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Amazon's 'Kindle' App Updated to Remove Direct Kindle Store Links
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I am sure Apple was not opposed to the idea of Amazon actually paying the 30%, they gave it a try. In the end they retreated to the just-do-not-have-a-link-to-your-store-in-your-app position.
Deft, I really appreciate your attempt but, I'd give up man.
I've been trying for months on a number of tech sites to explain the business model in the simplest ways possible. It's pointless. It's clear most technophiles have no understanding of business. And that's being kind. Even when a actual MacRumors Analyst came in and told people they were misunderstanding the business, people just ignored him. You even get people arguing that Apple should not take a percentage of sales and instead Apple should pay the developers. Nuts. They have ZERO understanding. Give up man. I have.
Pretty good deal
$100 for all the books the world cares to buy.
Now what does Apple pay to sell content to the Kindle?
$100 for all the books the world cares to buy.
Now what does Apple pay to sell content to the Kindle?
roadbloc
macrumors G3
Um... what? Who would even want to put iTunes on a Kindle? That would be as pointless as having iTunes on a toaster. I really do not see the point you are trying to make.
At all.
0007776
Suspended
Since the kindle app was what put me over the edge for an iPad apple got at least the sale of one iPad in compensation. I doubt I'm the only one who decided to buy it since that app was available. However it isn't a big deal to lose the button as I mostly buy books from Safari anyway, but I probably won't update the app.
ck2875
macrumors 65816
Still Links to Kindle Store.
I just found where the Kindle app still links to purchase a copy of the book by taking you to their mobile site rather than in app purchases.
How/where? If you have a book downloaded onto 6 devices and try to download it onto a 7th device, you get a pop up notification saying that you can either purchase another copy or cancel. If you click purchase, then it takes you to the Kindle mobile store with the option to buy another copy without making an in-app purchase.
I'm somewhat surprised that made it through the review process.
(note: sorry if someone already posted this, but i am at work and didn't have time to go through all the prior postings (yet had time to write this 😉)).
I just found where the Kindle app still links to purchase a copy of the book by taking you to their mobile site rather than in app purchases.
How/where? If you have a book downloaded onto 6 devices and try to download it onto a 7th device, you get a pop up notification saying that you can either purchase another copy or cancel. If you click purchase, then it takes you to the Kindle mobile store with the option to buy another copy without making an in-app purchase.
I'm somewhat surprised that made it through the review process.
(note: sorry if someone already posted this, but i am at work and didn't have time to go through all the prior postings (yet had time to write this 😉)).
nwcs
macrumors 68030
So Apple's not doing any philanthropy or educational discounts? Um, no.
And you don't suspect those companies use their philanthropic efforts as a means of advertising? So you don't see their logos blasted all around and don't see press releases or news stories about some donation or other? They're just anonymous gifts that don't benefit the company in any possible way?
Google and open source... They take a lot as much as they give. And they find ways to monetize their stuff pretty well with advertising. Microsoft does discount some things and then jack up prices on the other end. Check out SQL Server licensing sometime.
But that's irrelevant. They maximize their profits in a similar way as Apple does (since Apple does have discounts and we cannot say with any certainty what it does anonymously).
Notice I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it's business. And Apple has every right to run their business to maximize profits as they see fit. If it works, bully for them. If it doesn't, they'll change.
To each his own
I don't like, on the Kindle, being limited to one brand of content provider.
I don't like, on the Kindle, being limited to one brand of content provider.
Nor are all goods sold on Amazon fulfilled by Amazon, yet the same conditions apply. Apple provides a vehicle (its hardware, software, and app store) that ultimately enable other businesses to profit. If Apple's platform didn't have the potential to generate more business for Amazon and others, those companies would have yanked their apps altogether.
Logic query
And this is "highly likely to become" an Apple monopoly issue because...?
And this is "highly likely to become" an Apple monopoly issue because...?
Good point. I've never purchased a Kindle book anywhere but on Amazon's web site. Just like in a real book store, I like to browse, and doing that on an iOS device isn't the same experience.
Appreciation
As a business, they should be glad to the extent that it sells products and makes them money.
As a business, they should be glad to the extent that it sells products and makes them money.
Dude, again give up. This guy will just talk in circles. I tried probably about 30 posts in another thread to explain to this guys and some similar thinkers. I was right were you are, trying to explain how Apple opened a new revenue stream. Its like talking to a wall. They totally don't get it.
Boy did they ever patent it
One reason not to move to Android might be that the supply of devices may dry up in December when the ITC makes final its determination of patent infringement.
One reason not to move to Android might be that the supply of devices may dry up in December when the ITC makes final its determination of patent infringement.
Here's a perfect example!
Yeah, why bother making apps for iPhone at all. Not like Apple helped us make money we never would have ... oh wait, what? How does this business work?!
Sorry, bushido to single you out, But Defthand needed an example, and here you were.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
you do know that ITC is will not make a final determination until next summer at best and even then they might not ban imports.
Shameful
Today neither Apple nor Amazon won.
Today the consumers lost. Simple as that. I love Apple products, but I'm not defending them here.
Today neither Apple nor Amazon won.
Today the consumers lost. Simple as that. I love Apple products, but I'm not defending them here.
The core of the issue is that Apple wants to pull more business into its own sales channel (the iTunes store) and restrict the competition with other channels (like direct web purchases from the content provider). Apple has every right to take a cut for in-app purchases that go through the iTunes store (essentially they provide charging services). What they should not have done IMO is to dictate that content providers cannot sell their content for higher prices through iTunes than elsewhere. This is anti-competitive. Allow them to charge a little more for in-app purchases to compensate for Apple's cut if they want, and then let the customer decide whether the convenience of an in-app purchase is worth a surcharge.
Of course. You can buy Kindle books through the Amazon shopping app. 😉
Big deal
Where <I> "get the notion that Apple is providing Amazon with customers" is from me. I saw the Kindle app and liked it. So I started buying books.
No one claims that Amazon business is so terribly dependent on Apple. BUT where it IS directly dependent (bought from the app), they would like to share in the transaction. Amazon says no. Okay. So we go to the web site. Both Apple and Amazon seem to look after their financial interests -- and their customers -- pretty well. Why is the button (which, in fact, I never used -- always browsed) such a big deal?
Where <I> "get the notion that Apple is providing Amazon with customers" is from me. I saw the Kindle app and liked it. So I started buying books.
No one claims that Amazon business is so terribly dependent on Apple. BUT where it IS directly dependent (bought from the app), they would like to share in the transaction. Amazon says no. Okay. So we go to the web site. Both Apple and Amazon seem to look after their financial interests -- and their customers -- pretty well. Why is the button (which, in fact, I never used -- always browsed) such a big deal?
Popeye206
macrumors 68040
ROFL!!!! OMG.... you're kidding right? Google, MS and Cisco???? Really? They don't try and maximize their profits? ROFL!
That is sooooo funny!
