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I'm going to make a wild guess here and say that the MBP tested doesn't have an SSD? It doesn't seem to say on the site.

Hahahaha. Give the MBP a decent SSD, then we'll see what's faster.

Anyways, I'm mostly curious as to the IGP's performance.

Geekbench doesn't measure hard drive performance, so in fact the Macbook Air would only come out even further ahead if that were taken in account. It's strictly CPU and memory performance being measured here.

Do these benchmarks take into consideration the GPU?

Nope.
 
I really only use my 11" MBA for web browsing. I have a desktop PC as my workhorse.

Still, seeing these improvements makes me very jealous.

I use my older Air as my workhorse! While my big desktop collects dust.

That old Air isn’t as fast, but it’s plenty fast enough, and having all my stuff ready to grab with one hand and take to another room or a friend’s house is just too convenient. I don’t MEAN to ignore the big guy, but it’s what has happened! (It makes a nice TV/DVR though.)

With the new Air I’ll be VERY happy! Probably the 11” with Core i7. But maybe the 13” for $50 less (but less speed and more bulky).

And I often throw my iPad in the bag, which gives me a second display to use (DisplayPad app) while still keeping me highly portable. Thus the 13” is less tempting, even for Photoshop/Flash/tons-o-palettes.
 
This just shows total lack of useful benchmarks for Macs. This is clearly not a very "geeky" test.
 
I'd like to see the 13 inch 2011 MBA against the 13 inch 2011 MBP--those are the models I'm considering right now. Since the 2011 MBP blew the 2010 MBP out of the water in several benchmarks, I assume it will best the 2011 MBA.
 
That didn't take long.

True, the real treat is going to be what they'll put into the next MBP and Mac Pro revisions. Technology pushes forward!

It's nice to see the Air getting some horse power now. The form factor is truly a mobile warrior's dream.

I don't think we'll see the MBP loose it's optical drive being that it's a machine that more than just the average person uses. Authoring DVDs on the go is a must if even for 13" MBP users.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen with the 13" and 15" machines seeing that many pros still opt for the 17" to do some highend work.

Maybe I am crazy, but Ive just realised that I want new 11inch MBA and Thunderbolt Display. Am I crazy? I need feedback. I want it mostly for Aperture and Photoshop. Cinema display has firewire so I can connect my external drives. Seems perfect. Doesnt it?

It does, but I wouldn't dare catch myself running Aperture on a machine with a screen that tiny, a hard drive that small, and an integrated GPU. It's nice if you are using Aperture to replace iPhoto and to do some minor things here and there, but you still may be better with a 13" MBP 2011 model of course.

But, these specs are showing that the Air is becoming a real option for even some moderate power users.
 
Maybe I am crazy, but Ive just realised that I want new 11inch MBA and Thunderbolt Display. Am I crazy? I need feedback. I want it mostly for Aperture and Photoshop. Cinema display has firewire so I can connect my external drives. Seems perfect. Doesnt it?

Sounds tempting, right? An external display/docking station for desktop-style use, 2nd-gen Core speed, SSD speed, plus the most portable laptop ever—all in one?

But you’re flat-out crazy if you’d consider an Air for serious work: I’ve done that (Photoshop, Flash, OpenOffice) for 3 years on my Air, and it means that ALL MY WORK is right there, ready to grab with one hand and run out the door! No synching needed, nothing to think about. I just have all my projects with me SO much more of the time than I used to with my 15” bulkmonster. And yet I can do everything I need right on the Air.

That means I’m never away from work :( My clients can get me to do stuff all the time!

Do yourself a favor: if you do pro work, get the bulkiest laptop you can, or a giant tower, and tell your clients you’ll "deal with it" when you get back to the office :)

Don’t get addicted to the Air like me. Save yourself.
 
Anyone have the numbers for the regualr versions of the MBA, the numbers I see are for the BTO systems.

11" - 64 - i5 = ?
11" - 128 - i5 = ?
13" - 128 - i5 = ?
13" - 256 - i5 = ?

Thanks in Advance, sorry if I missed these earlier.
 
Not entirely surprising, considering how aggressive the Turbo Boost is.

Everyone should keep in mind that Ivy Bridge is next year. This is when we should see a quad-core MacBook Air (and Mac Mini), and 8-core iMacs. Additionally, there will also be the move to 22nm fabrication processes in addition to 3D transistors, which should be comparable to a fabrication shrink itself.

If you think this year was a big boost, wait until you see what Intel has in store for next year.

The new MBA dont have turbo boost or hyperthreading. Read the specifications on the Apple Website.
 
Mmmmmm. Once again, let's test a computer with an SSD vs. a computer without an SSD.

CONCLUSION: an SSD is faster than a conventional hard drive! Wowzers!
 
Wait, WHAT!

The MBA 13 has screen res that is = to MBP 15? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

This shows that the MBP needs a spec bump.

MBP 13 should get the MBA 13 res screen
MBP 15 should have its "hi-res" 1680x1050 screen standard,
MBP 17...left alone I guess

The MBPs can get a SLIGHT graphics boost...

Anyone think Apple can release External GPU dock, which would be good for MBA and the MBP 13.
 
Hahahaha. Give the MBP a decent SSD, then we'll see what's faster.

Anyways, I'm mostly curious as to the IGP's performance.

Which would add even more cost onto the already substantial £2099 cost from last year.

It's £849 and it rivals a machine costing more than twice the price, what more do you want?
 
These comparisons between machines shouldn't really mean much.
What I need is how well MBA performs MY needs.
 
CPU and GPU are the most important parts for me... and GPU just took a huge step backward. Screw the geekbench. Booooo...

Run some games and see how bad intel HD3000 is.
 
so would it be a reasonable assumption that the high-end 11" spec'd with the i7 should have an identical score? or am i forgetting another difference between them?
 
I'm most excited for the MBP (IB) refresh. Standard Quad Core (3D Transistors look fantastic), new gen of AMD mGPUs, no ODD and .75 inch body, standard SSD...and most of all, the much needed resolution bump. 1280x800 on the 13" MBP is a total joke. I can't believe Apple got away with that one.

I can't believe Apple's been getting away with glossy screens on a 'Pro' labeled computer.
 
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