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ABernardoJr

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usptact

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No for patents! They are meant only for dominant and rich get even more rich and influential.
 

AZREOSpecialist

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If Apple cannot beat them....they sue them. Way to go Apple, you are devoid of morals and innovation.

When can we officially say that Apple is now the New Microsoft?

Apple is devoid of morals and innovation? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea of Apple's philanthropy? Also, Apple INVENTED the whole concept of touch UI for iPhone and iPad - now the rest of the industry is scrambling to catch up by copying the leader. While imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, the imitators are simply copying for free what took Apple years to develop at a likely cost of several hundred million dollars. And Apple does not have a right to protect its investment?

Apple should just buy Samsung. That will get them a big foot in the consumer electronics sector.
 

Spoony

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One more thing. I'm not sure you guys know how Samsung works or really know how Big Samsung is.

It is the world's largest private conglomerage by Revenue. Annual Revenue of over 170Billion.

Apple Inc. (2nd largest market cap, pretty massive company) Over 65B of sales.

Samsung is almost 3X bigger in terms of Sales.

My point being that Samung phones and Samsung component makers are pretty much two separate companies that consolidate together. I'd bet that Samung Components treats Samsung phones just like any other vendor.

Apple suing the phone arm of samsung probably has zero impact on the component piece. Different entities almost with different relationships etc.. Samsung definitely values the apple relationship. It's the phone arm that ripped off apple's design and funtionality.
 

rjohnstone

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Apple is devoid of morals and innovation? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea of Apple's philanthropy? Also, Apple INVENTED the whole concept of touch UI for iPhone and iPad - now the rest of the industry is scrambling to catch up by copying the leader. While imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, the imitators are simply copying for free what took Apple years to develop at a likely cost of several hundred million dollars. And Apple does not have a right to protect its investment?

Apple should just buy Samsung. That will get them a big foot in the consumer electronics sector.
Wrong... Apple didn't invent the concept of the touch UI, they bought most of what they have and own very little rights to it.
 

ssk2

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In this topic, people pretend to be IP lawyers to justify their own pre-held positions. Fun.

With regards to the actual topic, Apple would not win in court, but Samsung will settle for a not insubstantial sum. It really is that simple.
 

chugg

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Wow, an article about Apple suing someone, that has more negatives than positives?

Thats probably a first.

Give it some time and watch the positives skyrocket by the end of the day. If this were an article about Microsoft suing somebody, it'd be all negatives.
 

ayasin

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Apple is devoid of morals and innovation? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea of Apple's philanthropy? Also, Apple INVENTED the whole concept of touch UI for iPhone and iPad

Yep you're right. Apple invented the touch UI. Before Apple, Palm used a keyboard and mouse to dial numbers in the Palm OS phones. Also what philanthropy are you talking about?
 

babbit

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LG was first (before iPhone) to release smart phone with capacitive screen and UI that looks suspiciously close to iPhone. Here is Prada:

http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/PRADA-Phone-LG-KE850-1.jpg

If Apple prevails in court. LG would be stupid not to sue Apple (and they would probably get more money considering iPhone volumes).

The iPhone 1 was announced before the Prada phone. Patent dates showed iPhone implementation of a capacitive touchscreen phone at least a year before LG showed their Prada phone in 2006. The Prada shipped in small shipments before the iPhone, so that is their only claim that it was technically released before the iPhone even though real shipments occurred months later. Technically, if Apple wanted to, they could have sued LG.

Also, the Prada isn't a smartphone. It can't load apps. It doesn't even have a qwerty keyboard. You input text through the phone dialer like old school SMS.
 
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Digital Skunk

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Wow, that does look familiar!

It looks just like the original Palm UI....

Maybe HP should sue Samsung instead :rolleyes:

--t

Wrong... Apple didn't invent the concept of the touch UI, they bought most of what they have and own very little rights to it.

Dang it!

Ya'll beat me too it.

It's nice to know though, that there are some at Macrumors that actually KNOW where Apple got most of their "innovation" from.

And I hope no one goes mentioning the Newton . . . when a simple Wikipedia search will do.
 

*LTD*

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It's very likely that Apple's been ripped off left right. I wouldn't be surprised. These also-rans can barely manage to copy, let alone innovate anything worth using.
 

LagunaSol

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I'm surprised it's taken this long, to be honest: I've thought for a long time that Samsung's phones in particular are pretty much a blatant rip-off of Apple's industrial design and user interface.

Indeed, the haters will scream and rant about this lawsuit, but Samsung has a special knack for making their devices look exactly like Apple's equivalents.
 

Consultant

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Yay go Apple. From the little guy everyone cheered for to the ... big guy that sues everyone and still has everyone cheering for.

So you think Apple's goal is to be free R&D for the rest of the industry? :rolleyes:
 

ChazUK

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I'm reading that this includes the Nexus S (which has no samsung touchwiz "optimisations" at all).

Why doesn't Apple simply go for the jugular and hit Google with an Android lawsuit?
 

lilo777

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In this topic, people pretend to be IP lawyers to justify their own pre-held positions. Fun.

With regards to the actual topic, Apple would not win in court, but Samsung will settle for a not insubstantial sum. It really is that simple.

Samsung can easily do that. Pay Apple and then get their money back by raising the prices on RAM and flash memory (because their cost base grew as a result of patent litigation)
 

cirus

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Have you looked at the TouchWiz UI? It's almost identical to iOS - dock at the bottom, pages of icons in a grid and you even remove applications in the same way as you do on the iPhone. I've nothing at all against competition for iOS, but they shouldn't just rip the design off

http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Galaxy-S-24-375x500.jpg

Where is the logical place for a dock? At the bottom (no brainer--do you want to turn your device sideways or upside down?). Grid is the most efficient layout. How else are you going to lay them out?

Delete is a little similar, but it is one of the easiest ways to delete something. You can't exactly right click and going to the menu to delete apps seems innefficient.
 
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LagunaSol

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Do you honestly think that even strikes anything close to a sufficient resemblance to the iPhone UI?

Of course he doesn't, but it's a fun way to agitate the forum. Unfortunately he doesn't get the love here that he gets camping the Engadget forum and hating on everything Apple. They love that kind of bitterness over there.
 
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