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Lodsys Responds to Apple, Files Lawsuits Against App Developers
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Psystar was a joke that mildly threatened Apple's bottom line. Lodsys could actually hurt someone enough to put them out of business (small developers).
And now for a great chuckle after reading this part 
"Finally, Lodsys has announced that it will reimburse any developer improperly targeted by an infringement notice $1,000 for their troubles,"
$1000 muhahahaha, oh my like that real money any more
That would just be the retaining fee for an attorney for the first week.
"Finally, Lodsys has announced that it will reimburse any developer improperly targeted by an infringement notice $1,000 for their troubles,"
$1000 muhahahaha, oh my like that real money any more
That would just be the retaining fee for an attorney for the first week.
I don't imagine this to be an easy fix at all. I am just trying to simplify what I would like to see happen as an end result if the overall patent problems are ever addressed and dealt with.
Thank you for your added insight, though
Ninja please this is full Shock and Awe.
And forget about the Patent system been fix, I predict this is going to get even worse in the coming years, ah humans so simple to understand.
Feels a lot more like posturing than a real, legitimate offer that is "putting their money where their mouth is".
If they lose, what recourse do individual devs have to collect on that $1000? I'd love to see the paperwork that promises this $1000 and in the case Lodsys loses, the devs' $1000/each is about the *last* thing payable if Lodsys becomes financially insolvent (read: attorneys and preffered shareholders will end up with some percentage of funds owed them long before any devs ever get the chance to see a cent).
It's a zero-risk bargain for them to make this offer that makes them look like they're serious or they have a serious claim. Perhaps they do, but really, this just smells like a stunt.
If they lose, what recourse do individual devs have to collect on that $1000? I'd love to see the paperwork that promises this $1000 and in the case Lodsys loses, the devs' $1000/each is about the *last* thing payable if Lodsys becomes financially insolvent (read: attorneys and preffered shareholders will end up with some percentage of funds owed them long before any devs ever get the chance to see a cent).
It's a zero-risk bargain for them to make this offer that makes them look like they're serious or they have a serious claim. Perhaps they do, but really, this just smells like a stunt.
$1000 doesn't show confidence, it actually shows quite the opposite.
"We'll reimburse you $100,000 for your troubles" shows you're the gambling type. "We'll reimburse you $1 million" shows confidence.
Anything less than that is just for show, but low enough that they don't risk fighting lawyers willing to work on contingency...
"We'll reimburse you $100,000 for your troubles" shows you're the gambling type. "We'll reimburse you $1 million" shows confidence.
Anything less than that is just for show, but low enough that they don't risk fighting lawyers willing to work on contingency...
Developers UNITE!
First thing I would suggest to all developers is the following:
DO NOT PAY LODSYS A DIME UNTIL THE VERDICT MANDATES!
This is a tactic to frighten those who don't have access to the Apple Ninja Lawyers to get money off of them.
Best thing to do is to not pay until forced by the court. If they had a case they wouldn't have so quickly changed tactics and kept their focus only on suing Apple. Since they know they will not win, any contract that they write will have a clause in it that will keep it standing no matter what verdict is reached.
Strength in NUMBERS! Stay strong developers!
First thing I would suggest to all developers is the following:
DO NOT PAY LODSYS A DIME UNTIL THE VERDICT MANDATES!
This is a tactic to frighten those who don't have access to the Apple Ninja Lawyers to get money off of them.
Best thing to do is to not pay until forced by the court. If they had a case they wouldn't have so quickly changed tactics and kept their focus only on suing Apple. Since they know they will not win, any contract that they write will have a clause in it that will keep it standing no matter what verdict is reached.
Strength in NUMBERS! Stay strong developers!
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/31/lodsys-responds-to-apple-files-lawsuits-against-app-developers/
I agree. If they sued 7 developers, then their downside is $7k. This is merely to show they are being "reasonable" and the negative press is unwarranted. Frankly, why do they care if they are a patent troll - that's what is odd. Maybe they are hoping this goes to trial and these actions could sway a jury?
Two things wrong with that:
1. Lodsys then gets rich from Apple's buyout.
2. All the other patent trolls do just what Lodsys did in hopes of an Apple buyout.
This is the single part of your post I disagree with: Lodsys' focus has never been to sue Apple, especially in an "only" fashion. They have been pretty consistent in going after the App Makers. Why would they sue Apple when Apple is already licensed for this patent?
Why in the world would anyone prefer to actually reward this kind of behavior with big paychecks?
This is Kyle Poole from Wulven Game Studios. Like hundreds if not thousands of Apps, we use In-App payments for our TCG Shadow Era, which Touch Arcade hailed as "A fantastic representation of what freemium games should be.".
I wanted to thank Lodsys for suing us. You can't buy awesome publicity like this. I await the massive increase in Shadow Era players!
I wanted to thank Lodsys for suing us. You can't buy awesome publicity like this. I await the massive increase in Shadow Era players!
I think its a front. If they were so confident then why did they push the court dates up?
I don't think Apple is wrong about this, because if they are then Google would be wrong also as Android devs started getting letters. Two technological giants with teams of lawyers most likely know what they are doing more then Lodsys.
Interesting...
Well well...
Here we go again... I though that threatening Apple letter had put them to be quiet in the corner, but it seems they weren't.
Ok, I know some people doesn't like conspiracy theory, but they are something that might be fishy about the whole thing.
According to FOSS Blog today : http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/05/lodsys-sues-7-app-developers-in-eastern.html
One of the firms of lawyers used for the suing is from Seattle, where the previous owner of the pater are (Intellectual Ventures). And we all know which company have office around there... Maybe Lodsys is just being used as a proxy for another company that want to make trouble to their enemies/competitors.
Well well...
Here we go again... I though that threatening Apple letter had put them to be quiet in the corner, but it seems they weren't.
Ok, I know some people doesn't like conspiracy theory, but they are something that might be fishy about the whole thing.
According to FOSS Blog today : http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/05/lodsys-sues-7-app-developers-in-eastern.html
One of the firms of lawyers used for the suing is from Seattle, where the previous owner of the pater are (Intellectual Ventures). And we all know which company have office around there... Maybe Lodsys is just being used as a proxy for another company that want to make trouble to their enemies/competitors.
Most likely they were worried about Apple filing a declaratory judgment in a friendly district, and taking away the venue decision for their lawsuit.
Apple Next Steps
Apple will file for TRO (Temporary Restraining Order) to prevent Lodsys from issuing other lawsuits. Likely will do so to establish a legal forum and consolidate the cases.
Comments that Jobs will take this personally -- hope not. Apple has been all business when going after companies like Lodsys.
$1000 offer? Lodsys likely doesn't have the cash to pay off, so worthless offer.
Apple will file for TRO (Temporary Restraining Order) to prevent Lodsys from issuing other lawsuits. Likely will do so to establish a legal forum and consolidate the cases.
Comments that Jobs will take this personally -- hope not. Apple has been all business when going after companies like Lodsys.
$1000 offer? Lodsys likely doesn't have the cash to pay off, so worthless offer.
You implying this has something to do with another Seattle area tech company that has been known to fund such proxy legal battles before? I'm skeptical that they'd play that trick again because if they are found out (and they would be just like before) they would seriously piss off developers. It seems way too risky for any of the main players to be doing this. Like juggling hand grenades.
Honestly, I'm surprised that everyone is focused on the players in this drama (Apple, Lodsys and the third-party developers) than on the bigger issue of raising awareness for patent reform.
This is an **ideal** case for arguing against software patents. Everyone involved and impacted by this should be raising this issue with their congressman or women.
This is easily the best case I recall ever seeing that can be useful to argue against patents.
Almost always patent cases are A vs B. A/B cases are not good for illustrating that patents stifle innovation. Rarely do we see a case where it is A vs B-to-Z. This cases really illustrates the innovation-stifling nature of software patents and everyone involved should be raising hell over it.
This is an **ideal** case for arguing against software patents. Everyone involved and impacted by this should be raising this issue with their congressman or women.
This is easily the best case I recall ever seeing that can be useful to argue against patents.
Almost always patent cases are A vs B. A/B cases are not good for illustrating that patents stifle innovation. Rarely do we see a case where it is A vs B-to-Z. This cases really illustrates the innovation-stifling nature of software patents and everyone involved should be raising hell over it.