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Student Discount? Need information.

GarfieldH

GarfieldH

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Feb 10, 2011
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My partner is at uni, she is elgible for student discount (of course)

She wants to use the discount for me, so I'm wondering can she purchase a "present" for me and get the product in my name with Apple care?

I'm located in the United Kingdom..

I've been looking for the answer all over, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks in advance!

GarfieldH
 
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Technically she should not buy it knowing that it will not be used for educational purposes. However, there us nothing stopping her buying it for education and then realising a little later that she doesn't need it anymore and selling it on.

Edit- note that students can buy one mac laptop and one iMac and one Mac Mini per year, but not two laptops for example.

She gets a 3 year warranty as standard as a UK student if she buys online/phone, but if she can forsee the need to sell it on later she may want to buy Applecare (which, if bought online/phone is only £40ish for students I think). Of course, as she is using it for her she should register it in her name, but if she decides to sell it later the new owner can email Apple and have the name changed.
 
iStudentUK said:
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Technically she should not buy it knowing that it will not be used for educational purposes. However, there us nothing stopping her buying it for education and then realising a little later that she doesn't need it anymore and selling it on.

Edit- note that students can buy one mac laptop and one iMac and one Mac Mini per year, but not two laptops for example.

She gets a 3 year warranty as standard as a UK student if she buys online/phone, but if she can forsee the need to sell it on later she may want to buy Applecare (which, if bought online/phone is only £40ish for students I think). Of course, as she is using it for her she should register it in her name, but if she decides to sell it later the new owner can email Apple and have the name changed.
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Hmmm.. I read the ToS for educational buying, and it says nothing about her having to buy it for education purposes. Sorry to offend but your answer really does not answer my question in a sense... Apple store try to promote buying it as a gift also, and it seems she can use her discount for a "gift".. so it's all very confusing. I've also read about people going with a friend who is in education and using the discount they have then the person paying for it getting it in their name.. but I'd like some official answer, I don't want to look silly walking in to the Apple Store and asking then being refused. I do have around £2500 to buy a new laptop, hopefully the 2011 model.

Any further answers would be helpful.

Thanks,

GarfieldH
 
Buy online or on phone-

Apple signed an agreement with the UACG to arrange a special Higher Education Contract, for which almost all UK university students are eligible. This deal gives students much better discounts and a free 3-year hardware warranty with the option to upgrade to Applecare for ~£40. This is only available online or over the phone.

Note T&Cs section 2.1-

Agreement you must be either a registered student and possess a valid student I.D. or you must be engaged or employed by an eligible education institution and be entitled to purchase in accordance with the terms and conditions of the HE National Agreement and must require the Produce for your own use or for classes or for research.
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(emphasis added, don't play find the T&Cs with a law student :p :D)

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/uk/Images/salespolicies_individualHE.html

So if your partner buys online and gets the better discount she should not purchase it as a gift as this is breach of s2.1 and Apple could, in theory, sue her. As I said earlier, it is fine for her to buy it for herself and later realise that she no longer wants/needs it and sell it on, maybe even to you?! But she should be sure as s2.8 applies-

The following quantity limits per academic school year apply to purchases on the Apple Online Store for Education:

- Desktop: One (1) may be purchased per academic year
- Mac mini: One (1) may be purchased per academic year
- Notebook: One (1) may be purchased per academic year
- Display: A maximum of two (2) may be purchased per academic year
- Software: A maximum of two (2) per software title may be purchased per academic year
- Apple TV: There is no limit on the quantity of Apple TV purchases per academic year
- iPod: There is no limit on the quantity of iPod purchases per academic year
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Buy in store-

If you buy in an Apple store the HE Contract does not apply and it is like going into any shop with a student discount so she can buy it for you unless you are expressly notified she cannot, but as I said the discounts are not as good in store. Especially Applecare which is closer to £125 than £40.
 
Buy in store-

If you buy in an Apple store the HE Contract does not apply and it is like going into any shop with a student discount so she can buy it for you unless you are expressly notified she cannot, but as I said the discounts are not as good in store. Especially Applecare which is closer to £125 than £40.
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This is not my experience. I bought my MacBook Air using my Apple HE Agreement, and got the full discount (More than the standard one, and it lines up with my unis Apple Online HE Agreement Store), and AppleCare for 51 quid.
 
chrismacguy said:
This is not my experience. I bought my MacBook Air using my Apple HE Agreement, and got the full discount (More than the standard one, and it lines up with my unis Apple Online HE Agreement Store), and AppleCare for 51 quid.
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There is a difference between the HE Contract applying and some retail stores giving you a good offer. I've known of all kinds of people get discounts just by asking nicely and showing a card- military, fireman, NHS etc. Apple store staff can be very friendly, it is always worth a try.

If you had bought online there would have been no need to spend £51 on Applecare at all as the HE Contract would have applied and so a 3 year warranty would have been standard. Had you not bought the £51 Applecare in store there would have been no 3 year warranty. Here you were fortunate that they offered you the same prices as online, but that doesn't mean they offered you the same terms.
 
iStudentUK said:
Buy online or on phone-

Apple signed an agreement with the UACG to arrange a special Higher Education Contract, for which almost all UK university students are eligible. This deal gives students much better discounts and a free 3-year hardware warranty with the option to upgrade to Applecare for ~£40. This is only available online or over the phone.

Note T&Cs section 2.1-



(emphasis added, don't play find the T&Cs with a law student :p :D)

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/uk/Images/salespolicies_individualHE.html

So if your partner buys online and gets the better discount she should not purchase it as a gift as this is breach of s2.1 and Apple could, in theory, sue her. As I said earlier, it is fine for her to buy it for herself and later realise that she no longer wants/needs it and sell it on, maybe even to you?! But she should be sure as s2.8 applies-



Buy in store-

If you buy in an Apple store the HE Contract does not apply and it is like going into any shop with a student discount so she can buy it for you unless you are expressly notified she cannot, but as I said the discounts are not as good in store. Especially Applecare which is closer to £125 than £40.
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Much better ;)

So if she does suddenly feel after she buys it that she doesn't want it, I can change the details to my name? Of course they wouldn't know I knew her, I could say I bought it through Gumtree, and was given receipt? Then get Apple Care in my name, etc.

Thanks,

GarfieldH
 
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GarfieldH said:
Much better ;)

So if she does suddenly feel after she buys it that she doesn't want it, I can change the details to my name? Of course they wouldn't know I knew her, I could say I bought it through Gumtree, and was given receipt? Then get Apple Care if my name, etc.

Thanks,

GarfieldH
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This is where my knowledge falls away as I didn't bother with Applecare as I knew I'd keep it myself for 3 years. So please don't take this at face value!

I think that there is a email/phone that the original owner contacts to change the registered owner. Applecare goes with the product, not the person, but I think they ask the original owner to change the registered name so they know it is not stolen etc. I'm not sure what that number is though. Sorry!

It really doesn't matter if she knows you, so long as she wanted it for her own use when she bought it she can sell it on to you later and transfer Applecare to you.
 
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iStudentUK said:
This is where my knowledge falls away as I didn't bother with Applecare as I knew I'd keep it myself for 3 years. So please don't take this at face value!

I think that there is a email/phone that the original owner contacts to change the registered owner. Applecare goes with the product, not the person, but I think they ask the original owner to change the registered name so they know it is not stolen etc. I'm not sure what that number is though. Sorry!

It really doesn't matter if she knows you, so long as she wanted it for her own use when she bought it she can sell it on to you later and transfer Applecare to you.
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Great information, thanks.

Hoping someone can confirm about ringing up to change, would be very helpful, and the number if possible.. apart from this all my answers are pretty much answered :eek:

Thanks,

GarfieldH
 
iStudentUK said:
There is a difference between the HE Contract applying and some retail stores giving you a good offer. I've known of all kinds of people get discounts just by asking nicely and showing a card- military, fireman, NHS etc. Apple store staff can be very friendly, it is always worth a try.

If you had bought online there would have been no need to spend £51 on Applecare at all as the HE Contract would have applied and so a 3 year warranty would have been standard. Had you not bought the £51 Applecare in store there would have been no 3 year warranty. Here you were fortunate that they offered you the same prices as online, but that doesn't mean they offered you the same terms.
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I bought AppleCare for the phone support, I got the 3 year warranty without it was my point, or at least thats what I was told by the specialist and manager in store. That was my point, it was the same exact terms, identical - thats why AppleCare is listed as "EMEA CC-HE contract uplift" instead of "AppleCare Auto-Enroll" on my reciept.
 
chrismacguy said:
I bought AppleCare for the phone support, I got the 3 year warranty without it was my point, or at least thats what I was told by the specialist and manager in store. That was my point, it was the same exact terms, identical - thats why AppleCare is listed as "EMEA CC-HE contract uplift" instead of "AppleCare Auto-Enroll" on my reciept.
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In which case you were extremely fortunate. The contract signed by Apple and UACG specifically states only online or over the phone. Really, I don't think the manager shouldn't have said that, although clearly it works out better for you! Most students complain that Apple staff have no idea about the UK HE standard warranty, so this way around is a refreshing change.
 
iStudentUK said:
In which case you were extremely fortunate. The contract signed by Apple and UACG specifically states only online or over the phone. Really, I don't think the manager shouldn't have said that, although clearly it works out better for you! Most students complain that Apple staff have no idea about the UK HE standard warranty, so this way around is a refreshing change.
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Who knows, could be a change of policy, could just be I was exceptionally lucky - but still, it was a very good experience :D
 
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I got full HE discount in-store in London for my mac pro and bought AppleCare as well for 40 quid. I dis ask about the agreement but the staff had no idea about it. 40 quid on 1700 quid is pretty negligible especially when you consider the added re-sell value you get if your computer is still covered by apple care. I think the HE warranty is not transferable like apple care.
 
I've gotten edu discounts for family on multiple occasions. My grandmother was buying a MBP, and I was able to get her a discount on applecare(Store Person knew it was for my grandmother too), and I also got a discount for my my mom's iMac. That said, I don't know about those special education discounts that were mentioned.

Good Luck
 
brucem91 said:
I've gotten edu discounts for family on multiple occasions. My grandmother was buying a MBP, and I was able to get her a discount on applecare(Store Person knew it was for my grandmother too), and I also got a discount for my my mom's iMac. That said, I don't know about those special education discounts that were mentioned.

Good Luck
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You have to be in a participating university (possibly UK only) to get it - we got a link to a special non-standard apple store online to get the bigger discount.
 
My friend's dad is a professor at a university, I wanted a macbook pro.

1. Asked my friends dad to come with me when I bought laptop
2. He said ok.
3. We went to the apple store at the university.
4. I bought the macbook pro.
5. My friend's dad showed his college I.D
6. I paid with my credit card.
7. I got a macbook pro.
 
GarfieldH said:
My partner is at uni, she is elgible for student discount (of course)

She wants to use the discount for me, so I'm wondering can she purchase a "present" for me and get the product in my name with Apple care?

I'm located in the United Kingdom..

I've been looking for the answer all over, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks in advance!

GarfieldH
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I have read the agreement rules to buy mac and there is nothing mentioned like that any one can purchase mac as a present in some other name.The following education individuals are eligible to purchase through the Apple Store for Education individuals:

1. Faculty or staff member of a public or private Higher Education Institution in Australia
2. Student currently attending or accepted into a public or private Higher Education Institution in Australia
3. Currently at Next Byte Student discounts are only available at UQ and University of Melbourne locations
4. Parent purchasing on behalf of their child who is a student currently attending, accepted or applied for admission into a public or private Higher Education Institution in Australia
 
daceymathers said:
I have read the agreement rules to buy mac and there is nothing mentioned like that any one can purchase mac as a present in some other name.The following education individuals are eligible to purchase through the Apple Store for Education individuals
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This thread is 3 months old, I'm sure it is sorted by now.

In the UK (where the OP asked about) Apple Higher Education Store online there is a term that states the mac purchased should be intended for their own personal use. See section 2.1 here.

There is nothing stopping a student selling it on later, but technically they should intend to use it themselves when they buy it.
 
iStudentUK said:
Buy online or on phone-

Apple signed an agreement with the UACG to arrange a special Higher Education Contract, for which almost all UK university students are eligible. This deal gives students much better discounts and a free 3-year hardware warranty with the option to upgrade to Applecare for ~£40. This is only available online or over the phone.
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Best way to do it. You also get a larger discount this way. Apple Store or any other Apple Authorised Reseller can only offer a 15% discount. I saved 21% on my MacBook Pro and 25% on an iMac. The amount of discount does vary between universities though.
 
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