
 

mkelly

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Nov 29, 2007
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not acceptable to me.. i'm going to take my MBA back to the apple store i was already doubting the purchase. I mean at 2000 i don't expect to see the logo through the screen even if the screen is off you don't see if on a 2000 dollar macbook pro ....

I've seen that exact thing on my past 2 15" MacBook Pros. It's physics at work.
 

666sheep

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Dec 7, 2009
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Poland
This is nothing new. This happens on ALL Apple notebooks (yes, even PowerBooks) with a backlit Apple logo. Honestly I've only had this issue every once in a blue moon when the sun is beating down on my notebook. In that case it's usually blinding me too so I just move. Not an issue as far as I'm concerned.

Exactly. This is secret "added value" ;) :p
 

HLdan

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Aug 22, 2007
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not acceptable to me.. i'm going to take my MBA back to the apple store i was already doubting the purchase. I mean at 2000 i don't expect to see the logo through the screen even if the screen is off you don't see if on a 2000 dollar macbook pro ....

The highest spec MBA is the 13" 2.1GHz with 256SSD and 4GB ram and it prices at $1799. How are you arriving at $2000? Understandable if you can't deal with the logo showing through the screen, but I have a 15" Core i5 MBP and I see the logo as well. The only way to escape this is to not buy anymore Apple Macbooks.
 

wirelessmacuser

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Dec 20, 2009
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I just checked my new 13" MBA, my 15" mid 2010 15" MBP and my 13" MBP, they all do that.

Personally I think it's quite interesting and certainly _not_ a problem.

Oh... and I'm typing this on my new MBA and it hasn't blown up yet... :)
 

ender21

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Jul 15, 2010
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Southern Cal
The highest spec MBA is the 13" 2.1GHz with 256SSD and 4GB ram and it prices at $1799. How are you arriving at $2000? Understandable if you can't deal with the logo showing through the screen, but I have a 15" Core i5 MBP and I see the logo as well. The only way to escape this is to not buy anymore Apple Macbooks.

Clearly a semantical argument irrelevant to the point he's trying to make, but my MBA was $1799 + 8.75% sales tax, + $14 for expedited shipping. That's $1970. That's close enough to $2k, and in any event, his number didn't need to be exactly right for his point to be taken.
 
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