Look how the google smartphone / Android (Prototype) looked like before the iPhone was announced:
... looked like a RIM copy cat.
Source: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/02/g...e_shown_next_week_at_mobile_world_congress-2/
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Apple Adds New Samsung Products to Infringement Lawsuit, Strengthens Assertions
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Look how the google smartphone / Android (Prototype) looked like before the iPhone was announced:
... looked like a RIM copy cat.
Source: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/02/g...e_shown_next_week_at_mobile_world_congress-2/
They may use Android, but look at the custom layout. It's very, very similar to iOS. This combined with the hardware makes it look like a knock-off.
You can bet your bottom dollar, the product team for this product set out with the mission to clone the iPhone as close as possible.
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Wasn't the iPhone the first to use an entirely flat capacitive touch screen interface (smartphone, not PDA)?
Now look at marketplace.
This is no different than the iPad. Look at all the tablet offerings trying to "catch up"
I hope Apple wins this ( I suspect they will settle out of court)!
Wasn't the iPhone the first to use an entirely flat capacitive touch screen interface (smartphone, not PDA)?
Now look at marketplace.
This is no different than the iPad. Look at all the tablet offerings trying to "catch up"
I hope Apple wins this ( I suspect they will settle out of court)!
Its pretty clear every single multi touch screen phone made since 2007 was heavily inspired by the iPhone. Which isnt a bad thing, copying off of Apple usually results in success.
Not going after Samsung isnt even an option for Apple, patent holders by law, must pursue those who infringe if they want to keep their patent rights, or at least thats what i remember from college. If anyone here is evil, its Samsung, they made money on Apples ideas and patents. The fact that Apple products have Samsung stuff in them is not relavent in any way. Apple pays samsung for their components. Infact, its great for Samsung that Apple is ordering so many tens of millions of samsung items for their iPads and iPhones.
Not going after Samsung isnt even an option for Apple, patent holders by law, must pursue those who infringe if they want to keep their patent rights, or at least thats what i remember from college. If anyone here is evil, its Samsung, they made money on Apples ideas and patents. The fact that Apple products have Samsung stuff in them is not relavent in any way. Apple pays samsung for their components. Infact, its great for Samsung that Apple is ordering so many tens of millions of samsung items for their iPads and iPhones.
spot on...
They say stealing is the highest form of flattery, but this is just obscene by Samsung. Save for some VERY minor details the Galaxy S is a total blatant attempt to rip-off of the iPhone UI interface.
They say stealing is the highest form of flattery, but this is just obscene by Samsung. Save for some VERY minor details the Galaxy S is a total blatant attempt to rip-off of the iPhone UI interface.
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My wife's cousin works for Samsung. The last time I visited Korea:
Me: "Look what I got!"
I show off my newest (then) iPhone 3G.
My wife's cousin: "Well, look what I got!"
He brings out what appeared to be a prototype Samsung touchscreen phone with iOS loaded on it. That's right, iOS.
Apparently this is what they do.
Me: "Look what I got!"
I show off my newest (then) iPhone 3G.
My wife's cousin: "Well, look what I got!"
He brings out what appeared to be a prototype Samsung touchscreen phone with iOS loaded on it. That's right, iOS.
Apparently this is what they do.
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Mind=Blown
God I love fanboys....
Apple use an identical notification system to Android? No problem.
Apple use a identical messaging system to RIM? Excellent.
Samsung use a green phone icon to represent the phone app? OMGGGGZZ LAW SUIT!!!?!1
Do you not see the irony?
This topic has been done to death and is clearly not as simple as the fanboys make out. This is clear by the fact that the case(s) continue to rumble on, with no sign of resolution.
Apple use an identical notification system to Android? No problem.
Apple use a identical messaging system to RIM? Excellent.
Samsung use a green phone icon to represent the phone app? OMGGGGZZ LAW SUIT!!!?!1
Do you not see the irony?
This topic has been done to death and is clearly not as simple as the fanboys make out. This is clear by the fact that the case(s) continue to rumble on, with no sign of resolution.
I am not a lawyer, but if I recall correctly, it is not illegal to copy the look-and-feel of another product unless you can prove that it will create real confusion among consumers, creating a potential for fraud. Although it is in bad taste for Samsung to copy Apple, I don't think that alone is grounds for a lawsuit.
What will be interesting is whether there is merit in Apple's patents.
What will be interesting is whether there is merit in Apple's patents.
Another thing so sorely missed is that the home screen you see on the Samsung phone is 100% customizable so it can look like whatever you want it to look like. The iphone is just the iPhone.
Have any of actual seen some of these devices? Why are stock android devices on the list? Why is this suit against the phones and not the UI?
It doesn't make any sense. I agree with Apple on Touch Wiz only, Touch Wiz without widgets looks a lot like iOS, but the phone hardware and physical design don't resemble iPhones. If this suit was against Touch Wiz's UI alone, then yeah Samsung better pay up.
But it's not it's for all there devices, maybe its because Samsung can compete, or maybe the want a cross licensing patent agreement. I don't know, but there something else going on.
Some Devices:
Galaxy Tab 10.1
![samsung-galaxy-tab_10.1.jpg]()
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Galaxy Prevail
![galaxy-prevail-boost.jpg]()
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Nexus S
![nexuss4g.jpg]()
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Replenish
![samsung-replenish.jpg]()
Seriously, that devices is included?
Sidekick 4G
![Samsung-Outs-Source-for-T-Mobile-Sidekick-4G-Android.jpg]()
Who will mistake this for an iOS device instead of a sidekick?
Samsung Transform
![samsung-transform-01.jpg]()
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Samsung Intercept
![m910_600x600_xlarge_cf.jpg]()
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Acclaim
![samsung-acclaim.jpg]()
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And the Galaxy Tab
![samsung-galaxy_tab.jpg]()
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The other phones use Touch Wiz, which I think is a rip of the iPhone's UI. But I don't know why the above phones are in the suit.
It doesn't make any sense. I agree with Apple on Touch Wiz only, Touch Wiz without widgets looks a lot like iOS, but the phone hardware and physical design don't resemble iPhones. If this suit was against Touch Wiz's UI alone, then yeah Samsung better pay up.
But it's not it's for all there devices, maybe its because Samsung can compete, or maybe the want a cross licensing patent agreement. I don't know, but there something else going on.
Some Devices:
Galaxy Tab 10.1
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Galaxy Prevail
?
Nexus S
?
Replenish
Seriously, that devices is included?
Sidekick 4G
Who will mistake this for an iOS device instead of a sidekick?
Samsung Transform
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Samsung Intercept
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Acclaim
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And the Galaxy Tab
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The other phones use Touch Wiz, which I think is a rip of the iPhone's UI. But I don't know why the above phones are in the suit.
And if Steve had a keynote in which he claimed he invented bottled water, I know a lot of people right now just going for it.
Now let's see what would happen, if Nokia would sue the hell out of Apple. They clearly have a case, because you should actually look what they trademarked as Navi (TM)-Key.
Now let's see what would happen, if Nokia would sue the hell out of Apple. They clearly have a case, because you should actually look what they trademarked as Navi (TM)-Key.
Thats the thing. Apple is showing you a picture of the Galaxy looking like an iPhone, they aren't showing you the screen with Widgets and other Android specific features such as the Notification Sy... oops... let me guess iPhone didn't copy Android Notification system thats right. My bad.
No, it' more like he is asking for the keys to your house so that he can go in and take a good peek to make sure next time he robs someone it is not your stuff.
Patent suits are my least favorite tech topic. Look and feel patents are particularly silly. Apple just paid Nokia a ridiculous amount of money for things that should never have been patentable; now they are suing Sammy for things that should not have been patentable.
Regarding the Android prototype pictured above: I had this Sony Clie 10 years ago:
![sony_clie_peg_t615c_02.jpg]()
I used to hold it up to my ear and think: Hmm, if only this were a phone with internet access-- a touch dialpad and I could make calls and browse the web, plus all the palm apps (or whatever they were called back then).
The idea should not have been patentable. Period.
Regarding the Android prototype pictured above: I had this Sony Clie 10 years ago:
I used to hold it up to my ear and think: Hmm, if only this were a phone with internet access-- a touch dialpad and I could make calls and browse the web, plus all the palm apps (or whatever they were called back then).
The idea should not have been patentable. Period.
I have this phone, well, kinda.
I have the Verizon version which actually doesnt resemble this one at all. Samsung knew what they were doing with that model up there and its pretty shameful IMO.
Made this when I first got it. http://youtu.be/WvMSsVd4f6Y
Still love it! I dont use Touchwiz. I use Launcher Pro, a home replacement app. I like a more stock Android feel. I like widgets and costomization. I love the 4" punchy colorful SAMOLED screen. I always found the iPhone 3.5" was too small or me. =( Im not here to bash the iPhone. I have an iPad 2 which I love and I cant wait for iOS5. But yeah Sammy really needs to get rid of Touchwiz and iPhone 3GS knockoff. They actually kind of did with the Samsung Galaxy II, which looks great! cant we all just get along?
I have the Verizon version which actually doesnt resemble this one at all. Samsung knew what they were doing with that model up there and its pretty shameful IMO.
Made this when I first got it. http://youtu.be/WvMSsVd4f6Y
Still love it! I dont use Touchwiz. I use Launcher Pro, a home replacement app. I like a more stock Android feel. I like widgets and costomization. I love the 4" punchy colorful SAMOLED screen. I always found the iPhone 3.5" was too small or me. =( Im not here to bash the iPhone. I have an iPad 2 which I love and I cant wait for iOS5. But yeah Sammy really needs to get rid of Touchwiz and iPhone 3GS knockoff. They actually kind of did with the Samsung Galaxy II, which looks great! cant we all just get along?
Based on what goes on over there, maybe Apple can buy the meeting minutes and recordings, plus e-mails for $ 3,000 or so.
Really?
So the complaint is that Samsung copied a grid layout of the phones applications with a section at the bottom for 4 always on-screen apps and a rounded-corner shaped phone? Im pretty sure Palm beat Apple a long time ago to the grid-based app layout with the Palm OS 1 and the Palm Pilot 1000 in the mid 1990's and they even had 4 buttons that linked to apps at the bottom of the screen. So how about you think before you blindly stick behind Apples every move.
So the complaint is that Samsung copied a grid layout of the phones applications with a section at the bottom for 4 always on-screen apps and a rounded-corner shaped phone? Im pretty sure Palm beat Apple a long time ago to the grid-based app layout with the Palm OS 1 and the Palm Pilot 1000 in the mid 1990's and they even had 4 buttons that linked to apps at the bottom of the screen. So how about you think before you blindly stick behind Apples every move.
This isn't a patent claim, which hinges on similarities in HOW they work. This is a trademark claim,which hinges on the potential for consumer confusion. The look and feel is what is relevant in a trademark or, more accurately in this case, trade dress case.