Control Surface for Aperture?

I kind of doubt that Aperture will ever have the ability to be controlled by an external device. Most of the interface seems like it would be hard to control using a hardware control (I'm thinking curves, for example).

Plus, I can't think of any photo editing/ management software that can do this (I'd love to be surprised though). But, at the very least go submit the feature to Apple and maybe they'll put it in.

Actually, I have heard of people using MIDI controllers to run Lightroom. Unfortunately, it would be a big software change for you, and I think some of the interface software may have been windows only. But I am not 100% on the details.

Ruahrc said:

Actually, I have heard of people using MIDI controllers to run Lightroom. Unfortunately, it would be a big software change for you, and I think some of the interface software may have been windows only. But I am not 100% on the details.

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Well I stand corrected then. I guess it could be kind of useful to be able to just move a physical slider up and down to control exposure, while balance, etc.

Maybe a happy middle ground (or maybe even worse, depending on your opinion) would be an iPad app á la what Abode is doing for Photoshop.

You could quite easily configure a MIDI controller to interact with Aperture. Download MidiPipe and play around with it:

http://web.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/MidiPipe.html

Here's what one person did with MidiPipe and some video switching software:

vidplusplus.com/category/tutorials/

That looks like it's very handy! Back in the FCP 7 days, it supported control surfaces and there are a few iPad apps that would control audio editing and color correction, and it was great... but FCP X doesn't have that anymore. I always imagined that a similar solution would be great for Aperture too.

Aperture 4, coming soon to an apple retailer near you, Dec-2014



Sounds like you need Aperture 4 Pro.....good luck

This idea may be worth a look

Hi

I have not got this to work, but if I have time I will give it a try.

Watch this - I know it is Lightroom but these controllers are easy to acquire and cheap - http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=B2Y2MnM6RyA

I use a piece of software called ControllerMate - http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate - to code a Saitek version of the Logitech Controller for gaming. Writing the controller equivalent of keyboard milti presses is easy. I know that Controllermate will carry out Midi commands as well, if you are looking at that alternative.

What I was thinking is that if you make photo adjustments using a set of regular keyboard commands and these could be strung together, this could replicated on the controller with a single keystroke.

Just found this and the demonstration is set up for Pixelmator! Might be worth contacting the developer for some assistance. If a tie up with Aperture could be made it might drive more business his way. http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate/example/#example_008

Like I said, I have a busy week, but if I get chance I will see what I can achieve.

ipedro said:

This is exactly what I was looking for. Now available... for LightRoom:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=83FrU17z2to

...Apple is falling way behind here. First an Adobe iPad LightRoom editing app now this. I'm finding more and more compelling arguments to switch.

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I don't get how Apple is falling behind on the MIDI control surface front. That plugin is a 3rd-party plugin for Lightroom; not even Adobe is allowing MIDI input for Lightroom without 3rd party help. Neither Adobe nor Apple directly support the use of MIDI interfaces with photo work.

That being said, it is relatively easy to set up MIDI controllers for many different softwares. Use the aforementioned tools like MidiPipe in conjunction with AppleScript to create an automated interval increase/decrease per each MIDI value adjustment (e.g. if a slider value increases by 1, exposure increases by 0.1).

I'm curious as to how MIDI will be able to reconcile the difference between the hardware slider values and the software values. If you keep the sliders as-is and switch to another photo, will you be practically stamping the old photo's settings onto the new one? Since sliders are mirrored on DAWs, there's no issues in audio but with photo sliders this could potentially be a problem.

Prodo123 said:

I'm curious as to how MIDI will be able to reconcile the difference between the hardware slider values and the software values. If you keep the sliders as-is and switch to another photo, will you be practically stamping the old photo's settings onto the new one? Since sliders are mirrored on DAWs, there's no issues in audio but with photo sliders this could potentially be a problem.

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I would expect that it wouldn't change anything until you moved a slider. Then it would snap to the slider's position. The console should only be outputting MIDI data when there is a change in value. It isn't constantly streaming the notes.

While I don't have an enormous workflow this still has me a bit intrigued. A console slider would provide a more organic operation than clicking and dragging a mouse. I'm already spending too much on photography!

ipedro said:

Aperture doesn't allow shortcut keys to be assigned to adjustments, only to bring up HUDs. Lightroom does.

I would settle for an iPad companion app at this point. If the adjustment HUD could be controlled by touch, I'd be happy enough. The current cursor to grab a slider and adjust is exhausting if you're working with thousands of images like I do.

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Actually it does.
It allows you to map adjustments to keyboard shortcuts, e.g. a vignette, using the shortcut mapper located in Aperture > Commands > Customize. Once the adjustment is added, you can use arrow keys to increase or decrease the adjustment.
Tab also cycles through the active adjustment, which can be useful in scripting for MIDI.

Like I said, none of these programs support MIDI natively. Even with Lightroom you need a plugin to make MIDI work. Without any tweaking you're never going to get what you're looking for.

I personally don't mind working on my twelve thousand photos with virtual sliders, especially since they don't wear down as opposed to linear pots, but I guess we all have our own pet peeves.

ipedro said:

I've waited this long for Aperture 4 and I'm compelled to wait until it's released to make up my mind, but I'm this close to just starting a new library on Lightroom.

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Ah, so you were this close to abandoning Apple (hey, love the italics...). But you feel compelled (my italics...) to wait for the release of Aperture 4 before you decide. I hope your final decision will be signalled in the way the Pope was chosen. I, for one, will be waiting impatiently for the smoke to go from black to white...