Has to do with organic geometry. Lobe shapes and spline paths take the least amount of energy to adjust to another lobe or spline. Basic geometries take more energy and thus are not see often in nature. We continue this further, I'm going to start billing my consulting rates.
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Apple Taking Heat for Switching to Custom Screws on iPhone 4 and Portables
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Has to do with organic geometry. Lobe shapes and spline paths take the least amount of energy to adjust to another lobe or spline. Basic geometries take more energy and thus are not see often in nature. We continue this further, I'm going to start billing my consulting rates.
Rodimus Prime
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Out of curiosity, what is a 5 point phillips head screwdriver? 😛
You know exactly what I mean. It was how to descript what each point of look like.
It is a 5 point star no lobs type of screw driver. It is not standard because it is made only to take out those apple only screws.
But your entire argument falls apart when low and behold inside the devices they are using standard screws. Hurts the entire argument and with machines the aligning times are not as much of an issue.
Torx was designed for used by humans using phematic tools with built in slip clutches. The problem for the robot is not "slipage" but alignment. Humans do this mostly by feel Robots are quite bad at this "feel" thing. I think the new screw head is designed so an undersized driver will work. Torz and Philups both need a tight fit to the driver. A lower degree of precision is required for the loose fit When you make a million of something saving a millisecond means 1000 seconds, close to 20 minutes are saved
Give them credit for even using screws. I'm certain a snap together fit would have been cheap to make
Least amount of energy to adjust? To what tighten the screw? This screw is 1/16" in diameter if that, it doesn't take any force to tighten it and if you are using a correct size bit they don't slip.
Bet you're one of those engineers that can draw everything but have no idea how it practically works...Ex - USB ports on the unibodies.
I'm enjoying this thread more than any other.
And why?
Because I can understand and appreciate nearly everyone's opinion on this issue, no matter how trivial.
I've never laughed harder at the hilarity of Apples antics.
After years as an Apple customer and historian so to speak, I see several other reasons for these screws.
1) They provide just one more way to reinforce Apples burning desire to attract attention, grabbing headlines each day.
2) They stir up controversy, the "in your face" screw you, type that Apple thrives on, and fellow arrogant people admire.
3) The "we're Apple and we'll do whatever we want and you can't stop us" childish rants they love.
And on and on, "you stupid ass, you're holding it wrong" remarks that are the crown jewel example of Apple Arrogance. An amazing number of customers, take great delight in being talked down to.
You've certainly got to give them credit for the fact that get away with anything they want, like spoiled two year old toddlers.
It gets even funnier as one witnesses all the submissives that become Apple apologists.
One minute their slapping customers with Apple Tax and Pentalobe screws, the next, like a person with schizophrenia, they deceptively fawn over their customers. "We love you so much we've built Apple Stores just for you.
What a plethora of contrary and disingenuous behaviors.
Apple, cast their magic spell and watch as people pour billions of dollars into their coffers.
All because the toys are shiny with a "cool" logo.
Entertaining indeed 🙂
And why?
Because I can understand and appreciate nearly everyone's opinion on this issue, no matter how trivial.
I've never laughed harder at the hilarity of Apples antics.
After years as an Apple customer and historian so to speak, I see several other reasons for these screws.
1) They provide just one more way to reinforce Apples burning desire to attract attention, grabbing headlines each day.
2) They stir up controversy, the "in your face" screw you, type that Apple thrives on, and fellow arrogant people admire.
3) The "we're Apple and we'll do whatever we want and you can't stop us" childish rants they love.
And on and on, "you stupid ass, you're holding it wrong" remarks that are the crown jewel example of Apple Arrogance. An amazing number of customers, take great delight in being talked down to.
You've certainly got to give them credit for the fact that get away with anything they want, like spoiled two year old toddlers.
It gets even funnier as one witnesses all the submissives that become Apple apologists.
One minute their slapping customers with Apple Tax and Pentalobe screws, the next, like a person with schizophrenia, they deceptively fawn over their customers. "We love you so much we've built Apple Stores just for you.
What a plethora of contrary and disingenuous behaviors.
Apple, cast their magic spell and watch as people pour billions of dollars into their coffers.
All because the toys are shiny with a "cool" logo.
Entertaining indeed 🙂
No, just so far ahead of you and basic kinematics, you think I'm behind since the results look too simple.
What I can't stand are yutzs that take what their half baked faculty does as start-of-the-art and never takes it a step further.
Keep with your hobbies and low volume work, let the real work for the big boys.
You don't know the whole assembly process. Any disclosure further could be an admittance of trade secret and confidentiality. I don't need to argue, see it work and saw the difference myself. Not everyone on here has experience in very high volume electronics manufacturing. Worst, I keep on thinking how many are just doing this from the break room of Best Buy.
Never knew about this until I recently purchased another iPhone 4 and had a hard time getting the scres off to change my back glass to another color.
Didnt watch the video yet, if I OWN the iPhone, I should be allowed to do anything I want to it.
Patching up jailbreaks and now this
Didnt watch the video yet, if I OWN the iPhone, I should be allowed to do anything I want to it.
Patching up jailbreaks and now this
vitzr
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Not one to take things so seriously, I believe that perhaps Apple like so many other manufacturers that build products subject to customers tinkering, they may have a long list of reasons they went to special screws. Not the least of which is to continue to seal their devices just enough to discourage those that shouldn't be taking them apart from doing so.
There's no shouldn't in this debate. Once you buy something, you own it and are free to do what you want with it, especially when it comes to hardware.
Apple are just a company, not some state to rival the Vatican. Ok, they make some cool stuff but some folks here are talking as if they should be revered.
This is the same company that overcharges for RAM, doesn't want you to replace hard drives in your new shiny iMac and wants you to pay over the odds for a phone and then an overpriced data plan to go with it.
We are the customer in this relationship....Apple is here to make us happy, not the other way round.
vitzr
macrumors 68030
I take Apple less seriously.
The only thing that matters to me is if any companies product fits my criterion within reason. Everything's a compromise and that's what keeps things interesting.
I use whatever platform suits me at the time. I'm totally flexible and open to trying any brand. There is no perfect computer, phone, or platform.
Competitive pressure is the great equalizer.